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Scientists Debate Moving Polar Bears to Antarctica as Arctic Melts (This is not a joke!)
Earth First ^ | 7/24/08

Posted on 07/25/2008 6:14:22 PM PDT by Libloather

Scientists Debate Moving Polar Bears to Antarctica as Arctic Melts
July 24, 2008

Scientists are obviously reaching a point of true desperation. While the world still debates whether climate change is even real (eye roll), the scientific community is coming back to an idea that was once considered wrongheaded and dangerous: moving species to new areas of the world as their natural habitats become inhabitable. First up: moving the polar bears to the other side of the globe.

From Wired:

Caught between climate change and human pressure, species are going extinct 100 times faster than at any point in human history.

And some scientists say that figure is too conservative. The real extinction rate, they say, is a full 1,000 times higher than normal. The last time such annihilation took place was during the time of the dinosaurs. And though many conservationists say that saving species by transplanting them is foolish, others say there’s no choice.

“They want the world to be what it was before. But it’s not going to happen,” said Australian ecologist Hugh Possingham, author of an assisted-colonization article published Thursday in Science (citation page).

This does indeed seem like a very bad idea. Who knows what the effects could be of moving species so far away from their natural habitats? After all, such a move will affect the entire global ecosystem. The animal kingdom would have to figure out a new hierarchy. The consequences would be massive. It’s truly frightening to imagine that we are nearly to the point of needing a modern-day Noah’s Ark.


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Scientists Debate Moving Polar Bears to Antarctica as Arctic Melts

Why can't they just swim there? On the other hand, if the ice is melting on the North Pole, why wouldn't it be melting on the South Pole? It is GLOBAL warming - no? (Sorry about that. Sometimes my common sense kicks in...)

1 posted on 07/25/2008 6:14:23 PM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather

If they think polar bears are tough on seals, wait til they see what they can do to a flock of penguins!


2 posted on 07/25/2008 6:16:15 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine (Is /sarc really necessary?)
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To: Libloather

Hmmm...I hope the other scientists encamped at the So. Pole haven’t read the story about the two Russian guards at a Siberian mine that were eaten by black bears this week.

Sometimes things are better left alone...


3 posted on 07/25/2008 6:16:46 PM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: Libloather

If we figure out some good recipes for polar bear meat, they will never go extinct.


4 posted on 07/25/2008 6:17:06 PM PDT by Manfred the Wonder Dawg (Test ALL things, hold to that which is True.)
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To: Libloather
If the sentiment was good enough for whales in the '80s then it's good enough now.

Nuke the Polar Bears!


5 posted on 07/25/2008 6:20:02 PM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: Libloather
First up: moving the polar bears to the other side of the globe.

Great idea! Big problem of course, is food. I suggest we kill two birds with one stone and feed them raw, living liberals. PETA folks in particular ought to volunteer in droves -- after all, this would be nothing but Ethical Treatment of (displaced) Animals...

...and it helps rid the world of nasty, consuming, humans.

And sets an example for the rest of us.

*\;-)

6 posted on 07/25/2008 6:24:07 PM PDT by sionnsar (Impeach Obama |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: Libloather
The arctic sea melts each year. Those who have watched Ice Road Truckers knows this, they also know that it freezes each year. Polar bears do not live on the pack ice, they live the majority of their lives on land, like every other mammal on the planet. By melting, these seas allow access for the bear to reach the very, very rich arctic waters, encourage mass migrations of birds, etc. All in all, feeding their food chain.

Since the vast majority of bears do not /ever/ touch the permanent north polar ice pack, taking them to Antarctica would put them in a far worse environment, disrupting their natural cycle, and ultimately kill the species.

But of course, to liberals, it is the thought that counts. So in the interest of serving liberal ideology, and striking a blow against King Meat!, I advocate putting polar bears in walk in freezers at meat packing warehouses, large commercial restaurant chains, Walmart, and anywhere else that doesn't follow the proper political thought of the day!

