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58 years later, records unsealed in Rosenberg spy case
CNN ^ | July 22, 2008 | Ronni Berke

Posted on 07/23/2008 12:52:25 PM PDT by K-oneTexas

58 years later, records unsealed in Rosenberg spy case
After 58 years, historians and journalists will have a chance to examine the secret grand jury testimony of witnesses in the espionage case against Julius and Ethel Rosenberg. The couple was investigated in 1950, tried in 1951 for conspiracy to commit espionage and convicted and sentenced to death in 1953. Cold War scholars are hoping the grand jury transcripts will shed light on some nagging questions about the case -- primarily, just how strong the case was against Ethel Rosenberg. The National Security Archive, the American Historical Association, the Georgetown University Law Center and others have petitioned to have the transcripts of 46 witnesses released to the public. In an unusual move, federal authorities have said that because of the historic significance of the case, they do not oppose releasing the transcripts of testimony from witnesses who have died or who do not object to their release. Of the 46 grand jury witnesses, 36 are either deceased or do not object to releasing the transcripts. Three others are thought to have died; four have not been located. In a partial ruling Tuesday, U.S. District Judge Alvin Hellerstein denied a request to release the testimony of three other witnesses, including one of the most controversial -- David Greenglass, Ethel Rosenberg's brother and a pivotal witness who testified against the couple....

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: coldwar; espionage; friendsofbarack; godsgravesglyphs; proliferation; rosenbergs; traitors; worldwar1; wwi

Book Review- The Brother: The Untold Story of the Rosenberg Case

1 posted on 07/23/2008 12:52:26 PM PDT by K-oneTexas
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To: K-oneTexas

Will the “progressives” be wearing black arm-bands this weeK?


2 posted on 07/23/2008 1:00:29 PM PDT by null and void (Barack Obama - International Man of Mystery...)
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To: K-oneTexas

IMPEACH Eisenhower!


3 posted on 07/23/2008 1:03:50 PM PDT by Coffee200am ("We should all be living in mud huts and riding bicycles to avoid killing the polar bears..."/s)
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To: K-oneTexas

Will be interesting to see what the info is that hung these two.
Thanks


4 posted on 07/23/2008 1:10:39 PM PDT by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: K-oneTexas
This is one of the lies in my new book, "48 Liberal Lies About American History," coming out in Sept., that the Rosenbergs were innocent.

They deserved every watt they got.

5 posted on 07/23/2008 1:12:16 PM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: K-oneTexas

Oh Wow, OK, our bad ... y’all come back, ya hear?


6 posted on 07/23/2008 1:18:19 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("What Our Enemies Couldn't Do Our Politicians Will")
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To: K-oneTexas
This crap again?

The Venona intercepts effectively proved Julius Rosenberg's guilt.

The case against Ethel Rosenberg is a bit murkier, but at the very least she was an accomplice after the fact.

7 posted on 07/23/2008 1:20:44 PM PDT by Knitebane (Happily Microsoft free since 1999.)
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To: K-oneTexas

Thanks for the link. I even had to turn the tv off to concentrate on it. Very good reading.


8 posted on 07/23/2008 1:20:55 PM PDT by blu (Last one out of Michigan, please turn off the lights.)
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To: LS

That won’t make a difference. They still are in the progressive martyr pantheon with ol’ Sacco and Vanzetti.


9 posted on 07/23/2008 1:22:21 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Knitebane

It appears that Ethel was a victim of family politics. If she just would have answered the question “Are you or were you ever a Communist” honestly, she might have lessened her punishment. But her brother didn’t have any trouble throwing her under the bus! Nice guy....


10 posted on 07/23/2008 1:24:16 PM PDT by blu (Last one out of Michigan, please turn off the lights.)
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To: K-oneTexas
58 years later, records unsealed in Rosenberg spy case

Here's a prediction:

1) The records will show Ethel and Julius were both guilty as sin.

2) This story on the opening of the records will therefore be the last we hear about the case in the moonbeam, er. mainstream media.

I guess there's one more possibility:

3) Hoping that few people will read the transcripts, the moonbeamers will publish stories directly contradicted by the unsealed records—alleging that the records show Ethel was an innocent bystander.

11 posted on 07/23/2008 1:31:53 PM PDT by SamuraiScot
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To: K-oneTexas
The way folks think today the Rosenberg's would get off with probation.
12 posted on 07/23/2008 1:35:39 PM PDT by Rappini ("Pro deo et Patria.)
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To: SamuraiScot
Here's my prediction:
13 posted on 07/23/2008 1:54:28 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Triage doesn't deal with people who successfully defend themselves with guns.)
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To: Rappini

They would more than likely be in line for a democratic nomination somewhere.


14 posted on 07/23/2008 2:00:47 PM PDT by healy61
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To: Tijeras_Slim

And Alger Hiss.


