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Are Pot Users Criminals? The Tragic Case of Rachel Hoffman
ABC News ^ | July 24, 2008 | BRIAN ROSS and VIC WALTER

Posted on 07/25/2008 8:49:03 PM PDT by bamahead

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To: dragnet2

Try working for a beer distributor. You could hire and fire 100 pot smokers in a year. I’m told that they look for jobs in warehouses and outdoors mostly so as not to get caught as easily.


141 posted on 07/25/2008 10:48:44 PM PDT by waiyu (Living is the only thing worth dying for.)
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To: MartinStyles
It was her Gaia given right to deal marijuana and MDMA.

How dare society have laws against those vices!

142 posted on 07/25/2008 10:48:46 PM PDT by Mojave
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To: bigfootbob

I agree. Terribly wrong on MANY levels. I wonder how many more lives the “war on drugs” is going to take.


143 posted on 07/25/2008 10:49:50 PM PDT by greccogirl
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To: MartinStyles

Do the time, been sick all day on the computer and can’t time heh.


144 posted on 07/25/2008 10:49:56 PM PDT by MartinStyles
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To: MartinStyles

No, if you read the thread, I called for legalizing pot and hashish, nothing else.

Keep up.


145 posted on 07/25/2008 10:50:17 PM PDT by Redcoat1982
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To: waiyu
Try working for a beer distributor. You could hire and fire 100 pot smokers in a year.

If it's such a problem, why not pre-employment drug tests, and random routine testing?

146 posted on 07/25/2008 10:50:48 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: dalereed

Sorry but nonsense.


147 posted on 07/25/2008 10:51:14 PM PDT by greccogirl
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To: Redcoat1982

Then you’re a hypocrite to use the old ‘God made’ argument for your drug, but not others aren’t you.. potheads make the worst debaters, but in their heads they win every time.


148 posted on 07/25/2008 10:51:24 PM PDT by MartinStyles
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To: ConservaTexan
"to avoid four years in prison"

Yes, it is the nature of coercion to employ a threat against the coerced.

Unlike your contention that she died trying to cut a deal she was was murdered executing the deal she was coerced into.


149 posted on 07/25/2008 10:52:22 PM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: ConservaTexan

Four YEARS for some pot? Right..............I bet you thought that kid in Georgia should’ve gone to prison for ten years for getting a blow job.


150 posted on 07/25/2008 10:52:36 PM PDT by greccogirl
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To: MartinStyles
Singapore pretty much does that, and has very little drug problems. I'd go on their model.

Where do you get that Singapore has very little in the way of drug problems?

"The GOS [Government of Singapore] nonetheless is concerned about the increase in addiction rates and recidivism among drug offenders who have undergone treatment. There are currently about 9,000 addicts undergoing rehabilitation in Singapore treatment centers, the same number as in 1995."

--http://www.state.gov/www/global/narcotics_law/1996_narc_report/index.html

The Netherlands-- "Demand Reduction. The Netherlands has extensive demand reduction programs and low­threshold medical services for addicts, who are also offered drug rehabilitation programs. Authorities believe such programs reach about 70­80 percent of the country's 25,000 hard­drug users."

--http://www.state.gov/www/global/narcotics_law/1996_narc_report/index.html

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Using a population of 3 million for Singapore in 1996, that works out to an addiction rate of about 0.30%. Using the State Dept. figures for the Netherlands, and a population of 15.1 million, the addiction rate was about 0.17%.

Also note that the Singapore figure only takes into account the addicts under treatment, whereas the figure for Holland is the estimate of the total number of addicts.

151 posted on 07/25/2008 10:52:38 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: dalereed

Yeah well I worked with engineers with PHD’s every single day who smoked.


152 posted on 07/25/2008 10:53:10 PM PDT by greccogirl
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To: MartinStyles
"Sounds like she made a CHOICE to do this... She did the crime, didn’t want to do the crime, but karma got her in another way.."

She made a bad choice. No doubt. But I don't think good judgement was made sending her into this situation.

153 posted on 07/25/2008 10:53:23 PM PDT by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: greccogirl

Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time. She had MDMA on her as well. She made all the choices that led to her death.


154 posted on 07/25/2008 10:53:50 PM PDT by MartinStyles
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To: MartinStyles

And now, thanks to the police, she is dead.

Oh, thank you Police for saving society from this dastardly criminal by screwing up and having her killed. We are SO much more safe now.


155 posted on 07/25/2008 10:53:50 PM PDT by Redcoat1982
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To: dragnet2
Oh, so you're saying all his employees are illegal aliens?

He said they were foreigners: "usless"

156 posted on 07/25/2008 10:53:55 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy
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To: dalereed
Hopefully someone will kill you before then!

What a splendid little attempt at humor! Do you hang out with Johnny Taliban, by any chance? I think you two have the same sense of humor.

If I had my way anyone using drugs should on the spot execution.

Oh, death squads killing people on the spot, how wonderful! Let's do away with the bourgeois rubbish of due process. Have you considered moving to Iran? They kill all sorts of people for violating the slightest rule. Maybe you could get a job as executioner there.

157 posted on 07/25/2008 10:53:58 PM PDT by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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To: boogerbear

Actually it doesn’t. A recent study of 10,000 heavy pot smokers showed NO LINK TO LUNG CANCER. And are we studying why not? Of course not! We’re too stupid!


158 posted on 07/25/2008 10:54:50 PM PDT by greccogirl
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To: MartinStyles

As much of a hypocrite as you. I don’t see you calling for alcohol to be banned, its much worse than pot.

How many people have overdosed on pot?


159 posted on 07/25/2008 10:55:07 PM PDT by Redcoat1982
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To: Redcoat1982

She got herself killed..

Messing with drug/gun runners isn’t safe.. She should’ve just gone to trial and dealt with the consequences.


160 posted on 07/25/2008 10:55:12 PM PDT by MartinStyles
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