7 posted on 07/25/2008 6:25:38 PM PDT by kingu (Party for rent - conservative opinions not required.)
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To: Libloather

Why not just move them to the more liberal cities like San Francisco and New York? I’m sure they’ll find more plentiful food sources than at the South Pole.


8 posted on 07/25/2008 6:26:28 PM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: Libloather

There is one thing these “scientists” forget. The adaption of the species, any species, to change.

This is pure hype.


9 posted on 07/25/2008 6:26:43 PM PDT by KittenClaws
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To: kittymyrib
They were not black bears, they were related to the grizzly.
10 posted on 07/25/2008 6:27:43 PM PDT by Kent1957
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To: Libloather

The bears may end up living at both extremes, but it is these “scientists” who are bi-polar...


11 posted on 07/25/2008 6:28:54 PM PDT by mikrofon (GW fanatics not 'bearing' up well)
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To: Manfred the Wonder Dawg
If we figure out some good recipes for polar bear meat, they will never go extinct.

Has you nevah tasted Cajun Bayou Polah Beah Jumbalya Stew? Ooooooheeeeee! That's good eatin!

12 posted on 07/25/2008 6:30:25 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: kittymyrib

Antarctica has become a scientific outpost for all sorts of studies. I am studying geology and have a chance to take a 6 week trip down there. I would never go if there were polar bears. I am told the biggest threat is some penguins stealing your food and hanging around the snowmobiles for warmth.


13 posted on 07/25/2008 6:32:00 PM PDT by LukeL (Yasser Arafat: "I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize")
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To: Kent1957
They were not black bears, they were related to the grizzly. Indeed, polar bears are believed to be the result of natural selection when grizzly (technically brown bears) got caught in the artic some 600,000 years ago. They are huge. I even saw one one bright summer night (no darkness) when on topside watch on a submarine back in the late 1960s!
14 posted on 07/25/2008 6:33:17 PM PDT by meandog (please pray for future President McCain, day minus 157 and counting)))
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To: Libloather; Defendingliberty; Genesis defender; WL-law; Normandy; TenthAmendmentChampion; FrPR; ...
 



Beam Me to Planet Gore !

15 posted on 07/25/2008 6:35:10 PM PDT by steelyourfaith
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To: kingu
Two of the truckers from the TV show were on the Tonight Show last night.
Jay asked about Global Warming and one of the guys said the last two years have been the COLDEST he remembers.

Help me Al, I'm confused...

16 posted on 07/25/2008 6:36:19 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (If it looks like a lib, smells like a lib and whines like a lib, it must be an Obama voter)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

“wait til they see what they can do to a flock of penguins!”

Looks to me like the “scientists” hate penguins.

The bears are just going to have to get used to feathers.


17 posted on 07/25/2008 6:37:07 PM PDT by dalereed (both)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

I’ll wait for the polar bear vs. orca video.


18 posted on 07/25/2008 6:38:01 PM PDT by AZ .44 MAG (Do I waste my time explaining? He had such trouble with my name.)
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To: meandog
This was a story about Russian Bears that ate two guards at a mine.
19 posted on 07/25/2008 6:40:17 PM PDT by WildcatClan (Duncan Hunter isn't opaque.)
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To: Libloather

Polar bears have lasted through other cycles of “global warming” over 10s of millions of years. They are still here.

If the scientists are so worried, rather than move the bears, why not offer up themselves for a survival snack for the polar bears? Maybe the Gorester could start a trend???


20 posted on 07/25/2008 6:42:57 PM PDT by texson66 ("Tyranny is yielding to the lust of the governing." - Lord Moulton)
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To: mikrofon

t”The bears may end up living at both extremes, but it is these “scientists” who are bi-polar..”

That’s funny!


21 posted on 07/25/2008 6:43:16 PM PDT by AZ .44 MAG (Do I waste my time explaining? He had such trouble with my name.)
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To: Manfred the Wonder Dawg; writer33; AT7Saluki; MurryMom
If we figure out some good recipes for polar bear meat, they will never go extinct.

