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Bush at private event: ‘Wall Street got drunk’
MSNBC ^ | 7/23/2008 | Reuters

Posted on 07/23/2008 7:21:23 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA

WASHINGTON - President George W. Bush has an explanation for the housing-market meltdown that has thrown the global economy into turmoil: Wall Street got drunk.

“There’s no question about it. Wall Street got drunk,” Bush said at a private event in Houston on Friday. “It got drunk and now it’s got a hangover. The question is, how long will it sober up and not try to do all these fancy financial instruments?”

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KEYWORDS: bush; credit; iluminatii; newworldorder; thirdposting; wallstreet
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If they were druck, why are you bailing them out?
1 posted on 07/23/2008 7:21:24 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA
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To: Red in Blue PA

druck=drunk


2 posted on 07/23/2008 7:21:50 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Truth : Liberals :: Kryptonite : Superman)
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To: Red in Blue PA

I thought it was the Federal Reserve that was bailing them out.


3 posted on 07/23/2008 7:24:46 AM PDT by Perdogg
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To: Red in Blue PA

If I read an earlier account correctly, Bush apparently requested that microphones/video cameras be turned off. This was supposed to be off the record.


4 posted on 07/23/2008 7:25:18 AM PDT by Schnucki
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To: Red in Blue PA
Life isn't a morality play.

Men may "deserve" to fail, but then many men deserve nothing more than six feet of earth.

If they all got it tomorrow, the "elect" would be rather put out to replace their efforts. Since there would be oh, maybe 5000 human beings left alive.

5 posted on 07/23/2008 7:25:38 AM PDT by JasonC
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To: Schnucki

who cares either way? Although it might hurt his chances of being re elected, oh that’s right, he cannot run again, sorry forgot!


6 posted on 07/23/2008 7:26:45 AM PDT by Perdogg
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To: Red in Blue PA

It was just an analogy..duh!


7 posted on 07/23/2008 7:27:42 AM PDT by AmericanMade1776
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To: JasonC

I don’t understand what you said.


8 posted on 07/23/2008 7:28:03 AM PDT by Perdogg
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To: Schnucki

And here come the Bush apologists right on schedule!


9 posted on 07/23/2008 7:28:51 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Truth : Liberals :: Kryptonite : Superman)
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To: Red in Blue PA
Sometimes I wish politicians were honest. For example, it would be nice if Bush just came out and admitted that we needed a strong, growing economy in order to win the WoT; especially during the dark days following the collapse of Iraq.

The easiest, most expeditious way of growing an economy is loose money (ie inflation). Add to the pot millions of new 'immigrants', all in need of food, housing, transportation, etc, and you have the instant ingredients for growth.

Now that we have won in Iraq, it's time to both deflate the monetary bubble and send the illegals packing from whence they came.

10 posted on 07/23/2008 7:29:04 AM PDT by semantic
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To: JasonC

What exactly was your point with that????


11 posted on 07/23/2008 7:29:37 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Truth : Liberals :: Kryptonite : Superman)
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To: Perdogg

It’s just an annoying reminder that the press is constantly playing “gotcha” with President Bush while obama and other idiots get their comments airbrushed and retouched for public consumption.


12 posted on 07/23/2008 7:29:56 AM PDT by Schnucki
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To: Red in Blue PA

Maybe it is Bush that is drunk.


13 posted on 07/23/2008 7:31:17 AM PDT by MBB1984
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To: Red in Blue PA
If they were drunk, why are you bailing them out?

Exactly! He should be acting like a state trooper arresting an inebriated driver that is swerving all over the road near Kennebunkport, Maine; this president should not tolerate weak characters that cannot handle alcohol. No, oh, wait...

14 posted on 07/23/2008 7:31:44 AM PDT by meandog (please pray for future President McCain, day minus 160 and counting)))
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To: Red in Blue PA

?


15 posted on 07/23/2008 7:32:16 AM PDT by Schnucki
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To: Schnucki

I could just imagine your reaction (and others here too) if Obama as President asked people to turn off electronic devices so he could say things like this off the record.


16 posted on 07/23/2008 7:32:41 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Truth : Liberals :: Kryptonite : Superman)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Between the dot-coms of the 90’s and the subprime mess I’m sort of tired of an economy that seems to prefer making money out of nothing as opposed to producing real value.

Of course I’m just a tax paying chump.


17 posted on 07/23/2008 7:32:54 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: JasonC
Life isn't a morality play.

Men may "deserve" to fail, but then many men deserve nothing more than six feet of earth.

If they all got it tomorrow, the "elect" would be rather put out to replace their efforts. Since there would be oh, maybe 5000 human beings left alive.

Aere you druck drunk too?

18 posted on 07/23/2008 7:33:43 AM PDT by tx_eggman (Privatizing profits and socializing losses is no way to run an economy)
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To: tx_eggman
just damn ...

aere = are

19 posted on 07/23/2008 7:34:12 AM PDT by tx_eggman (Privatizing profits and socializing losses is no way to run an economy)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

I agree with you 100% and I know many others who do too.

