Posted on 07/23/2008 3:45:30 PM PDT by Coffee200am
North Carolina sheriff's deputies left the children of an arrested illegal immigrant woman on the side of a highway overnight stranded in a car, attorneys say.
Lawyers for Maria Chavira Ventura say she was stopped June 14 for a traffic violation along Interstate 85 in Alamance County, N.C. Deputies arrested her for driving without a license, leaving her three children, ages 14, 10 and 6, alone in the car with a man they barely knew, the Raleigh (N.C.) News & Observer reported Wednesday.
The man, a church acquaintance who was catching a ride with Ventura, abandoned the children in the car, where they stayed for eight hours before their father, also an illegal immigrant, arrived to rescue them, the newspaper said.
Lawyers with the North Carolina Justice Center told the News & Observer they are investigating the incident. Sheriff's Department officials said they handled Ventura's arrest according to their policies.
Sad that she put her children in that predicament. Pretty pathetic mother.
Mom picks bad friends.
If ONLY the whole family had stayed in the same country as where their documents are located. When will they ever learn: STAY WITH YOUR DOCUMENTS!!
Don’t care what she was doing wrong or what her status is. There’s no excuse for leaving kids like that with some stranger. Generally, when someone is arrested and there isn’t a family member there, don’t they put the kids into foster care or protective custody of some sort? Anyone with any common decency - ‘protocol’ or not, would have made sure the kids were safe.
Cops missed one there. Protecting life and property is supposed to be a big value thing for LE. I don't care who's children they are.
/johnny
Lessons for Mom:
(1) don’t live in countries where you are not a legal resident or citizen, especially with your 3 children
(2) don’t give rides to strangers with your children in the car - especially the kind of stranger who would abandon your children when you are arrested for your illegal activities
(3) don’t operate a motor vehicle without a valid license
I’m sure there are plenty more, but that’s a start.....
And kids should learn to choose their parents more carefully!
That should be worth millions!
No sympathy here.
I believe in moral absolutes. "Don't Put Children in Danger" is high on that list.
/johnny
His name wouldn't happen to be Baraq Obama, would it?
Mom needs booted back to the border, with a reminder that endangering children is a crime.
/johnny
You’re right.
Apparently they don’t in North Carolina. They probably do have a nominal service agency but most of the personnel are fictitious with local politicians and their families pocketing the paychecks... non-existent care facilities and beds that the taxpayers pay for. You know the drill.
Lesson for Cops
1) Don’t leave children on the side of the road.
end of list
Yes, she shouldn’t have broken the law, but these policemen did the wrong thing here. Children should never be left unsupervised and usually, the police are careful not to do this, even if the parents have been arrested for worse things than this.
Agreed. Decent people do not abandon children. I don't know which is worse - the supporters of illegal immigration who will exploit this story or some people here who seem to be glowing in sanctimonious joy that children of illegals were potentially in danger.
I agree, send her back from whence she came. However, I cannot see where the police left the children in danger. They were left with an adult that was in the company of the mother at the time of arrest. There is no mention of objections being made by the mother when she was arrested. After the arrest, the man abandoned the children on the side of the road. He is the one who endangered these kids.
The cops didn’t leave the kids in the car, the guy who they assumed was the father abandoned the kids.
I’d like to hear what Mom and the guy told the cops - I’d be interested to find out if Mom told the officers that the stranger was the kids’ dad or uncle or whatever so the kids WOULDN’T be taken by the authorities.
Mom was wrong; the cops were wrong. None of the adults in this story behaved reasonably or responsibly. I’m glad the kids are okay
Yes, and I'm sure if you saw a man and a woman with 3 kids in a car and the woman was the kids' mother, you would assume that the man was a stranger and not the father.
Or maybe you're the type who believes that U.S. police should know every language of every illegal immigrant in this country so that they never misinterpret any situation ever.
Boo flipping hoo!
If the cops questioned her immigration status, her "rights" are violated.
I don't care what any law says. Illegal aliens dont have citizenship rights and protections, and I continue to believe that it's what the founders intended.
If they questioned her marital status, it would be infinitely worse.
The only remaining option is to assume the male is their father, unless told otherwise.
Of course, it could be their father, but illegal aliens never lie...
I'm gonna go sort my socks now.
If they are all deported tomorrow, problem solved.
It would never happen again.
Right?
Silly season is back?
Even if they are wearing explosive vests?
The problem with "absolutes" is that most adults know it means, "no exceptions."
I have a hot flash for you Guillermo; Illegal Alien children are in danger 24/7, whether cops are involved or not.
Maybe you can leave your name and address and phone number with the "do-gooders alliance."
lots more info here......including, that both the kids & the “stranger” has CELL PHONES !!
http://www.newsobserver.com/news/crime_safety/story/1150866.html
Jones said the man, who had no identification or driver’s license, had a cell phone and told the officer that help was on the way. The mother spoke very little English, so the officer had the teenage daughter ask her handcuffed mother whether she approved of them staying with the man, Jones said.