I hear they taste kinda like spotted owl...

22 posted on 07/25/2008 6:44:24 PM PDT by Libloather (July is Liberal Awareness Month.)
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To: Libloather
Brilliant idea. Introduce a savage predator into another ecosystem. Proof positive it's liberals who think they can play God and get away with it.
23 posted on 07/25/2008 6:44:56 PM PDT by LiberConservative ("Typical" white guy)
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To: Libloather

It’s generally a mistake to mess with the natural order of things. Recall the brilliant move introduce water hiacinyth to Florida, the following decision to introduce the manatee to eat the waterway choking plants, and the ensuing chopping up of the manatee with boat props. Now we have pythons and boa constrictors loose in florida. Thousands of examples of the unintended effects of man fooling around with natural selection exist throughout history - usually with disastrous consequences. The on thing we learn from history is that we do not learn from history.


24 posted on 07/25/2008 6:45:58 PM PDT by Whitehawk
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To: sionnsar
(displaced) Animals...

Could they be considered 'disenfranchised'?

25 posted on 07/25/2008 6:46:14 PM PDT by Libloather (July is Liberal Awareness Month.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine
"If they think polar bears are tough on seals, wait til they see what they can do to a flock of penguins!"

LOL....five years from now we'll be debating moving the endangered penguin to the north pole.

26 posted on 07/25/2008 6:51:49 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: LiberConservative
"Brilliant idea. Introduce a savage predator into another ecosystem."

Why not? It's working so well here in the states with Islam and MS13.

27 posted on 07/25/2008 6:53:26 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Libloather

“Taste like spotted owl” - that’s really funny! LOL!


28 posted on 07/25/2008 6:53:41 PM PDT by Manfred the Wonder Dawg (Test ALL things, hold to that which is True.)
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To: Libloather

Scientists Debate Moving Polar Bears to Antarctica as Arctic Melts
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What an enormous task!!!! Any idiot scientist should know that it’d be a lot easier to simply move the ice from Antarctica up north. The U.N. should be in on this effort ofcourse. /s


29 posted on 07/25/2008 6:58:46 PM PDT by Joan Kerrey
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To: Libloather

Here is a better solution.
A radical notion about ‘the wild’
Toronto Star July 13, 2008 Murray Whyte

Posted on Thursday July 24, 15:10:46 GMT-0700 2008 by girlangler
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2050807/posts


30 posted on 07/25/2008 7:01:45 PM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP (Make all taxes truly voluntary)
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To: Libloather

Didn’t I read a few days ago that Anchorage is experiencing their coldest winter on record?


31 posted on 07/25/2008 7:02:13 PM PDT by elpadre (nation)
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To: Libloather
Earth First ^| 7/24/08

That's all I needed to know...

32 posted on 07/25/2008 7:09:39 PM PDT by JDoutrider (Obama: The Hype and Chains candidate)
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To: Libloather

One other bright idea that “scientists” had, was back in the ‘70s when “Global Cooling” was all the rage. Their solution to “Global Cooling” was to spread crude oil on the snow covered Arctic in order to absorb the sun’s heat rather than reflecting it back into the sky.

I kid you not.


33 posted on 07/25/2008 7:17:30 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Barack Hussein Obama=Jimmy Carter Part Douche)
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To: elpadre; writer33; AT7Saluki; MurryMom
Didn’t I read a few days ago that Anchorage is experiencing their coldest winter on record?

They're gonna need plenty of heating oil. Do they know where to get it? Imported, I assume...

34 posted on 07/25/2008 7:19:51 PM PDT by Libloather (July is Liberal Awareness Month.)
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To: Libloather

It’s going to cost billions to move the bears from one pole to the other. And guess who they want to pay for it all?


