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Obama, Afghanistan & NATO... taking "our eye off the ball"
Flopping Aces ^ | 07-22-008 | Mataharley

Posted on 07/22/2008 6:35:28 PM PDT by Starman417

To add some facts and historic timeline to the debate going on in the Obama Abandons Commitment to Iraq" thread.

Scott responded to the oft repeated statement, taking "our eye off the ball", that is one of Obama's mainstays:

However, Sen Obama’s “we took our eye off the ball” schtick is a lie. It’s a deliberate distortion of the truth; a deliberate misleading of Americans…

Indeed it is an outright lie. And one that personally makes me break out in laughter everytime Obama parrots his regular speech talking point. We did not take our "eye off the ball". Rather we turned over those eyes to NATO and the UN... just as the DNC screams we do at every opportunity.

So I can only construe BHO's "off the ball" statement means he distrusts using the int'l coalition under a NATO command. If that's the case, it might be one of the only things on which I agree with the jr Senator.

Instead the hypocrisy of the left is breathtaking. Per BHO's speech July 15th on Iraq and National Security:

Imagine, for a moment, what we could have done in those days, and months, and years after 9/11.

We could have deployed the full force of American power to hunt down and destroy Osama bin Laden, al Qaeda, the Taliban, and all of the terrorists responsible for 9/11, while supporting real security in Afghanistan.

Can we assume from this that BHO finds no need to work with the int'l framework of NATO and the UN, and prefers the unilateral approach his party so demonizes?

And about that Afghanistan escalation that he says JSM has not advocated... if not an outright lie, it is nothing less than a misleading and sleazy twist of truth. Troop levels in Afghanistan is an old story.

NATO has been screaming for more troops since fall of 2006, when they were unable to get the NATO members to kick in as few as 2500 reinforcement troops. John Kerry did the "blame Bush" trip, calling it a failure to lead, and suggesting the US send in 5000 troops.

McCain was atop the story. However he was also very conscious that it was an int'l effort, and recognized the message an increased US soldier footprint would send to the world. This was an era when Iraq was undergoing increased violence, and the US was under daily media assault. In Dec 2006, he said:

Asked if the U.S. would send more troops to Afghanistan, McCain responded, "The British have said that they will be sending additional troops, taking troops out of Iraq and into Afghanistan.

"If it's necessary, we will, and I'm sure we would be agreeable, but the focus here is more on training the Afghan National Army and the police, as opposed to the increased U.S. troop presence."

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Praising Afghan, U.S., Canadian, British and Dutch forces for bearing "a great deal of the combat responsibilities in recent months," McCain criticized other European allies for not sending their troops where they are more urgently needed.

Other NATO countries with troops in Afghanistan should remove their "national caveats," which make it "extremely difficult for our NATO commanders to call on them for assistance when needed in combat zones, particularly in the southern part of the country," McCain, a 2008 presidential hopeful, said at the U.S. base Camp Eggers in Kabul during a two-day visit in Afghanistan with three other U.S. Congress members.

While McCain was not averse to sending needed troops, he took the route of trying to hold the int'l community's feet to the fire. Certainly we did not need another conflict that appeared to be UN-led or unilateral.

And at the same time, what was Obama doing? Did he visit his "central front in the war on terror"? No... he visited Iraq, and never set foot in Afghanistan. He used his public voice to promote withdrawal from Iraq, starting in 2007 (pre Surge, and *before* the Iraq government wanted such a withdrawal), and suggested we instead send the troops to Afghanistan. Nary a word about the NATO membership's lack of commitment, and not one thought about how such an increased UN presence would look to the int'l community.

Even per his then in existence presidential candidate website, with a statement dated Nov 2006, he said:

By redeploying from Iraq to Afghanistan, we will answer NATO's call for more troops and provide a much-needed boost to this critical fight against terrorism.

Hang... why bother with NATO at all then? If we're going to be such a supermajority in troops there, then our troops should be under US commanders for the entire theatre.. not NATO.

What adds to the irony is the pesky fact that BHO chairs the subcommittee on European Affairs, which oversees United States - N.A.T.O. relations.... you know, the one that's never met? While Afghanistan itself falls under the Senate Foreign Relations committee, BHO most certainly could have held meetings on NATOs role in that conflict. And certainly, if they were not fulfilling troop obligations, Obama most certainly could, and should have, addressed the problem of a reluctant NATO membership in Afghanistan's plight instead of volunteering up more US forces without knowing how a larger US footprint in that arena would play in the world's view.

Obama was bailed out on this ugly detail by none other than Joe Biden just this month. The NYTs printed a letter from Biden to Sen. Jim DeMint (R-SC), after DeMint expressed his opinions publicly about Obama's failure to address the Afghanistan plight using his subcommittee.

Senator Obama has notified me of your interest in holding a hearing on NATO’s mission in Afghanistan at the Subcommittee level during the brief period of session between the end of Congressional summer recess and expected adjournment in late September. I thank you for your interest in this vital issue.

As you are aware, under my Chairmanship the Foreign Relations Committee has addressed most Afghanistan issues at the Full Committee level. I believe that this is the best way of ensuring the most comprehensive examination of the complex issues involved, and of ensuring the highest-level Administration participation.

On the particular issue of NATO’s mission in Afghanistan, we have held three Full Committee hearings in the last 22 months: one under Senator Lugar’s chairmanship (September 21, 2006: “From Coalition to ISAF Command in Afghanistan: The Purpose and Impact of the Transition”), and two under mine (March 8, 2007: “Afghanistan: Time for a New Strategy?” and January 21, 2008: “Afghanistan: A Plan to Turn the Tide?”).

Biden's letter has turned to bite not only himself, but Obama in their political rear ends. First, his own questionable intervention on BHO's behalf (*after* Obama "notified" him), smells politically expedient coming after his own failed run for the Oval Office, and as he is under scrutiny as a possible Veep.

For Obama's rear end, it was criticism of BHO himself, found on Biden's own campaign, that reveals the letter was more politically expedient and ambitious than truthfrul. Again from The Caucus, the NYTs blog:

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; foreignpolicy; nato; obama; obamasbigadventure; terror

1 posted on 07/22/2008 6:35:28 PM PDT by Starman417
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To: Starman417

Obomba is a loser puke.

Can anybody help me stop shanking the golf ball?


2 posted on 07/22/2008 6:40:40 PM PDT by shankbear (Al-Qaeda grew while Monica blew)
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To: Starman417
Obe will show us the smarter way to take our eye off the ball.
3 posted on 07/22/2008 6:41:26 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Huma for co-president! (it ain't over 'til it's over))
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To: Starman417
McCain was atop the story.

That was when few were paying attention.

Now that there are more eyeballs, JR. is riding in a chopper next to Petraeus over Iraq and McCain is cruising in a golf cart @ 5 mph with Bush 41.

Somebody needs to wake up McCain from his summer long nap.

4 posted on 07/22/2008 6:42:44 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: Starman417

I think Je$$e Jack$on hasn’t taken his eyes off Obama’s balls.


5 posted on 07/22/2008 6:47:30 PM PDT by kickonly88
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6 posted on 07/22/2008 6:50:32 PM PDT by Flavius (war gives peace its security)
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