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Scientists Debate Moving Polar Bears to Antarctica as Arctic Melts (This is not a joke!)
Earth First ^
| 7/24/08
Posted on 07/25/2008 6:14:22 PM PDT by Libloather
Scientists Debate Moving Polar Bears to Antarctica as Arctic Melts
July 24, 2008
Scientists are obviously reaching a point of true desperation. While the world still debates whether climate change is even real (eye roll), the scientific community is coming back to an idea that was once considered wrongheaded and dangerous: moving species to new areas of the world as their natural habitats become inhabitable. First up: moving the polar bears to the other side of the globe.
From Wired:
Caught between climate change and human pressure, species are going extinct 100 times faster than at any point in human history.
And some scientists say that figure is too conservative. The real extinction rate, they say, is a full 1,000 times higher than normal. The last time such annihilation took place was during the time of the dinosaurs. And though many conservationists say that saving species by transplanting them is foolish, others say theres no choice.
They want the world to be what it was before. But its not going to happen, said Australian ecologist Hugh Possingham, author of an assisted-colonization article published Thursday in Science (citation page).
This does indeed seem like a very bad idea. Who knows what the effects could be of moving species so far away from their natural habitats? After all, such a move will affect the entire global ecosystem. The animal kingdom would have to figure out a new hierarchy. The consequences would be massive. Its truly frightening to imagine that we are nearly to the point of needing a modern-day Noahs Ark.
TOPICS: Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: antarctica; bears; climatechange; environment; polar; satire; scientists
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Scientists Debate Moving Polar Bears to Antarctica as Arctic Melts
Why can't they just swim there? On the other hand, if the ice is melting on the North Pole, why wouldn't it be melting on the South Pole? It is GLOBAL warming - no? (Sorry about that. Sometimes my common sense kicks in...)
To: Libloather
If they think polar bears are tough on seals, wait til they see what they can do to a flock of penguins!
To: Libloather
Hmmm...I hope the other scientists encamped at the So. Pole haven’t read the story about the two Russian guards at a Siberian mine that were eaten by black bears this week.
Sometimes things are better left alone...
To: Libloather
If we figure out some good recipes for polar bear meat, they will never go extinct.
To: Libloather
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If the sentiment was good enough for whales in the '80s then it's good enough now. Nuke the Polar Bears!
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To: Libloather
First up: moving the polar bears to the other side of the globe. Great idea! Big problem of course, is food. I suggest we kill two birds with one stone and feed them raw, living liberals. PETA folks in particular ought to volunteer in droves -- after all, this would be nothing but Ethical Treatment of (displaced) Animals...
...and it helps rid the world of nasty, consuming, humans.
And sets an example for the rest of us.
*\;-)
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posted on
07/25/2008 6:24:07 PM PDT
by
sionnsar
(Impeach Obama |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
To: Libloather
The arctic sea melts each year. Those who have watched Ice Road Truckers knows this, they also know that it freezes each year. Polar bears do not live on the pack ice, they live the majority of their lives on land, like every other mammal on the planet. By melting, these seas allow access for the bear to reach the very, very rich arctic waters, encourage mass migrations of birds, etc. All in all, feeding their food chain.
Since the vast majority of bears do not /ever/ touch the permanent north polar ice pack, taking them to Antarctica would put them in a far worse environment, disrupting their natural cycle, and ultimately kill the species.
But of course, to liberals, it is the thought that counts. So in the interest of serving liberal ideology, and striking a blow against King Meat!, I advocate putting polar bears in walk in freezers at meat packing warehouses, large commercial restaurant chains, Walmart, and anywhere else that doesn't follow the proper political thought of the day!
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posted on
07/25/2008 6:25:38 PM PDT
by
kingu
(Party for rent - conservative opinions not required.)
To: Libloather
Why not just move them to the more liberal cities like San Francisco and New York? I’m sure they’ll find more plentiful food sources than at the South Pole.
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posted on
07/25/2008 6:26:28 PM PDT
by
Sooth2222
("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
To: Libloather
There is one thing these “scientists” forget. The adaption of the species, any species, to change.
This is pure hype.
To: kittymyrib
They were not black bears, they were related to the grizzly.
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posted on
07/25/2008 6:27:43 PM PDT
by
Kent1957
To: Libloather
The bears may end up living at both extremes, but it is these “scientists” who are bi-polar...
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posted on
07/25/2008 6:28:54 PM PDT
by
mikrofon
(GW fanatics not 'bearing' up well)
To: Manfred the Wonder Dawg
If we figure out some good recipes for polar bear meat, they will never go extinct. Has you nevah tasted Cajun Bayou Polah Beah Jumbalya Stew? Ooooooheeeeee! That's good eatin!
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posted on
07/25/2008 6:30:25 PM PDT
by
Grizzled Bear
("Does not play well with others.")