15 posted on 07/23/2008 2:06:06 PM PDT by Skooz (Property taxes are immoral)
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To: backhoe; Smokin' Joe

Ping.


16 posted on 07/23/2008 2:08:26 PM PDT by LucyT (What happens in Denver won't stay in Denver... August 25 - 28, 2008)
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To: blu

Ethel belonged under the bus, or in the electric chair.


17 posted on 07/23/2008 2:41:48 PM PDT by Carley
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To: K-oneTexas

May be the Rosenberge children will finally shut up, but I doubt it.


18 posted on 07/23/2008 2:58:23 PM PDT by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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To: Coffee200am
IMPEACH Eisenhower!

Believe it or not there is nothing preventing an ex-president from being impeached and removed from office.

I think the Slickmiester should be Impeached and Removed from Office. The public coffers could then be saved the cost of his retirement and SS coverage.

19 posted on 07/23/2008 3:22:08 PM PDT by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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To: Knitebane

You know, I was almost ready to post a reply to you saying you had mis-spelled the program name only to do some checking and find out that Venona was correct name of the program.


20 posted on 07/23/2008 3:57:48 PM PDT by ops33 (Senior Master Sergeant, USAF (Retired))
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21 posted on 07/24/2008 9:42:36 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_________________________Profile updated Friday, May 30, 2008)
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To: SunkenCiv; Knitebane

Precisely, when the NSA released some of the information from Venona a few years back, any doubt was gone.

http://www.nsa.gov/publications/publi00039.cfm
http://permanent.access.gpo.gov/lps33230/www.nsa.gov/docs/venona/monographs/monograph-1.html


22 posted on 07/24/2008 9:49:59 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: FredZarguna

Excellent exposition of current political “reality.” We think much alike. Protest folk songs about poor Julius and Ethel have probably already been written by the Usual Suspects.


23 posted on 07/24/2008 10:24:53 AM PDT by Bernard Marx
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To: FredZarguna

Most people who make predictions would be subject to the claim of “you’ve been watching too much TV.” But your predictions are so clear that the claim would be, “you’ve been studying too much history” or “you know too much — don’t be surprised if you become the next Salman Rushdie, perpetually hiding from liberals”.


24 posted on 07/24/2008 11:11:38 AM PDT by Kevmo (A person's a person, no matter how small. ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: K-oneTexas
From the book review:

The Left's project lay in ruins. Small wonder, Nozick concluded, that the crowd had booed Radosh and Milton: "The people present cannot face the possibility of wasted lives. The Rosenberg case . . . is their last cause."

Says a lot.
25 posted on 07/24/2008 11:15:02 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (His Negritude has made his negritude the central theme of this campaign)
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To: K-oneTexas

The ambulance will be waiting for Pete Seeger!


26 posted on 07/24/2008 11:20:22 AM PDT by Revolting cat! (Are you ready to pray for Teddy?)
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To: healy61

I have to agree with you.


27 posted on 07/24/2008 11:42:26 AM PDT by Rappini ("Pro deo et Patria.)
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To: K-oneTexas

Ethel was at least guilty of pillow talk.


28 posted on 07/24/2008 11:48:31 AM PDT by happygrl
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To: K-oneTexas
The KGB files that were accessed after the Soviets fell say that they were guilty beyond any shadow of doubt.
29 posted on 07/24/2008 12:04:42 PM PDT by fella ("...He that followeth after vain persons shall have poverty enough." Pv.28:19')
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To: K-oneTexas


"Progressive" has always been a code work for Commie

INFAMOUS SELF-DESCRIBED "PROGRESSIVES"

JULIUS AND ETHEL ROSENBERG

CONVICTED & EXECUTED AS SOVIET SPIES


30 posted on 07/24/2008 9:41:07 PM PDT by Cincinna
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To: K-oneTexas

The long opened (cracked) venora files that the Soviets used with them long proves them as guilty.

Guilty as possibly can be. Though, I guess only a ‘progressive’ in modern terms, with handing over military secrets to current enemies.


31 posted on 07/24/2008 9:46:40 PM PDT by MartinStyles
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To: FredZarguna

“Eventually, the Rosenbergs will be acknowledged as people who made a bad decision, but were ultimately victims of a crazed witch-hunt in an irrational time in American History.”

.... and in 2015, the Obama administration will construct “The Rosenberg Monument” in Washington to commemorate all those victimized in the “witch hunts” of the early 1950’s....

- John


32 posted on 07/25/2008 8:01:35 AM PDT by Fishrrman
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To: Rappini
The way folks think today the Rosenberg's would get off with probation.

Or without being charged at all such as Hanoi Jane and "I met with our enemies while in uniform," J F'ing Kerry.

33 posted on 07/25/2008 8:21:30 AM PDT by saminfl (,/i)
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