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McCain vs. Muslim Radicals--A McCain spokesman tells the truth; Muslims demand apologies.
Frontpagemagazine ^ | 7-23-08 | Robert Spencer

Posted on 07/23/2008 7:14:14 AM PDT by SJackson

Muslim spokesmen in the U.S. are outraged over remarks made last Friday by Bud Day, a key supporter of John McCain. Day, a much-decorated Air Force Colonel and Medal of Honor recipient who was a prisoner of war in Vietnam with McCain, said during a conference call organized by the Florida Republican Party that “the Muslims have said either we kneel, or they’re going to kill us.” Day added: “I don’t intend to kneel, and I don’t advocate to anybody that we kneel, and John doesn’t advocate to anybody that we kneel.”

The reaction was swift. Saif Ishoof, president of the Center for Voter Advocacy, said that Day’s remarks were “perpetuating a form of Islamophobia.” Khaled Saffuri, the Executive Director of the Islamic Institute (which he co-founded with Grover Norquist), was also deeply offended. “‘This is as close to racist as it gets,” he declared. “These are cheap street tactics. Even if this is called a mistake or a slip of the tongue, it shows a bigger problem with racism. McCain and the Republican party should denounce this.” (Keith Olbermann also termed Day’s words “racism and religious hatred,” although neither he nor Saffuri explained what race Islam is.)

Corey Saylor, national legislative director for the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), also called on McCain to distance himself from Day, stating that “CAIR would like to see Senator McCain come out and make a clear statement repudiating these remarks. We don’t believe they’re helpful at all in either putting out the campaign’s message or winning the hearts and minds in the Muslim world that America needs to be winning.”

However, a repudiation from McCain was not immediately forthcoming. McCain campaign spokesman Michael Goldfarb said only: “The threat we face is from radical Islamic extremism.” However, a spokeswoman for the Republican Party, according to the Miami Herald, “said later that Day acknowledged he misspoke and ‘made an unfortunate mistake’ because he meant to say ‘terrorists’ and not ‘Muslims.’ The Herald itself took for granted that Day had said something wrong, calling his remarks a “gaffe on Muslims.”

Unnoticed, however, in the controversy over Day’s remarks was the fact that what he said was essentially accurate. While it is certainly true that not all Muslims are trying to “make us kneel,” there can be no legitimate question whatsoever that there are indeed Muslims who are engaged in such an effort. The Muslim Brotherhood in the United States is, according to a Brotherhood operative, engaged in a “grand jihad” aimed at “eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and ‘sabotaging’ its miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated and God’s religion is made victorious over all other religions.”

What’s more, there is considerable reason to suspect that some of the Muslim leaders who have been most indignant over Day’s words are involved in this “grand jihad.” Investigative journalist Kenneth Timmerman wrote in 2004 of Khaled Saffuri’s considerable influence in Washington, and then noted that “some of the very people Saffuri introduced to Bush and Rove are in federal prison on terrorism-related charges. Others have been expelled from the country. Still other former colleagues and donors have become subjects of a massive federal probe into U.S. funding of terrorist organizations that is code-named Operation Greenquest….Saffuri’s ties to radical Islamists and apologists for terror are neither superficial nor coincidental.” And CAIR, of course, was in 2007 named an unindicted co-conspirator in the Holy Land Foundation Hamas terror funding case, and has had several of its officials arrested and convicted on terrorism-related charges.

Why was none of this been mentioned in mainstream media coverage of this story? It isn’t really surprising that it wasn’t, given the tendencies and perspectives of the mainstream media – indeed, it would have been more surprising if they had mentioned it. But Bud Day’s remarks should have been judged for their accuracy: are there, or are there not, Muslims trying to make us kneel? No one would have objected in 1944 if a military spokesman had said that “the Germans are trying to make us kneel,” and someone who took offense to such a statement on the grounds that not all Germans were pro-Nazi would only have been ridiculed. However, CAIR has shown in the past that the accuracy of statements to which it takes umbrage does nothing to mitigate their hurt feelings. And now the primacy of hurt feelings has been enshrined into law in Canada: as we have seen in the Mark Steyn trials in Canada, truth and accuracy is no defense against charges of “hate speech.” In a sane world, instead of taking offense, Islamic spokesmen in the U.S. would have been assuring reporters that they were working energetically within Muslim communities against those who wished to make non-Muslims kneel. But sanity is at a premium in the public debate on Islamic jihad today.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: budday; cair; mccain; mohammedanism; muslim; norquist; robertspencer; wot

1 posted on 07/23/2008 7:14:14 AM PDT by SJackson
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To: SJackson

I hope McCain doesn’t throw this hero under the bus the way he did with GRamm (sp?).