To: kittymyrib
Antarctica has become a scientific outpost for all sorts of studies. I am studying geology and have a chance to take a 6 week trip down there. I would never go if there were polar bears. I am told the biggest threat is some penguins stealing your food and hanging around the snowmobiles for warmth.
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posted on
07/25/2008 6:32:00 PM PDT
by
LukeL
(Yasser Arafat: "I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize")
To: Kent1957
They were not black bears, they were related to the grizzly. Indeed, polar bears are believed to be the result of natural selection when grizzly (technically brown bears) got caught in the artic some 600,000 years ago. They are huge. I even saw one one bright summer night (no darkness) when on topside watch on a submarine back in the late 1960s!
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posted on
07/25/2008 6:33:17 PM PDT
by
meandog
(please pray for future President McCain, day minus 157 and counting)))
To: Libloather; Defendingliberty; Genesis defender; WL-law; Normandy; TenthAmendmentChampion; FrPR; ...
To: kingu
Two of the truckers from the TV show were on the Tonight Show last night.
Jay asked about Global Warming and one of the guys said the last two years have been the COLDEST he remembers.
Help me Al, I'm confused...
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posted on
07/25/2008 6:36:19 PM PDT
by
Kickass Conservative
(If it looks like a lib, smells like a lib and whines like a lib, it must be an Obama voter)
To: Pearls Before Swine
“wait til they see what they can do to a flock of penguins!”
Looks to me like the “scientists” hate penguins.
The bears are just going to have to get used to feathers.
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posted on
07/25/2008 6:37:07 PM PDT
by
dalereed
(both)
To: Pearls Before Swine
I’ll wait for the polar bear vs. orca video.
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posted on
07/25/2008 6:38:01 PM PDT
by
AZ .44 MAG
(Do I waste my time explaining? He had such trouble with my name.)
To: meandog
This was a story about Russian Bears that ate two guards at a mine.
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posted on
07/25/2008 6:40:17 PM PDT
by
WildcatClan
(Duncan Hunter isn't opaque.)
To: Libloather
Polar bears have lasted through other cycles of “global warming” over 10s of millions of years. They are still here.
If the scientists are so worried, rather than move the bears, why not offer up themselves for a survival snack for the polar bears? Maybe the Gorester could start a trend???
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posted on
07/25/2008 6:42:57 PM PDT
by
texson66
("Tyranny is yielding to the lust of the governing." - Lord Moulton)
To: mikrofon
t”The bears may end up living at both extremes, but it is these Âscientists who are bi-polar..”
That’s funny!
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posted on
07/25/2008 6:43:16 PM PDT
by
AZ .44 MAG
(Do I waste my time explaining? He had such trouble with my name.)
To: Manfred the Wonder Dawg; writer33; AT7Saluki; MurryMom
If we figure out some good recipes for polar bear meat, they will never go extinct.I hear they taste kinda like spotted owl...
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posted on
07/25/2008 6:44:24 PM PDT
by
Libloather
(July is Liberal Awareness Month.)
To: Libloather
Brilliant idea. Introduce a savage predator into another ecosystem. Proof positive it's liberals who think they can play God and get away with it.
To: Libloather
It’s generally a mistake to mess with the natural order of things. Recall the brilliant move introduce water hiacinyth to Florida, the following decision to introduce the manatee to eat the waterway choking plants, and the ensuing chopping up of the manatee with boat props. Now we have pythons and boa constrictors loose in florida. Thousands of examples of the unintended effects of man fooling around with natural selection exist throughout history - usually with disastrous consequences. The on thing we learn from history is that we do not learn from history.
To: sionnsar
(displaced) Animals...Could they be considered 'disenfranchised'?
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posted on
07/25/2008 6:46:14 PM PDT
by
Libloather
(July is Liberal Awareness Month.)
To: Pearls Before Swine
"If they think polar bears are tough on seals, wait til they see what they can do to a flock of penguins!" LOL....five years from now we'll be debating moving the endangered penguin to the north pole.
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posted on
07/25/2008 6:51:49 PM PDT
by
Joe 6-pack
(Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
To: LiberConservative
"Brilliant idea. Introduce a savage predator into another ecosystem." Why not? It's working so well here in the states with Islam and MS13.
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posted on
07/25/2008 6:53:26 PM PDT
by
Joe 6-pack
(Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
To: Libloather
“Taste like spotted owl” - that’s really funny! LOL!
To: Libloather
Scientists Debate Moving Polar Bears to Antarctica as Arctic Melts
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What an enormous task!!!! Any idiot scientist should know that it’d be a lot easier to simply move the ice from Antarctica up north. The U.N. should be in on this effort ofcourse. /s
To: Libloather
To: Libloather
Didn’t I read a few days ago that Anchorage is experiencing their coldest winter on record?
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posted on
07/25/2008 7:02:13 PM PDT
by
elpadre
(nation)
To: Libloather
Earth First ^| 7/24/08
That's all I needed to know...
