Posted on 07/23/2008 10:42:08 PM PDT by rfmad
Guys we have to make this an issue. This guy is not a citizen according to some pretty good investigating. Check out these links about his fake Birth certificate. Maybe this is Hillary's ace in the Hole!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBgkDSw-wQ0
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2050103/posts
http://www.nowpublic.com/world/barack-obama-birth-certificate-dubbed-fake
the infowarrior
I don’t care if it’s the work of Hillary or not; for that side of the aisle, I’d rather Hillary be the nominee.
She will go for it.
:D
Live links:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBgkDSw-wQ0
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2050103/posts
http://www.nowpublic.com/world/barack-obama-birth-certificate-dubbed-fake
If hillary had such proof in her arsenal, why wouldn’t she have used it long ago?
If this issue is pushed hard enough, McCain will be ousted as well, as his birth records are similarly cloudy. Hey, cool.
But then we’d have to start all over! Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh I hate election year!!!
She's been pretty quiet lately...calm before the storm, perhaps?
http://hawaii.gov/doh
https://www.ehawaii.gov/doh/vitrec/exe/vitrec.cgi
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http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/vital-records/vital_records.html
“How to Apply for Certified Copies of Vital Records”
http://www.births.go.ke/birth_cert.htm
KENYA - DEPARTMENT OF CIVIL REGISTRATION - Birth Certificate
“How to apply for a Birth Certificate”
BLOG:
http://hillbuzz.blogspot.com/2008/07/obama-birth-certificate-mystery-nearing.html
Wednesday, July 23, 2008
“Obama Birth Certificate Mystery — Nearing Solution”
Not this sh*t again!
No proof of any disqualifying birth would change Hussein’s position now. Ultimately it would only set the precedent of a non-natural born running for president. After (if) he becomes the official nominee if he were proved to actually have a Russian mother and to have been born in Nairobi it will only set the precedent that anyone in the world can run for US president.
BLOG:
http://hillbuzz.blogspot.com/2008/07/obama-birth-certificate-mystery-nearing.html
Wednesday, July 23, 2008
“Obama Birth Certificate Mystery — Nearing Solution”
The dual (or triple) citizenship thing is a non-starter. If he was born on US soil, he's a US citizen unless he renounced it upon attaining majority.
“it will only set the precedent that anyone in the world can run for US president.”
Well, I’m not sure that’s really the point. What matters is whether you can hold the office, which is a very different thing, and quite applicable to the subject at hand.
You can run all you want, no matter what your status, but if you don’t have the prerequisites to hold the office you can’t hold the office.
“The dual (or triple) citizenship thing is a non-starter. If he was born on US soil, he’s a US citizen unless he renounced it upon attaining majority.”
Agreed. Nobody or nothing (even death itself (silly probate courts!)) cannot remove your U.S. citizenship unless it’s been formally renounced (can’t do it as a minor either (family experience on that one).
Single, dual, triple or quadruple citizenship, as long as US is in their somewhere, you’re a US citizen.
Hillary wants to coast into Election Day without all the scrutiny she would have faced at this point if she had been the “presumptive” nominee all this time.
This smells EXACTLY like a HillBilly scheme to me.
I don’t think it will work out that way. If it were to become an actual issue, the Democrat Congress will pass a law granting him “Natural Born” status probably explicitly covering both candidates in order to imply that McCain is not Narural-Born. The MSM will NOT publish any of it, even if irrefutably true and the courts will ignore it. If the man be elected without the qualifications, it will be effectively cited in future elections and that clause in the Constitution will have become gibberish.
Thanks for your feedback cynwoody.
That was a Hillary-related blog and I have nothing to do with that.
It was a link of interest as to what THEY were chatting about.
Couldn’t agree with you less. You’ve made a number of speculative premises to support your conclusions.
At best, the only way I could go along with your assumptions is if you changed every use of the word “will”, to “might”.
If you did that, then I’d say you “might” be correct. Trying not to nitpick here, as I’m sure you’re a fine fellow (gal?). Anyway, warming a beer and talking about what “might” happen is far less threatening than what is looming in our nation’s near future.
Regards!
If Stanley were born American, this issue is mute.
Who is then next in line for the Presidency? We go back to the Electors who would then choose a qualified candidate?
Would Roberts keep his oath, even in the face of possible impeachment?
Actually it is not the same for McCain, several laws were passed years ago that cover him. Why else do you think the MSM dropped the issue.
Not so, the US Constitution clearly covers the issue. And just because a person misleads the voters does not negate the Constitution.
Must have been born in USA. not just a US citizen
The Chief Justice administering the oath is traditional, not required. Calvin Coolidge was sworn in by a Notary Public.
The Constitution does not define the term Natural Born. It is thus open to legislative definition.
Merd! Yep. I just reread Article II, Section 1, Para 8. It simple says "...he shall take the following oath...". Does not say who administers it.
If it were to become an actual issue, the Democrat Congress will pass a law granting him “Natural Born” status ...Already done. See this article on Senate resolution 511.
... probably explicitly covering both candidates in order to imply that McCain is not Narural-Born.Too late to do them both at one time. It will have to be a separate bill if it comes to that.
This resolution was submitted and passed as soon as the issue was raised in the press.
I don’t care if it’s the work of Hillary or not; for that side of the aisle, I’d rather Hillary be the nominee.Any comments on Operation Chaos?
Who is then next in line for the Presidency? We go back to the Electors who would then choose a qualified candidate?If it is clear that he isn't qualified before the Electoral College votes then they could just vote for another candidate. Any candidate they like. Even Al Sharpton. Electors are not Constitutionally bound to vote for any specific candidate even in a normal case. See this article about faithless electors
If it happens after the Electoral College votes then the Vice President elect will become acting President until another candidates qualifies. The problem is that there is no way specified for a candidate to qualify at that point.
If it happens after he's inaugurated then he has to be impeached and convicted by Congress.
Bottom line, I really doubt anybody will push it after election day.
I’m not an Operative.
For later.
I’m not an Operative.Good answer to a smart a** question.
I didn't mean to aim it at you, sorry.
It’s fine
Of course he isn't. He is a self-proclaimed "citizen of the world."
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