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Bush critics get an unimpeachable forum
http://www.examiner.com/a-1505654~Bush_critics_get_an_unimpeachable_forum.html ^ | July 25, 2008 | Jim Abrams

Posted on 07/26/2008 5:21:17 AM PDT by equaviator

WASHINGTON (Map, News) - Call it the un-impeachment hearing.

The House Judiciary Committee held a hearing Friday it insisted was not about removing President Bush from office. But critics of Bush's policies couldn't pass up the chance to charge the president with a long list of impeachable "high crimes and misdemeanors."

Leading the way was Rep. Dennis Kucinich, D-Ohio, the former Democratic presidential candidate who has brought repeated impeachment resolutions on the House floor against Bush and Vice President Cheney.

Kucinich got a rock star welcome of whistles, hoots and clapping as he walked into the hearing room, holding hands with his wife, from hundreds of anti-war, anti-Bush people crammed into the room and lining the hallways outside. T-shirts reading "Arrest Bush" and "Veterans for Impeachment" illustrated the sentiments of many.

The House Democratic leadership, not interested in a bloody impeachment battle in the last year of Bush's presidency, steered Kucinich's resolutions to the Judiciary Committee where they could quietly fade away, but Friday's hearing gave Kucinich and his allies an opportunity to air their views.

"To the regret of many, this is not an impeachment hearing," said committee chairman John Conyers, D-Mich., pointing out the less incendiary title of the event, "executive power and its constitutional limitations."

Still, Conyers, a vocal opponent of Bush, noted that his panel had pursued many issues that Kucinich and others regard as impeachable offenses: manipulating intelligence about Iraq; misusing authority with regard to torture, detention and rendition; politicizing the Justice Department and retaliating against critics, as in the outing of former CIA agent Valerie Plame.

Republicans, clearly in the minority at the hearing, expressed suspicion at Democratic motives. Rep. Dan Lungren, R-Calif., called it "impeachment lite," where people were given free rein to impugn Bush but not to impeach him.

"It seems that we are hosting an anger management class," said Rep. Lamar Smith of Texas, the committee's senior Republican. "This hearing will not cause us to impeach the president; it will only serve to impeach Congress's credibility."

The committee also reminded lawmakers and those testifying that House rules prohibit "personal abuse, innuendo or ridicule of the president." The House Rules and Manual points out that suggestions of mendacity, or accusations of hypocrisy, demagoguery or deception were out of order.

"The rules of the House prevent me or any witness from utilizing familiar terms," Kucinich said. "But we can put two and two together in our minds."

Former Los Angeles County Prosecutor Vincent Bugliosi, known for his prosecution of Charles Manson in 1970, acknowledged that "I am forbidden from accusing him of a crime, or even any dishonorable conduct" under House rules. But he could still encourage people to read his book, "The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder."

Rep. Zoe Lofgren, D-Calif., was less circumspect in asserting that Bush was "the worst president that our nation has ever suffered."

Rep. Maurice Hinchey, D-N.Y., concluded that "this is the most impeachable administration in the history of America because of the way that it has clearly violated the law."

"I am really astonished at the mood in this room," commented one witness, George Mason University School of Law professor Jeremy Rabkin.

"The tone of these deliberations is slightly demented," Rabkin said. "You should all remind yourselves that the rest of the country is not necessarily in this same bubble in which people think it is reasonable to describe the president as if he were Caligula."


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: 110th; bds; bush; conyers; hinchey; impeachement; kucinich; lofgren; moonbats; sillydems
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To: equaviator

Kind of sounds EXACTLY what they were saying about Lincoln!!!

BTW...When the vote on offshore drilling?


21 posted on 07/26/2008 6:15:05 AM PDT by nikos1121 (The first black president of the US should be at least a "Jackie Robinson.")
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To: goldstategop

They can’t impeach him, they don’t have the votes. The best they could do was to get this hearing on a much more vague topic.

That’s because the rest of the Democrats, while they are loons, are not completely insane. They know the country would not stand for it.


22 posted on 07/26/2008 6:18:51 AM PDT by Pikachu_Dad
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To: Gritty

I point this out all the time to the libs at work. I call it selective outrage. They were flipping a few weeks ago when Bush claimed executive privilege. They claimed it was a frivolous use of power. I remind them of Bill Clinton using executive privilege when trying to cover up a bj. My my, they have short memories when they need to fill their daily does of Bush hatred.


23 posted on 07/26/2008 6:22:46 AM PDT by Dutch Boy
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To: Don Carlos

Okay, okay...substitute “Pathetic bastards” for “Poor bastards”...works for me!


24 posted on 07/26/2008 6:24:53 AM PDT by equaviator ("There's a (datum) plane on the horizon coming in...see it?")
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To: equaviator; pnh102; Vaduz; snowman1; Laverne; Popman; Darkwolf377; Wil H; NOBAMA in 08; ...
"The House Judiciary Committee held a hearing Friday it insisted was not about removing President Bush from office. But critics of Bush's policies couldn't pass up the chance to charge the president with a long list of impeachable 'high crimes and misdemeanors.'"