2 posted on 07/23/2008 7:16:12 AM PDT by MattinNJ (I can't sit this election out. Obama must be stopped.)
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To: SJackson

Don’t like what is going on in this country? They can go home......


3 posted on 07/23/2008 7:18:39 AM PDT by illiac (If we don't change directions soon, we'll get where we're going)
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To: SJackson

Gosh. Muzzies offended? When aren’t they whining?


4 posted on 07/23/2008 7:20:20 AM PDT by mgc1122
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To: SJackson

If McCain throws Colonel Day under the bus on this he will have lost my vote.


5 posted on 07/23/2008 7:20:22 AM PDT by proudmilitarymrs
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To: MattinNJ

I dont think he will. His speech has been strong regarding radicals. I had the pleasure of seeing him twice now...He is much better in person. Of course, the media does not give him much attention.


6 posted on 07/23/2008 7:20:47 AM PDT by mouse1 (a vote for mccain is a vote against obama)
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To: SJackson; AuntB

Well, finally, someone was caught with a bit of backbone! What is a crime is that as illegal immigrant supporters, they’ve allowed hundreds of OTA’s (Other than Mexican) to flood north across the border, “to do the work Americans won’t”. Glad to see that others have had a wake up call to an ugly future that needed action 20 years ago.


7 posted on 07/23/2008 7:21:07 AM PDT by Issaquahking ("What did you do for America today?")
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To: SJackson
Day added: “I don’t intend to kneel, and I don’t advocate to anybody that we kneel, and John doesn’t advocate to anybody that we kneel.”

Damn right, Colonel. I'm with you.
8 posted on 07/23/2008 7:26:47 AM PDT by JamesP81 (George Orwell's 1984 was a warning, not a suggestion)
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To: SJackson
Unnoticed, however, in the controversy over Day’s remarks was the fact that what he said was essentially accurate.

Oh yeah, that. Well, Muslims are commanded to conquer the "World of War" (the non-Muslim world), whether peacefully or by use of force.

Christians are called to convert the world as well, but never by use of force.

This obvious difference between the two religions seems to be too difficult for celebrators-of-diversity to grasp, largely because they have an a priori commitment to religious relativism.

9 posted on 07/23/2008 7:34:55 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: MattinNJ

I am sure he will. Instead, though, he should respond by quoting various contemporary Islamic luminaries on the subject, like that fellow in Iran.


10 posted on 07/23/2008 7:34:57 AM PDT by arthurus
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To: mouse1
I saw Dubya at a fundraiser a year or two ago. I was maybe 20 feet away from him. He was full of awesome. He called the terrorists murderers and thugs that don't understand negotiating and talks. He was on fire.I hadn't seen him like that since 2001.

I don't know what throws him off during a televised appearance. Maybe it's the cameras, maybe it's his speechwriters who tell him to knock off the "wanted dead or alive" lingo. Shame really. He would have much higher support among the populace if he was more natural-IMHO.

11 posted on 07/23/2008 7:42:51 AM PDT by MattinNJ (I can't sit this election out. Obama must be stopped.)
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To: SJackson
Muzzies offended???

GO BLOW IT OUT YOUR TURBINS!

...and now for news that MATTERS....

12 posted on 07/23/2008 7:44:36 AM PDT by NordP (PROUD AMERICAN and DOG-LOVING, INFIDEL)
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To: MattinNJ
That is SO TRUE!

Well said.

13 posted on 07/23/2008 7:45:24 AM PDT by NordP (PROUD AMERICAN and DOG-LOVING, INFIDEL)
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To: Aquinasfan
This obvious difference between the two religions seems to be too difficult for celebrators-of-diversity to grasp, largely because they have an a priori commitment to religious relativism.

