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Colorado Senate: Udall 47% Schaffer 43%
Rasmussen Reports ^ | July 22, 2008

Posted on 07/22/2008 5:56:54 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued

Democrat Mark Udall is still narrowly ahead of Republican Bob Schaffer in the race to become Colorado’s next United States Senator. The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey in the state finds Udall up 47% to 43% this month. When “leaners” are included, it’s a three-point advantage for the Democrat, 49% to 46%.

Last month, Rep. Udall enjoyed a nine-point lead over Shaffer. In May, he led by six. Prior to May, the race had been essentially even.

Udall and Schaffer are competing for the right to replace Republican Senator Wayne Allard.

(Excerpt) Read more at rasmussenreports.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: 110th; co2008; electioncongress; electionussenate; shaffer; udall
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1 posted on 07/22/2008 5:56:54 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued
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To: fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; Kuksool; Norman Bates; LdSentinal; justiceseeker93; ...

Good news- Bob Schaffer is closing the gap!


2 posted on 07/22/2008 5:58:18 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (If Islam conquers the world, the Earth will be at peace because the human race will be killed off.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

If we could win here it would be a welcome dodge of the bullet. It would also offset the rather unbelievable looming loss of Alaska (what a freaking shame).


3 posted on 07/22/2008 6:00:07 PM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: Clintonfatigued
The people of my state want to elect another liberal idiot to the Senate!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

4 posted on 07/22/2008 6:00:07 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Norman Bates

It ain’t gonna offset the staggering losses elsewhere. We’re not leading against any incumbent Democrat in a Senate race anywhere. :-\


5 posted on 07/22/2008 6:03:19 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: Clintonfatigued

i’m really tired of relatives of politicians in public offices.

i’m not voting again for the wife, son, daughter of a previous office holder.

i don’t care what party they belong to.


6 posted on 07/22/2008 6:03:48 PM PDT by ken21 (people die and you never hear from them again.)
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To: ken21

I agree with that. I also am tired of RINOs running for President(especially McLame) or any office claiming to be the heir of the Reagan revolution.


7 posted on 07/22/2008 6:06:58 PM PDT by johna61
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To: Clintonfatigued

But I get the impression from listening to the MSM that the Democrats are going to win every open seat in the senate by 90%-10%. How can it be that close?


8 posted on 07/22/2008 6:07:33 PM PDT by Russ (Repeal the 17th amendment)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

I know but give it some time. After labor day I expect all the liberal past votes that will be swirling around Obama are going to hurt those near him. Look for pickups in LA, maybe even NJ (Lautenberg is beyond ancient). I’m confident we’ll hol ME, MN, OR - so already we are dodging the bullets in those races. If McCain gets his traction back in MA with some campaigning (remember how he surged in the final days against Romney there), Kerry may slip into the marginal zone (though I”m not counting on that).


9 posted on 07/22/2008 6:08:46 PM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Unfortunately, Intrade puts the PROBABILITES for a Rat win at 77 to 21.

Perhaps there may be more potentially productive races for GOP efforts and resources.


10 posted on 07/22/2008 6:09:38 PM PDT by mdefranc (AT)
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To: johna61

McCain never claimed to be the heir of the Reagan Revolution but he certainly was a part of it.


11 posted on 07/22/2008 6:10:13 PM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: mdefranc

Who cares? What InTrade is not picking up is the tidal wave that’s coming to knock out Obama and anyone close to him after the conventions.


12 posted on 07/22/2008 6:11:16 PM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Both Udall and Obama are leading in CO by 3. The fates of both McCain and Schaeffer will be tied together. I don’t see how one can win CO without the other.


13 posted on 07/22/2008 6:14:12 PM PDT by yongin
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To: Russ
But I get the impression from listening to the MSM that the Democrats are going to win every open seat in the senate by 90%-10%. How can it be that close?

Like the way Gore won the election? LOL Media

14 posted on 07/22/2008 6:18:45 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U
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To: Norman Bates

The only poll showing McCain having strength in MA was Survey USA. Other polls showed MA as a lock for Obama.