FYI: The chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, John Conyers Jr of Michigan, is an endorser of the Revolutionary Communist Party call to "Drive Out the Bush Regime". If anyone needs to be 'investigated', it's that SOB! But since the republicans are mostly weak-kneed cowards, I doubt it will ever happen.

Click on the WCW link just below and see: "Endorsers of the Call to Drive Out the Bush Regime Include". Conyers' endorsement appears right after Ward Churchill's. Al Sharpton's, Maxine Waters and Jesse Jackson Jr's endorsements are also on the list:
http://worldcantwait.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2538&Itemid=2

And on Oct 5, 2006, demonRat chair of the House Judiciary Committee, John Conyers Jr, GAVE A SPEECH to the World Can't Wait--Drive Out the Bush Regime organization. Here's full-page coverage of it from the WCW website:
http://www.worldcantwait.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3114&Itemid=243

Fact: World Can't Wait--Drive Out the Bush Regime is a Maoist-revolutionary movement/organization initiated and controlled by the Revolutionary Communist Party. (scroll down the list that appears (after clicking link) to find the World Can't Wait organization --rwor.org is the website of the Revolutionary Communist Party):
http://rwor.org/a/rwlink/links.htm

From David Horowitz's FrontpageMag.com /DiscoverTheNetworks.org:
Profile: World Can't Wait (WCW)

*Revolutionary communist movement that stages protests against the Bush administration

*Organizes college and high-school students

*Founded in June 2005 by Charles Clark Kissinger, a longtime leader of the Revolutionary Communist Party

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=7213

From the website of the Revolutionary Communist Party (revcom.us or rwor.org) :
"Create Public Opinion, Seize Power: We are preparing minds and organizing forces for the time when there is a major crack in the system, whenever it comes and wherever it comes from: an opening that makes it possible to bring the future Revolutionary Army of the Proletariat (R.A.P.) into the field and wage a revolutionary armed struggle that actually has a chance of winning. And we have said that building our party itself is the most important part of organizing forces for revolution. This is true now, and it is true looking forward to the creation of that future R.A.P. and the waging of that armed struggle.":
http://revcom.us/a/v20/1000-1009/1000/barw.htm

Also from the Revolutionary Communist Party website: "Tearing Up the U.S. Paper Tiger in Korea: How 300,000 Chinese Troops Snuck into Korea and Kicked the Ass of the U.S. Armed Forces" RW #1059, June 18, 2000:
http://rwor.org/a/v22/1052-059/1059/korea.htm

Here's the Revolutionary Communist Party (see link below) boasting of a FULL PAGE 'World Can't Wait--Drive Out the Bush Regime' ad of theirs which appeared in the New York Slimes.(either "rwor.org" or "revcom.us" takes you to the website of the Revolutionary Communist Party). The NY Times has since allowed several additional full-page RCP/WCW ads.
Article title: "Who Hated the Bush Step Down Ad in the New York Times? ...And what that Tells Us About Why We Must and How We Can Drive Out the Bush Regime"(actual title)
http://www.rwor.org/a/028/who-hated-bush-ad.htm

25 posted on 07/26/2008 6:29:26 AM PDT by ETL (Plenty of REAL smoking-gun evidence on the demonRats at my FR home page)
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To: equaviator

Put THAT in your gas tanks, Ohio’s 10th District!


26 posted on 07/26/2008 6:33:26 AM PDT by LRS (I want an oil glut!)
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To: yankeedame

Why the Republicans members simply don’t walk out in mass to protest such lunacy is beyond my understanding

Better if each one took his allotted time and said absolutely nothing; nothing but silence.


27 posted on 07/26/2008 6:37:26 AM PDT by sobieski
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To: commonguymd

Hah, you got it! Conyers has a big problem now that his old lady, Monica has been in the local news as of late. She’s not headlines ‘cause dat belong to Kwame “Hizzoner” Kilpatrick.
C’mon, Governor Granholm, do the right thing, wouldya? That whole camping trip is out of order. I can hear the guy on the FM radio station call-in show now...”Good morning, aks the Mayor...”


28 posted on 07/26/2008 6:37:44 AM PDT by equaviator ("There's a (datum) plane on the horizon coming in...see it?")
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To: equaviator

Criticism from liberals who have never been right on anything in the last 40 years.


29 posted on 07/26/2008 6:47:47 AM PDT by popdonnelly (Boycott Washington D.C. until they allow gun ownership)
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To: Popman

“The tone of these deliberations is slightly demented,” Rabkin said..”

Great observation but too reserved. Completely demented would be more accurate.


30 posted on 07/26/2008 6:48:44 AM PDT by y6162
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To: y6162

Things like this serve to remind us of what we know. The left is populated by vermin.