I look at it like this: In Islam, god commands you to die while killing others for him. In Christianity, God sent His only begotten son to die for you.
14 posted on 07/23/2008 7:47:34 AM PDT by JamesP81 (George Orwell's 1984 was a warning, not a suggestion)
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To: SJackson
Hey, Saif Ishoof, Khaled Saffuri!!

We aren't kneeling to you or Muhammed or Allah. Go molest a piglet.

15 posted on 07/23/2008 7:49:51 AM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: proudmilitarymrs
However, a repudiation from McCain was not immediately forthcoming. McCain campaign spokesman Michael Goldfarb said only: “The threat we face is from radical Islamic extremism.” However, a spokeswoman for the Republican Party, according to the Miami Herald, “said later that Day acknowledged he misspoke and ‘made an unfortunate mistake’ because he meant to say ‘terrorists’ and not ‘Muslims.’ The Herald itself took for granted that Day had said something wrong, calling his remarks a “gaffe on Muslims.”

Looks like he already did. In the dead of night, out in the back 40, with the bus merely idling to hold down the noise. Day was right the first time, but McCain and his handlers went into damage control mode...again.

16 posted on 07/23/2008 7:54:57 AM PDT by TADSLOS (GOP legislators are now free to adapt the McCain Campaign Strategy of Liberalism for a vote)
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To: TADSLOS

And to everybody, I want to sincerely thank all of you, and freerepublic for this forum. I’ve lurked for years, and today decided to actually dive in and get involved. My earlier post was my first, I will gratefully welcome the advice of others if I break any posting policies,,,It would only be out of ignorance, not disrespect. Thank you all again.


17 posted on 07/23/2008 8:20:11 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs earn the title of "man's best friend", what title has islam earned from us?,)
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To: SJackson
I WANT YOU TO KNEEL!
. . . . . . KNEEL!"
18 posted on 07/23/2008 8:57:36 AM PDT by VU4G10 (Have You Forgotten?)
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To: SJackson

Bud Day for VP.


19 posted on 07/23/2008 9:00:32 AM PDT by seabreezelover (Ich bin ein Beginner Obama does, says or becomes whatever he thinks will get him elected President.)
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To: illiac
Don’t like what is going on in this country? They can go home......

Well, ... yeah, but they didn't come here to "go home." They came here, as Bud Day noted, to make us kneel. Extracting apologies for hard truths when spoken by others is part of their game plan. Get an apology and the "object of their affection" is suddenly on the defensive. Game, set, match.

20 posted on 07/23/2008 9:03:28 AM PDT by RobinOfKingston (Man, that's stupid ... even by congressional standards.)
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To: Issaquahking

It will be interesting to see how McCain handles this. He doesn’t want to offend any of his big donors and he’ll cozy up to Norquist, the muslim and illegal immigration advocate for the white house.

McCAIN AND THE KLA CONNECTION

George W. Bush has been taken out to the woodshed by the liberals for appearing on the stage at Bob Jones University – in this day and age, to even appear on a platform provided by a politically incorrect group or institution is enough to condemn a candidate to perdition. And the McCain campaign was quick to capitalize on it. But why isn’t McCain subjected to the same scrutiny? Please direct your attention to the photo below: the caption informs us that McCain is speaking at “a pro-Kosovo, pro-McCain rally across the street from his New York City hotel Friday morning, Feb. 11, 2000. McCain is in New York for the day to attend fundraisers and to talk to the press before returning to South Carolina Friday night.” But who is the man on the right, with the colorful KLA scarf and his big mouth wide open? The caption-writer is mute on this point, but to anyone who knows anything about New York’s ethnic politics, the face is all-too-familiar: it is none other than former Republican Congressman Joe DioGuardi, now the loquacious leader of the Albanian-American Civic League (AACL) – a group that not only actively represents the Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA) in America, but whose leader has become a spokesman for the most radical fringe elements of the KLA.

The McCain campaign must immediately release the figures, and give us some “straight talk” about the KLA-McCain connection: how much did they get-and in return for what? The American people have a right to know how many American soldiers will be put at risk in the Balkans in the service of paying off President McCain’s political debts.