Susan Collins will be fine. Gordon Smith will need divine intervention. OR is shifting into a mega San Francisco. Ditto for Norm Coleman. The same youth cult that supports Obama could end up voting for Al Franken.


15 posted on 07/22/2008 6:22:57 PM PDT by yongin
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To: Norman Bates

LA may end up a repeat now of last time, a 3rd narrow victory for Landrieu (albeit this time without the substantial vote fraud). NJ, unfortunately, Dick Zimmer is no longer a first tier challenger (he was a decade ago) and while he may break the 40s, I think Lautenberg will win once again — NJ has been the ultimate rope-a-dope state for Republicans since the ‘70s. Maine we’ll hold, true, and probably MN, but Smith slipped behind in Oregon against a guy with a name similar to a pubic weave. MA is totally out of reach. Kerry will probably win by no less than 30%.

As it stands today, we probably go from 49 to 42 in the Senate (losing AK, CO, MS, NH, NM, OR, & VA).


16 posted on 07/22/2008 6:23:45 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: yongin

Bush won CO in ‘04 as the ill-advised lightweight Pete Coors lost.


17 posted on 07/22/2008 6:24:50 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: johna61

Shaffer is no RINO.


18 posted on 07/22/2008 6:27:07 PM PDT by TFMcGuire (Either you are an American, or you are a liberal)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

“Bush won CO in ‘04 as the ill-advised lightweight Pete Coors lost”

Coors was the choice of the state Republican machine. We true conservatives wanted Bob Shaffer.


19 posted on 07/22/2008 6:28:37 PM PDT by TFMcGuire (Either you are an American, or you are a liberal)
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To: Norman Bates

“Who cares? What InTrade is not picking up is the tidal wave that’s coming to knock out Obama and anyone close to him after the conventions.” - Norman Bates

If you believe that, then bet the farm on McCain; you’ll make your everlasting fortune.


20 posted on 07/22/2008 6:30:31 PM PDT by mdefranc (AT)
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To: TFMcGuire

I know, I know. :-\


21 posted on 07/22/2008 6:55:13 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Out here in the west, the Udalls are like a bad case of the crabs. They’re all over the place and you can’t get rid of them.


22 posted on 07/22/2008 6:55:53 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer ("The End Is Near!" - Algore)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Mo Udall damned near killed the coal mine industry.


23 posted on 07/22/2008 7:04:02 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: fieldmarshaldj

I’ve never seen a poll with Smith behind.

This is so frustrating. We keep losing our grip in regions of this country. We are becoming platooned in the South and sinking everywhere. I don’t simply see it as an issue of conservatism. The entire party needs to be reenergized and retool a la the “New Republican Party” of 1975.


24 posted on 07/22/2008 7:05:39 PM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Hey the Club for Growth said Pete was Golden. (Yes that was pun.) :-P


25 posted on 07/22/2008 7:06:37 PM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

I certainly hope we’re not losing MS and that is a place where Obama’s liberalism can really hurt the downticket. And no I am intentionally ignoring the “conventional wisdom” of the special races. None of those races had anything close to the full story of Obama’s liberalism. But if Wicker loses I blame Barbour and Lott.


26 posted on 07/22/2008 7:08:51 PM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: mdefranc

The thought has crossed my mine. But I don’t see any point in being foolish about it. Elections are always crapshoots - I believe very much we will have the upper hand but you can never fully see the future.


27 posted on 07/22/2008 7:10:54 PM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: yongin

No, I agree about SurveyUSA, they had some funny polls. However it was true that McCain surged in the final days of the MA primary (S.T.) against Romney. Funny thing happens when Republicans actually campaign there. Their numbers go up...


28 posted on 07/22/2008 7:15:44 PM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: Norman Bates

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_senate_elections/oregon/election_2008_oregon_senate

Smith trailing.

What makes no sense is how the GOP allows a single-digit popularity rodent-run Congress get away unscathed. The rodents are the ones in control, not the GOP, and the public needs to be reminded of “PelosiReid” and the high gas prices every moment of the day.

For them to be gaining in such an environment would be like during Watergate the GOP winning landslide numbers. It’s insane.


