Posted on 07/22/2008 6:16:58 PM PDT by AnnGora
Just started watching Larry King for a lark. There are no larks on the show, but the harridan, Joy Behar, is hostessing. Her guests are three liberals and one supposed conservative, Ben Stein. First question: How did Obama do on his Tour of Iraq? The question goes to Ben Stein who falls all over himself praising Obama, gushing how wonderful and masterful he is, and ending up drooling over how Obama is the best he has ever seen in his lifetime. Naturally, the panel of libs agreed immediately and offered Stein free membership in the club.
With conservatives like these representing us, we are sunk. On the other hand, maybe these psuedo conservatives are finally being exposed for what they really are, so it's a good thing.
Well, that’s an improvement!
I've disconnected far enough I don't even know if you're talking radio, teevee or cable.
Who or what is Larry King?
Speaking of dementia, I go over to my mom’s frequently and she’ll have on the View. I tell her they’re all a bunch of liberal Bush bashers (except for little Elizabeth), yet my mom says “no”, they would never speak against the President, etc.
God only knows how many other elderly people have their TVs turned to that program and don’t seem to know what is being said. I hope my mom is in the minority, but I fear a lot of people watch that show and just listen to the so called entertainment and guests without picking up on how vitriolic these witches really are.
Also, I’m disappointed to hear Ben Stein falling all over the Messiah’s overseas travel. I thought he was one of the good guys.
You are charming in your innocence. It’s better you stay that way. However, if you must know who Larry King is, ask your grandmother.
That is my point. Stein is always there as the token conservative, but when he opens his mouth, it’s just another RINO, pawing the ground to be noticed and liked by the libs.
And here I thought the definition was someone who agreed with me 100% of the time!!
Pshaw
When we are children, we base our decisions based on emotion. In our middle life, survival requires us to make good choices based on facts. After retirement. many revert to emotion. My in-laws vote straight line Democrat because “Democrats are for the working man and Republicans are for the rich.” It doesn’t matter that they are pro-life, pro-gun, pro-military, anti-tax people on earth.
You tell me.
Ahhh...I asked for a definition of "real" conservative. What you've defined (hopefully in jest/sarcasm per your smiley) is an automaton.
JMO, but the campaign directors are a big part of the current political climate.
There hasn’t been a true conservative running a national campaign since Lee Atwater passed away. Nowadays, they all sound the same. Who they back depends on who’s paying the most.
I would just like to see a conservative not apologize for being conservative. Even Atwater apologized later on for being “too mean.”
There was a little sarcasm, but it seems that’s the going definition in this house. Conservatism is a useful philosophy. As a philosophy is can only guide toward a general principle. True conservatives can not legislate, however, for legislation requires the persuasion of a thin majority of equally dogmatic fellows. Quite a task. The first to assent can no longer wear the mantle of “true conservative”. (The 100% rule.)
Ben Stein is all over the map, he did the movie Expelled but is also a big Al Franken supporter. It's not really that surprising he supports Obama.
What a coincidence. So is John McCain.
Although good in literary terms, Stein is not a conservative. Even though his economist father was not conservative, he would be ashamed of his son.
Ben Stein is a guy only the Discovery Institute could love.
Shunned by many so-called conservatives also.
Well stated, and I completely agree with your points.
A conservative is someone who agrees with me 100% of the time. There is no room for any equivocation. Not 90%, not 98%, but 100% always, all the time, forever. If not, they are not a conservative.
This is precisely the reason the dogmatic left and right wings of the political spectrum tend to lose far more elections than they win. It's also why the broad spectrum between the two wings often seem to be "Republicrats," or "Demicans," or "RINOs," or "DINOs," etc., depending on the perspective of the person throwing around such useless labels.
I am a true conservative: a reactionary who supports the traditions and institutions of pre-Revolutionary, pre-”enlightenment” European Christian culture.
As did the great Joseph DeMaistre, I hold that only governments founded on the Christian constitution, implicit in the customs and institutions of all European societies but especially in that of Catholic European monarchies, can avoid the disorder and bloodletting that follow all rationalist political programs, such as that of the 1789 revolution. I am a believer in the principle of established authority, which the Revolution sought to destroy.
I am opposed to ideology, utopianism, or other attempts to perfect Man or achieve “heaven on Earth” through secular means.
I defend the traditional order of Western civilization (including the major role of the Catholic Church) and oppose democratic and republican ideas and institutions. I advocate the natural Christian family as the cell of society and the best form of government, outside of which I support an authoritarian, explicitly Christian State for each nation — a State limited only to those functions ordained to it by God. I vehemently oppose fascism, state capitalism, socialism, and other forms of idolatry.
I oppose unlimited corporate capitalism and state socialism alike. I support private enterprise on the smallest possible scale — the family business — and hold that a medieval, Distributist economic system is both the most natural and the most just.
I support the right of ethnic and cultural groups to self-determination, but I oppose hatred based solely upon ethnic or cultural differences.
I recognize the natural law and the natural hierarchy of power (God -> Prince -> Aristocracy –> Individual); I oppose the legal idea of positivism and the idea of popular sovereignty.
In short: as a conservative, I believe in the traditional pillars of Western civilization: Altar (the Church) and Throne (the Monarchy) and I oppose the false, Revolutionary gods of unlimited Individual Liberty and Materialist Reason. I hold Duty, Piety, and Family to be superior to Liberty, Equality, and Fraternity; and God above all.
Sadly, both grandmothers are long since gone.
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