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a38b7e6657eee.htm


21 posted on 07/23/2008 9:15:53 AM PDT by AuntB ( “During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.” - George Orwel)
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To: SJackson

Once again, I say that we will destroy ourselves from within by POLITICAL CORRECTNESS. And the Muslims and terrorists know this. They have taken a page from the liberals playbook and scream and holler that their feelings are hurt and shame people who disagree into becoming silent.

It’s magical. They don’t even have to eliminate the first ammendment. They just silence the majority throught political correctness intimidation. Anyone who speaks truth is labeled as a bigot, racist, homophobe, etc.

The dems have done it to the Republicans in Congress and the Jihadists are doing it to America....with the willing accomplices in the media and the Democrat party.

Unbelievable. And scary.


22 posted on 07/23/2008 9:30:07 AM PDT by Jerry Attrick
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To: SJackson

C’mon John. Show them what you’re made of. CAIR can stuff it. I don’t kneel either and I don’t and never will do Burkhas. I love being an infidel.


23 posted on 07/23/2008 9:36:29 AM PDT by SueRae
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To: mgc1122

If they ain’t bitchin, they aren’t alive.


24 posted on 07/23/2008 9:49:21 AM PDT by mathurine
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To: SJackson

The “Muslims” had an opportunity to distinguish themselves from the “terrorists”/”islamonazis” on September 12th. They did not and with the exception of a few lone individuals, have viciously defended any and every “Muslim” arrested in America for terrorist acts or ties. To use the term “Muslim” when he meant “terrorists” is not a misspeak. The two are synonomous.


25 posted on 07/23/2008 9:57:49 AM PDT by Tucson
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To: NordP

Thanks.


26 posted on 07/23/2008 10:18:48 AM PDT by MattinNJ (I can't sit this election out. Obama must be stopped.)
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To: AuntB
I doubt if John McCain is a party to other group, organization or party other than the American people. He has said nothing that would indicate that it is otherwise.
If it is a choice between Obama and McCain I will choose McCain every time.
27 posted on 07/23/2008 10:26:22 AM PDT by ANGGAPO (LayteGulf BeachClub)
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To: seabreezelover

“Bud Day for VP.”

Hell no! Cut out the middle man. BUD DAY FOR PRESIDENT


28 posted on 07/23/2008 10:28:41 AM PDT by hdstmf
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To: VU4G10

KNEELING isn’t enough.
Take a number and wait in the line over there. When your number is called, approach the messiah bowed 90 degrees at your waist. Spread your prayer rug and kneel before your savior. You are not to look upon or speak to the great one. Say your silent vows to the holy master and the church of the almighty democrats. You will be allowed 10 seconds to complete these rituals. Exceeding the time limits will require you to perform three hail Michelles. Now proceed to the line where you will cast a prepared ballot for your lord. Step to the next line where you will sign over all your worldly possessions to his holiness. Sign the form dedicating your children to the “Get whitey” jihad. Remove your shirt and place it in the reverent recycling bin. Sign the form directing electronic deposit of your repatrations check to Most Holy’s off-shore account. Move quickly and quietly to the exit where you will receive a voucher for 72 virgins of your sexual preference. Remember to pray 24 times daily on your rug facing the master’s throne.

Ok...sarc...sarc...sarc...


29 posted on 07/23/2008 10:36:31 AM PDT by hdstmf
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To: SJackson

“A repudiation from McCain was not immediately forthcoming.”

Just wait. McCain will be on his knees apologizing to the Muslim dogs and performing other disgusting acts for them. That’s the way he is.


30 posted on 07/23/2008 11:53:12 AM PDT by FFranco
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To: FFranco

If McQueeg isn’t busy pandering to the Mexicans then you can be sure he’s got his lips locked on the TROPers...


31 posted on 07/23/2008 11:57:40 AM PDT by Czar ( StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: JamesP81
I look at it like this: In Islam, god commands you to die while killing others for him. In Christianity, God sent His only begotten son to die for you.

Excellent summary!

32 posted on 07/24/2008 8:47:01 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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