31 posted on 07/26/2008 6:55:33 AM PDT by ratwanggufebaw (The Earth is not my mother. The State is not my father.)
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To: y6162; equaviator; pnh102; Vaduz; snowman1; Laverne; Popman; Darkwolf377; Wil H; NOBAMA in 08; ...
I don't think y'all get it. The freaking CHAIRMAN of the House Judiciary Committee is on record endorsing a revolutionary communist organization! We need to push the wussy republicans into launching an investigation into him! Hell with all the other minor bullsh*t! Didn't anyone here read what I posted?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2051660/posts?page=25#25

32 posted on 07/26/2008 6:58:10 AM PDT by ETL (Plenty of REAL smoking-gun evidence on the demonRats at my FR home page)
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To: Vaduz

Poor bastards my ass. The people who voted these guys into office are just like them. Guys like Kucinich, Henchy, etc. think, smell an look just like the people who vote them in year after year. The people in Kucinich’s district are idiots just like him, each and every one of them. The big problem is that once in office, we can’t get rid of them.


33 posted on 07/26/2008 7:17:05 AM PDT by baiamonte
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To: NOBAMA in 08

You are being too kind.... < /s >


34 posted on 07/26/2008 7:18:26 AM PDT by Morgan in Denver (The "P" in Democrat stands for Patriot.......)
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To: equaviator

Dennis Kucinich’s goal is to tear down our country. He is also a member of The Workers Party.....a communist organization. Does anyone check into this stuff or really care? We need another McCarthy.


35 posted on 07/26/2008 7:20:06 AM PDT by RC2
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To: equaviator

And the Dems keep saying that only the Republicans are partisan.


36 posted on 07/26/2008 8:58:28 AM PDT by wildbill ( FR---changing history by erasing it from memory.)
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To: RC2
He is also a member of The Workers Party.....a communist organization. Does anyone check into this stuff or really care?

Re: "Dennis Kucinich is a member of The Workers Party".

Please don't make such specific claims without providing credible links and/or other evidence. It only acts to discredit the real info. Thanks.

37 posted on 07/26/2008 8:58:34 AM PDT by ETL (Plenty of REAL smoking-gun evidence on the demonRats at my FR home page)
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To: ETL

“I don’t think y’all get it. The freaking CHAIRMAN of the House Judiciary Committee is on record endorsing a revolutionary communist organization!”

No offense, but a Democrat endorsing a communist is hardly breaking news. It’s hard to get excited this news when it’s so common place.


38 posted on 07/26/2008 9:37:59 AM PDT by y6162
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To: y6162; All
Conyers is *on record* endorsing a known front for an organization which openly advocates the violent overthrow of the American government. There is more than enough evidence here to begin an investigation and/or impeachment proceedings against this SOB. It is certainly not 'common place' to have evidence like this so clearly laid out for all to see. What we need now is a republican with enough b*lls to take action.

From the website of the Revolutionary Communist Party (revcom.us or rwor.org) :
"Create Public Opinion, Seize Power: We are preparing minds and organizing forces for the time when there is a major crack in the system, whenever it comes and wherever it comes from: an opening that makes it possible to bring the future Revolutionary Army of the Proletariat (R.A.P.) into the field and wage a revolutionary armed struggle that actually has a chance of winning. And we have said that building our party itself is the most important part of organizing forces for revolution. This is true now, and it is true looking forward to the creation of that future R.A.P. and the waging of that armed struggle.":
http://revcom.us/a/v20/1000-1009/1000/barw.htm

Fact: World Can't Wait--Drive Out the Bush Regime is a Maoist-revolutionary movement/organization initiated and controlled by the Revolutionary Communist Party. (scroll down the list that appears (after clicking link) to find the World Can't Wait organization --rwor.org is the website of the Revolutionary Communist Party):
http://rwor.org/a/rwlink/links.htm

From David Horowitz's FrontpageMag.com /DiscoverTheNetworks.org:
Profile: World Can't Wait (WCW)

*Revolutionary communist movement that stages protests against the Bush administration

*Organizes college and high-school students

*Founded in June 2005 by Charles Clark Kissinger, a longtime leader of the Revolutionary Communist Party

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=7213

Click on the WCW link just below and see: "Endorsers of the Call to Drive Out the Bush Regime Include". Conyers' endorsement appears right after Ward Churchill's. Al Sharpton's, Maxine Waters and Jesse Jackson Jr's endorsements are also on the list:
http://worldcantwait.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2538&Itemid=2

And on Oct 5, 2006, demonRat chair of the House Judiciary Committee, John Conyers Jr, GAVE A SPEECH to the World Can't Wait--Drive Out the Bush Regime organization. Here's full-page coverage of it from the WCW website:
http://www.worldcantwait.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3114&Itemid=243

39 posted on 07/26/2008 10:08:03 AM PDT by ETL (Plenty of REAL smoking-gun evidence on the demonRats at my FR home page)
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To: ETL
The freaking CHAIRMAN of the House Judiciary Committee is on record endorsing a revolutionary communist organization! We need to push the wussy republicans into launching an investigation into him!

They can't. They're the minority. Even if they could, they're not going to. The left has done such a fine propaganda job of demonizing the McCarthy investigations, that if the Republicans attempted an investigation of any democrat with commie ties, they would get roasted.

Hell with all the other minor bullsh*t! Didn't anyone here read what I posted?

Who reads anything after my posts? ;-)

40 posted on 07/26/2008 11:36:51 AM PDT by lowbridge ("I have never learned to fight for my freedom. I was only good at enjoying it" - Van Den Boogaard)
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