35 posted on 07/25/2008 7:22:44 PM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: VeniVidiVici; writer33; AT7Saluki; MurryMom
One other bright idea that “scientists” had, was back in the ‘70s when “Global Cooling” was all the rage. Their solution to “Global Cooling” was to spread crude oil on the snow covered Arctic in order to absorb the sun’s heat rather than reflecting it back into the sky.

You're kidding.

I kid you not.

No, really...

36 posted on 07/25/2008 7:26:07 PM PDT by Libloather (July is Liberal Awareness Month.)
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To: Libloather
Mean while, polar bears have other plans.

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37 posted on 07/25/2008 7:29:54 PM PDT by Islander7 ("Show me an honest politician and I will show you a case of mistaken identity.")
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To: Libloather

Real or not, its still a joke.


38 posted on 07/25/2008 7:36:41 PM PDT by AndyTheBear (Disastrous social experimentation is the opiate of elitist snobs.)
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To: ViLaLuz; AT7Saluki
And guess who they want to pay for it all?

Da bears.


39 posted on 07/25/2008 7:37:01 PM PDT by Libloather (July is Liberal Awareness Month.)
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To: Libloather

The polar bears will do well the first year as they eat every Emperor penguin in sight.


40 posted on 07/25/2008 7:38:15 PM PDT by TigersEye (Drill or get off the Hill. ... call Nancy Pelosi @ 202 - 225 - 0100)
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To: AndyTheBear
Real or not, its still a joke.

How would you know? (BTW, don't the claws mess up your keyboard?)

41 posted on 07/25/2008 7:39:51 PM PDT by Libloather (July is Liberal Awareness Month.)
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To: Libloather

And after we move them can we have ANWR?


42 posted on 07/25/2008 7:43:10 PM PDT by SouthTexas (Invert the 5-4 and you have no rights.)
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To: JDoutrider
Earth First ^| 7/24/08

That's all I needed to know...

Earth First. We'll log the other planets later.

43 posted on 07/25/2008 7:46:35 PM PDT by InABunkerUnderSF ("Gun Control" is not about the guns. "Illegal Immigration" is not about the immigration)
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To: Libloather

sounds like a job for Ice Truckers.


44 posted on 07/25/2008 7:59:46 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE toll-free tip hotline 1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRget!!!)
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To: SouthTexas; MurryMom
And after we move them can we have ANWR?

Gonna need to move the caribou, too. That'll take a pretty big boat.


45 posted on 07/25/2008 8:03:15 PM PDT by Libloather (July is Liberal Awareness Month.)
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To: Libloather
wait till they get a taste for penguins...
46 posted on 07/25/2008 8:08:55 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist -CTHULHU/NYARLATHOTEP'08 = Nothing LESS!!!)
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To: Libloather

***Caught between climate change and human pressure, species are going extinct 100 times faster than at any point in human history.***

Ok, so I can think of maybe the carrier pigeon, the dodo, and good Hollywood movies stars. What else is dying out?


47 posted on 07/25/2008 8:10:24 PM PDT by irishtenor (Check out my blog at http://boompa53.blogspot.com/)
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To: Libloather

Bussing didn’t work with white kids, why should it work with white bears?


48 posted on 07/25/2008 8:10:50 PM PDT by Rembrandt (We would have won Viet Nam w/o Dim interference.)
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To: Libloather
While the world still debates whether climate change is even real (eye roll), the scientific community is coming back to an idea that was once considered wrongheaded and dangerous: moving species to new areas of the world as their natural habitats become inhabitable.

Probably because the idea is wrongheaded and dangerous.

49 posted on 07/25/2008 8:13:37 PM PDT by xjcsa (Has anyone seen my cornballer?)
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To: Libloather
The whole idea is bogus. Extinction rates are minimal and the polar bear is flourishing right where it is. The fact is, sadly, journals like Science and Nature have discredited themselves from further serious consideration due to contaminated politicking like this.
50 posted on 07/25/2008 8:20:57 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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