29 posted on 07/22/2008 7:22:02 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: Norman Bates

Lott created the domino effect, Barbour had to deal that was dropped in his lap. Problem is that Wicker was just about the weakest choice for us. Chip Pickering and Amy Tuck were the two top choices for the seat, but both took a pass. Pickering is apparently fed up with Congress.


30 posted on 07/22/2008 7:24:25 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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31 posted on 07/22/2008 7:25:59 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Looks like Smith may be the last Republican to hold statewide office. What will it take to get these states competitive again.

The more I think of it Washington was right - these political parties and the tides one way or another they move are a big mistake. It no longer becomes about character it becomes about feelings, climate, and party.


32 posted on 07/22/2008 7:28:07 PM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: yongin
Both Udall and Obama are leading in CO by 3. The fates of both McCain and Schaeffer will be tied together. I don’t see how one can win CO without the other.

I can see it going either way (one or the other wins or both win or both lose). Romney got the GOP vote here in the caucus, so if he's chosen as VP, maybe that might tip the balance in McCain's favor. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colorado_Republican_caucuses,_2008 forvote totals.

Udall really needs to put more into ads if possible. I see Schaeffer ads slamming Udall all the time, but honestly cannot think of any from Udall. I've also seen many more Schaeffer signs than Udall signs, fwiw.

33 posted on 07/22/2008 7:46:10 PM PDT by mountainbunny
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To: Norman Bates

Smith is a RINO in a state with a bankrupt GOP. He’s not going to hold the seat.


34 posted on 07/22/2008 7:48:59 PM PDT by darkangel82 (If you're not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. (Say no to RINOs))
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To: mountainbunny

Sorry. Please reverse the names in the Schaeffer/Udall race post. I have a terrible headache and spaced on it for a moment.
Goodness.

It should have read:

Schaeffer really needs to put more into ads if possible. I see Udall ads slamming Schaeffer all the time, but honestly cannot think of any from Schaeffer. I’ve also seen many more Udall signs than Schaeffer signs, fwiw.


35 posted on 07/22/2008 7:52:37 PM PDT by mountainbunny
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To: darkangel82

So? How prosperous are the democrat parties in the South? Yet if it is to be believed they are on the verge of taking MS, maybe NC. Why is a disorganized party a disadvantage to a group who in life epitomize in general organization? I keep hearing these rumors so and so killed his state GOP. Well why hasn’t Granholm, Patrick, Spitzer, McGreevy et al. not destroyed their own state party? They are miserable by any standard.


36 posted on 07/22/2008 7:57:17 PM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: Norman Bates

It helps that Patrick and Spitzer live in de facto one-party states.


37 posted on 07/22/2008 7:59:43 PM PDT by darkangel82 (If you're not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. (Say no to RINOs))
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To: Clintonfatigued

We could win this one. It’s one of the few races that keeps me interested this year. Schaffer will be a great senator. How great? John McCain and Barak Obama will both hate him because he’s not a go-along-to-get-along guy.

If we’re this close after the millions of $$ that have already been spent trashing Schaffer, I’d say our chances are better than 50/50. The general public in CO does not yet know what a lunatic Udall is. His voting record is hilarious—every liberal loony cliche, he has voted for. That will come out in ads closer to the election. We’ll be able to push his negatives way up.

Everyone who reads this post should send him $100, today. He needs money badly.


38 posted on 07/22/2008 8:05:02 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: darkangel82

Where’s our one party states? Even allegedly right states like Wyoming and Montana elect those Obama-loving stooges gubner.


39 posted on 07/22/2008 8:05:43 PM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: Norman Bates

{Well why hasn’t Granholm, Patrick, Spitzer, McGreevy et al. not destroyed their own state party? They are miserable by any standard.}

Don’t forget to add the Dem Governors of IL, ME, and OR to that list. Their approval ratings are worse than Bush. However, these Dem Governors have been successful at point the finger at Bush. The only way for the GOP to make a rebound in the states you mentioned would be for the Dems to have absolute power in every level of Govt and a serious economic recession to occur. The question is it safe to even let the Moonbats to have absolute power even for a couple of years?