I don’t know anyone (besides some people who post here) who think that loose money leading to speculative bubbles is a good thing.


20 posted on 07/23/2008 7:34:58 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Truth : Liberals :: Kryptonite : Superman)
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To: Red in Blue PA

5


21 posted on 07/23/2008 7:35:40 AM PDT by VaBthang4 ("He Who Watches Over Israel Will Neither Slumber Nor Sleep")
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To: Red in Blue PA
"The question is, how long will it sober up and not try to do all these fancy financial instruments?”

They'll keep that up until its illegal.

22 posted on 07/23/2008 7:37:42 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: Wolfie
Re: They'll keep that up until its illegal.
23 posted on 07/23/2008 7:39:41 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Truth : Liberals :: Kryptonite : Superman)
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To: JasonC
. . . but then many men deserve nothing more than six feet of earth.

Right. ANY man, or woman for that fact, that calls themselves liberals, dimocrats, socialists, communists, progressives, and homosexuals, seem to fit for me.

24 posted on 07/23/2008 7:41:14 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (Obama is the biggest threat too your freedom, liberties and pocket book since FDR.)
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To: Red in Blue PA
"Apologizing" for what? This is one of the few times I happen to agree with him.

You're just as knee-jerk as the people you're railing against.

25 posted on 07/23/2008 7:45:46 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Islam: Imagine a clown car.........with guns.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

26 posted on 07/23/2008 7:48:08 AM PDT by meandog (please pray for future President McCain, day minus 158 and counting)))
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To: Red in Blue PA
I could just imagine your reaction (and others here too) if Obama as President asked people to turn off electronic devices so he could say things like this off the record.

I'm not sure why you have transformed my comment into a conversation where I need to recant my vote for Bush or be pilloried.

I'm glad I voted for Bush both times and I still support him. I'd pick him over mccain any day. So come and get me. :p

I assume that "off the record" requests are made all the time for both sides. I also suspect, as I plainly implied, that it's respected less when the msm can snatch an opportunity to please folks who suffer from BDS by supplying gotchas even at this point in the "lame-duck" presidency. By BDS, I am referring to folks who frequent DU and many here at FR (apparently including you) as well.

27 posted on 07/23/2008 7:50:58 AM PDT by Schnucki
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To: Red in Blue PA

C’mon. At this point, the White House and the Fed are trying to avoid a further meltdown of the housing market and further defaults. Another 20% in the housing market would close many bank doors and clobber Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. At that point, we would have the worst depression in the history of the U.S.

Frankly, I don’t like the fact that borrowers went crazy speculating and lenders winked and gave them loans. BUT, I don’t want to crash the economy just so I can say “Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah.”

What SHOULD happen is that they should build additional prisons to house to kingpins in the subprime/ALT-A/Low doc lending fiasco.


28 posted on 07/23/2008 7:53:09 AM PDT by whitedog57
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To: Red in Blue PA
Politicians know if they can't get direct subsidies for their favored industries they can always funnel taxpayer money where they want by creating a crisis requiring another "Emergency Bailout".

Where was the oversight?

Can it be that everyone in the country except President Bush and every federal agency with oversight responsibility knew that lenders, realtors, appraisers, sellers and buyers had a multi-billion dollar scam going on for several years?

This happened because politicians wanted loose money to artificially pump up the economy and their friends in the financial business wanted huge profits.
And neither one cared about the ultimate outcome.

To the politicians and the profit takers it's no big deal.
Now that the last bit of profit has been scammed taxpayers can just pick up the tab for another humongous bailout. A few tokens will be prosecuted but the enablers within the government, and the well connected, large political contributors will walk away unscathed - as they always do.

This is just more wealth transfer on a large scale, like all the other bailouts we have had to finance over the years.

29 posted on 07/23/2008 7:54:28 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

I think it’s a good analogy. Do you really believe he expected them to turn the cameras off? I feel sure he knew they wouldn’t.


30 posted on 07/23/2008 7:56:26 AM PDT by bamagirl1944 (That's short for Alabama, not Obama)
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To: semantic
Now that we have won in Iraq, it's time to both deflate the monetary bubble and send the illegals packing from whence they came.

Sound fiscal policy? Deport criminal leaches on society? No way dude, what in the world will the communist democrats have to wail about before the election? You can not just willy-nilly go around messing with their victimhood justification, they will not have a thing to campaign on!

31 posted on 07/23/2008 7:58:57 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: whitedog57

When I lost money, I am forced to eat it. Why should others be bailed out simply because they made a bigger bad bet?

Makes. No. Sense.

And I am quite sure not what the Founding Fathers had in mind for the Federal govt.


32 posted on 07/23/2008 8:04:09 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Truth : Liberals :: Kryptonite : Superman)
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To: Schnucki
I'm not sure why you have transformed my comment into a conversation where I need to recant my vote for Bush or be pilloried.

Boy if that doesn't sum up so many of the threads I've seen on FR lately.

33 posted on 07/23/2008 8:07:02 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: Schnucki

Simply pointing out a logical inconsitency many of FR have.