“The girl said something to the mother in Spanish,” Jones said. “And the officer said the mother looked at him and nodded.”
They are looking for the million dollar American lottery. Simple as that.
Policies! Brains? And these idiots carry guns and drive at high speeds? Jakes with no regard for the rest of their profession!
Well, the deputy wrote them such a ticket, then.
sheesh, you almost made me cry. (eye roll)
I don’t want to break up families either. Send the woman, her illegal husband, and all the children back where they came from. Deportation is NOT a ‘hardline’, it is the law. They don’t belong here.......period.
Not from what I read. They would all get a free ride home and that would be that.
I hope you are right, and actually my last response was impulsive.
Actually, it was Bang A'Mama
It’s all good. ;)
Please, do not compare the illegals of today with the immigrants that come over here through Ellis Island. Contrary to belief, alot of immigrants returned to their home countries because it was sink or swim when you got here. NO FREEBEE’’S, yes the immigrants of yesterday built this country, at the same time they were not sucking the country dry with social programs.
Oh, and if 99% are so grateful and want such a good life for their children, explain to me why the children of illegals have the highest drop out rates and they are surpassing every other ethnic group with regard to unwed teen pregnancy? Guess the FREE education doesn’t really mean all that much to them. We have a school here that is predominately illegal children, the middle school has now turned into a gang recruitment center, so much for a better life.
/johnny
The social issues you talk about are also very serious and real and part of system of beliefs and habits that are brought in from the “old country”...But wasn't this true for every major immigrant group that came in waves over our history..the Irish..the Italians..the Eastern Europeans...
Again...In no way do I want to come across as pro-illegal immigration...I only wish to make the point that when the policy of “kick’em out” in actually inforced, there are good, decent people that get pulled into a system that treats them like criminals...
LOL...have you got a list of gov't FREEBIES any of our forefathers received ??
check the link in # 28 for the "rest of this story".....
Apparently this good 'Mother' was driving from NC to MD with NO license, a forged plate on the car, & prolly NO INSURANCE, at 200AM......with her (she now claims) is a "stranger" (he also has no DL or any I.D.).....however BOTH the 'stranger" and the 14 year old have CELL PHONES.
If these kids were at "risk" the mother should also be charged with CHILD ENDANGERMENT...FOR PICKING UP "STRANGE' HITCHIKERS @ 2:00AM, with her kids in the car.
The last thing we need to do in this country is import poverty and hope that generations from now it will all go away. We have educated people waiting years to get the opportunity to come here. Proximity should not be the deciding factor for immigration.
Mexico is NOT a poor country. Perhaps if they protested there for their rights instead of on the streets of LA for rights in OUR country they could stay there and have a decent life.
The splitting us of families is just a manipulation technique. They made a choice that has put them in the situation they are in. If mom or dad goes, if they were such a close “family” it would be a no brainer that the family would want to stay together and they would go HOME as well.
for the 'rest of the story' check the link in #28...
Maybe this mother shouldn't be picking up 'strangers' @ 2:00AM.....& if the kids were @ risk, why didn't anyone use their CELL PHONES ?? (seems there were two in the car).
Yep.....& us lucky taxpayers will foot the bills for lawyers/translators for the lawsuit.
“If they are all deported tomorrow, problem solved.”
Problem is NEVER going to be solved until our borders are effectively secured. Until then, we are spinning our wheels deporting illegal aliens today, only for them to cross back over tomorrow.
ping
Mine came here legally. That makes it different.
Mine didn't breed like rats and suck up social services for free. That makes it different.
Mine didn't hang around the Home Depot getting drunk and urinating in public pretending to look for work. That makes it different.
Mine learned the language. That makes it different.
I'm not seeing a whole lot of similarities here, how about you?
Mine didn't breed like rats and suck up social services for free. That makes it different.
Mine didn't hang around the Home Depot getting drunk and urinating in public pretending to look for work. That makes it different.
Mine learned the language. That makes it different.
I'm not seeing a whole lot of similarities here, how about you?
You do a very good job of describing some of the differences between an Immigrant and an Alien.
We should correct all who misuse the word Immigrant, because there are not nearly as many of those as some would have us believe.
When someone enters another country illegally, with no renunciation of his previous citizenship, with absolutely no intention of becoming a naturalized citizen of the destination country, intent on getting "stuff" without paying for it, then that individual is an Illegal Alien and a Thief.
He is not an Immigrant.
And, usually, such aliens are openly hypocritical in their demands and claims, since an American trying to abuse their country in the same way would be promptly jailed or deported. Mexico doesn't coddle illegals and make them equal to its citizens, but the USA is expected to.
Comparing illegal aliens to the honorable immigrants who built this great nation is disingenuous and dangerous.
don't you understand?
'Protect and Serve' has morphed to 'Coerce and Oppress'.
Who put the "man they barely knew" in the car with her kids in the first place?
Their mom.
So why is it the cops' fault that they left the kids with this adult?
Bogus complaint. Stop whining, mom. Take your kids back to the country you legally live in, and if you want to come back to the US, do it the legal way.
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