40 posted on 07/22/2008 8:06:05 PM PDT by yongin
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To: ModelBreaker

I’ll consider sending him something then. I can’t say it will be $100 because I need the money too (LOL).


41 posted on 07/22/2008 8:06:49 PM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: yongin

It struck me - what you said. I think the fundamental problem is the nature of conservatism. It’s the relucttance of good and decent and capable men and women from tossing their hats into the ring. While liberals have a more activist streak. The problem is we start all these races as non-starters. Right now someone in the RNC with a brain should be looking at recruiting well-tuned persons to run against these clowns, especially when you have one of the corrupt idiocy of Blagojevich or Canadian Granholm.


42 posted on 07/22/2008 8:13:01 PM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: Clintonfatigued

There is no question that the Senate races will be a war this time. We have more seats to defend and several that might flip.


43 posted on 07/22/2008 8:16:45 PM PDT by DemonDeac
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To: Norman Bates
I certainly hope we’re not losing MS and that is a place where Obama’s liberalism can really hurt the downticket.

Actually, it's McCain's liberalism that will kill the R downticket. A small percent of Conservatives will stay home because of McCain. Not me. I'll hold my nose, pray for forgiveness, and vote for him. A larger percent will not walk precincts because of McCain. That includes me. About the only sign going in my yard this year would be a sign that said "Voting Against Obama." I really can't bring myself to say I am "for" John McCain. Mainly because I'm not.

Lecture all you want. I probably agree with you that McCain is less damaging by a hair and that's why I'll vote for him. But that won't change that 1-3% of conservatives who just can't bring themselves to pull the lever for a democrat and stay home. A good portion of McCain's independents will vote D downticket.

Thus, McCain is and has always been the predictable kiss of death for the R down ticket for that reason. It's all about John and always has been.

OTOH, Obama is going to turn out a huge black vote and the adoring college Bambi's who like, think he's awesome and will, like, bring world peace and hope. That is going to swing some down ticket elections. BO will lose the south. But he will take some down ticket seats for the bad guys there because of the black vote.

So it's a double whammy this year. Ain't gonna be pretty.

44 posted on 07/22/2008 8:18:49 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: Norman Bates

Conservatives need to be honest with themselves on what works and what does not work. Simply repeating Reagan’s speeches won’t cut it. The Country that elected Reagan and the circumstances that aided no longer exist in America. Reagan won the West Coast, Upper Midwest, and New England not because of social issues like abortion, Creationism, and school prayer. The Country during 1980 was disillusioned with Carter’s failures with foreign policy. The Reagan Dems (blue collar Eastern Euro immigrants) wanted someone tough against Communism. Reagan fitted the bill. When Communism fell in the early 1990’s, the Reagan Dems went back to being just Dems. Thus the Reagan Coalition isn’t coming back. The Conservatives need to find new ideas to appeal to the new generation of voters.


45 posted on 07/22/2008 8:32:15 PM PDT by yongin
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Someone hit the nail on the head. To ignorant voters congress=federal gov federal gov=Bush.


46 posted on 07/22/2008 8:33:27 PM PDT by Impy (Spellcheck hates Obama, you should too.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

I don’t think we’ve ever failed to pick up a rat seat in consecutive cycle’s before.


47 posted on 07/22/2008 8:38:50 PM PDT by Impy (Spellcheck hates Obama, you should too.)
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To: ModelBreaker

What a dismal view you have. I don’t see McCain as the problem b/c we’d be in the same place if Romney or someone else were at the top. It’s the climate.


48 posted on 07/22/2008 8:59:33 PM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: yongin

I like your comments. There’s certainly something there to take in.

“The Conservatives need to find new ideas to appeal to the new generation of voters.”

Energy independence, exploration, refineries, nuclear power. Tt’s a start, as they say.


49 posted on 07/22/2008 9:02:08 PM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: Impy; Norman Bates; Clemenza; AuH2ORepublican; Clintonfatigued

Going two cycles would be without precedence in the era of popularly-elected Senators (I double-checked that, even in the midst of the horrific year of 1936, we took an open Dem seat — in Massachusetts, and 1964 in CA, 1974 in NV, etc).


50 posted on 07/22/2008 9:06:34 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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