34 posted on 07/23/2008 8:10:14 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Truth : Liberals :: Kryptonite : Superman)
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To: Schnucki
If I read an earlier account correctly, Bush apparently requested that microphones/video cameras be turned off. This was supposed to be off the record.

That worked so well for Jesse Jackson.

35 posted on 07/23/2008 8:17:21 AM PDT by TADSLOS (GOP legislators are now free to adapt the McCain Campaign Strategy of Liberalism for a vote)
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To: MBB1984

That was uncalled for and disrespectful.


36 posted on 07/23/2008 8:20:40 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: Iron Munro

Exactly. No politician was going to stop the party. I have said as much to many people who are astounded that no one tried to stop the real estate bubble

The real estate party was a magic money machine. We are as primitive as the New Guinea cargo cults


37 posted on 07/23/2008 8:27:11 AM PDT by dennisw (That Muhammad was a charlatan. Islam is a hoax, an imperialistic ideology, disguised as religion.)
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To: Schnucki
Bush could accidentally nuke Dallas, and some people would continue to support him and attempt to rationalize it.
38 posted on 07/23/2008 8:27:18 AM PDT by dragnet2
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To: Schnucki
Nothing said is "off the record" in public these days.

Bush should have known better, or he deliberately wanted his comments to be repeated.

sw

39 posted on 07/23/2008 8:33:30 AM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: dragnet2

In this day and age of the cell phone cameras, Bush would be sadly mistaken if he thought anything was off the record in a room full of people.

I have a camera with me 24/7, and I can capture up to eight hours of high-def 720p video with it. It’s a download and an eMail away from being public any time I like.

I’m not all that convinced that Bush really cared if this became public. He had the eagle eye perch up there, and must have seen the camera being held up to take the video.


40 posted on 07/23/2008 8:40:09 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Oh my coolaide has a fist name, it's B A R A K, my coolaide has a second name it's J U A N Y...)
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To: semantic

Oh please he is right on the money. But what I wish he would have said was - because we do not have a strong religious structure anymore , wr have allowed money to become our god therefore the obtaining of it has become the only goal for many - the ends justify the means. We need ethics back in business and we need to hold business and government accountable for their actions.


41 posted on 07/23/2008 8:44:02 AM PDT by Hildy (In success and in adversity, Tony Snow was a model of how a life should be lived. - Steve Forbes)
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To: Red in Blue PA
Wall street got drunk? No, Government got drunk and forced lenders, under the threat of lawsuit, to undertake poor lending practices in order for the deadbeat constituents of the left to become "homeowners".

I think that the republicans really want to give this country away. What a dolt.

42 posted on 07/23/2008 8:50:59 AM PDT by meyer (...by any means necessary.)
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That worked so well for Jesse Jackson.

That's a valid point. I can't resist wondering if that was staged, though, to benefit "the one". :)

43 posted on 07/23/2008 8:59:24 AM PDT by Schnucki
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To: dragnet2
Bush could accidentally nuke Dallas, and some people would continue to support him and attempt to rationalize it.

I agree. There are also those who will negate him no matter how good he has been for the country.

I don't operate on the understanding that any president is going to be omniscient or omnipotent, so I try to give some grace for decisions or actions that I don't agree with when I'm lucky enough to have a president in office who got my willing vote. I kind of see that as the give and take of politics for such a massive and powerful country.

Using that approach to temper my thinking, the only thing I really couldn't understand or justify at all with Bush was the amnesty for the illegals and that kind of broke my spirit.

44 posted on 07/23/2008 9:09:56 AM PDT by Schnucki
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To: spectre

Well, I’ve got to admit that you’re right on both points. Though there was a time when “off the record” mattered and was respected.


45 posted on 07/23/2008 9:14:33 AM PDT by Schnucki
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To: Red in Blue PA

No, Wall Street got Politically Correct. The lending institutions lowered the bar so that the “disenfranchised” could qualify for a home. I was not the least surprised by the disastrous outcome.


46 posted on 07/23/2008 9:14:52 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (When hopelessness replaces hope, it opens the door to evil.)
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To: ravingnutter
Re: That was uncalled for and disrespectful.
I hope you are referring to the bailouts instituted under Bush.
47 posted on 07/23/2008 9:24:59 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Truth : Liberals :: Kryptonite : Superman)
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To: TexasRepublic

Hate to inform you that some of the worst hit areas are also some of the highest priced areas.

But the blame the little guy refrain appears to be common here, not to mention popular.


48 posted on 07/23/2008 9:26:13 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Truth : Liberals :: Kryptonite : Superman)
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To: meandog
Unfortunately the government has no other choice than to bail out the lending institutions who bought up all of the bad loans. If they didn't back them up their default would hurt all of us. Perhaps they will find a way to prosecute the crooks that gamed the system to become millionaires.
49 posted on 07/23/2008 9:56:59 AM PDT by ANGGAPO (LayteGulf BeachClub)
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To: Red in Blue PA

No, I was referring to the the comment by the poster that “Maybe it is Bush that is drunk.” At least you have the decency to criticize his policy rather than throw out cheap-shot childish personal insults about the President as the other poster did.


50 posted on 07/23/2008 10:23:22 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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