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posted on
07/25/2008 7:09:39 PM PDT
by
JDoutrider
(Obama: The Hype and Chains candidate)
To: Libloather
One other bright idea that “scientists” had, was back in the ‘70s when “Global Cooling” was all the rage. Their solution to “Global Cooling” was to spread crude oil on the snow covered Arctic in order to absorb the sun’s heat rather than reflecting it back into the sky.
I kid you not.
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posted on
07/25/2008 7:17:30 PM PDT
by
VeniVidiVici
(Barack Hussein Obama=Jimmy Carter Part Douche)
To: elpadre; writer33; AT7Saluki; MurryMom
Didnt I read a few days ago that Anchorage is experiencing their coldest winter on record?They're gonna need plenty of heating oil. Do they know where to get it? Imported, I assume...
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posted on
07/25/2008 7:19:51 PM PDT
by
Libloather
(July is Liberal Awareness Month.)
To: Libloather
It’s going to cost billions to move the bears from one pole to the other. And guess who they want to pay for it all?
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posted on
07/25/2008 7:22:44 PM PDT
by
ViLaLuz
(2 Chronicles 7:14)
To: VeniVidiVici; writer33; AT7Saluki; MurryMom
One other bright idea that scientists had, was back in the 70s when Global Cooling was all the rage. Their solution to Global Cooling was to spread crude oil on the snow covered Arctic in order to absorb the suns heat rather than reflecting it back into the sky.You're kidding.
I kid you not.
No, really...
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posted on
07/25/2008 7:26:07 PM PDT
by
Libloather
(July is Liberal Awareness Month.)
To: Libloather
Mean while, polar bears have other plans.
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posted on
07/25/2008 7:29:54 PM PDT
by
Islander7
("Show me an honest politician and I will show you a case of mistaken identity.")
To: Libloather
Real or not, its still a joke.
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posted on
07/25/2008 7:36:41 PM PDT
by
AndyTheBear
(Disastrous social experimentation is the opiate of elitist snobs.)
To: ViLaLuz; AT7Saluki
And guess who they want to pay for it all?Da bears.
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posted on
07/25/2008 7:37:01 PM PDT
by
Libloather
(July is Liberal Awareness Month.)
To: Libloather
The polar bears will do well the first year as they eat every Emperor penguin in sight.
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posted on
07/25/2008 7:38:15 PM PDT
by
TigersEye
(Drill or get off the Hill. ... call Nancy Pelosi @ 202 - 225 - 0100)
To: AndyTheBear
Real or not, its still a joke.How would you know? (BTW, don't the claws mess up your keyboard?)
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posted on
07/25/2008 7:39:51 PM PDT
by
Libloather
(July is Liberal Awareness Month.)
To: Libloather
And after we move them can we have ANWR?
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posted on
07/25/2008 7:43:10 PM PDT
by
SouthTexas
(Invert the 5-4 and you have no rights.)
To: JDoutrider
Earth First ^| 7/24/08 That's all I needed to know...
Earth First. We'll log the other planets later.
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posted on
07/25/2008 7:46:35 PM PDT
by
InABunkerUnderSF
("Gun Control" is not about the guns. "Illegal Immigration" is not about the immigration)
To: Libloather
sounds like a job for Ice Truckers.
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posted on
07/25/2008 7:59:46 PM PDT
by
NormsRevenge
(Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE toll-free tip hotline 1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRget!!!)
To: SouthTexas; MurryMom
And after we move them can we have ANWR?Gonna need to move the caribou, too. That'll take a pretty big boat.
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posted on
07/25/2008 8:03:15 PM PDT
by
Libloather
(July is Liberal Awareness Month.)
To: Libloather

wait till they get a taste for penguins...
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posted on
07/25/2008 8:08:55 PM PDT
by
Chode
(American Hedonist -CTHULHU/NYARLATHOTEP'08 = Nothing LESS!!!)
To: Libloather
***Caught between climate change and human pressure, species are going extinct 100 times faster than at any point in human history.***
Ok, so I can think of maybe the carrier pigeon, the dodo, and good Hollywood movies stars. What else is dying out?
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posted on
07/25/2008 8:10:24 PM PDT
by
irishtenor
(Check out my blog at http://boompa53.blogspot.com/)
To: Libloather
Bussing didn’t work with white kids, why should it work with white bears?
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posted on
07/25/2008 8:10:50 PM PDT
by
Rembrandt
(We would have won Viet Nam w/o Dim interference.)
To: Libloather
While the world still debates whether climate change is even real (eye roll), the scientific community is coming back to an idea that was once considered wrongheaded and dangerous: moving species to new areas of the world as their natural habitats become inhabitable.Probably because the idea is wrongheaded and dangerous.
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posted on
07/25/2008 8:13:37 PM PDT
by
xjcsa
(Has anyone seen my cornballer?)
To: Libloather
The whole idea is bogus. Extinction rates are minimal and the polar bear is flourishing right where it is. The fact is, sadly, journals like Science and Nature have discredited themselves from further serious consideration due to contaminated politicking like this.
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