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Obama getting bounce according to both Gallup and Rasmussen
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Posted on 07/26/2008 8:26:13 AM PDT by bumblethebee

Gallup now has Obama ahead 47-41 and Rasmussen has Obama leading by a 46-40 percent margin. Media bias is certainly a factor but McCain is running a campaign as thrilling as watching paint dry.


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Gallup now has Obama ahead 47-41 and Rasmussen has Obama leading by a 46-40 percent margin. Media bias is certainly a factor but McCain is running a campaign as thrilling as watching paint dry.
1 posted on 07/26/2008 8:26:13 AM PDT by bumblethebee
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To: bumblethebee

I watch paint dry for a living. I work for Sherwin-Williams. I can tell you first hand that watching paint dry is more exciting them listening to McCain.


2 posted on 07/26/2008 8:29:13 AM PDT by lookout88 (Combat search and rescue officer's dad.)
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Dukakis was up 17 right about now and was trounced.


3 posted on 07/26/2008 8:29:19 AM PDT by falcon1966
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To: bumblethebee

November is when it counts.


4 posted on 07/26/2008 8:29:55 AM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: lookout88

Bounce? LOL


5 posted on 07/26/2008 8:30:37 AM PDT by A. Morgan (VOTE FOR A LIBERAL N' WE'LL BE UP TO OUR NECKS IN ILLEGALS and OUTA' GAS!)
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To: falcon1966

The Media also has Dukakis leading McCain.


6 posted on 07/26/2008 8:31:07 AM PDT by xDGx
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To: bumblethebee

Some voters like what they see.

Obama will save the world.

Btw, where’s the BARF alert?


7 posted on 07/26/2008 8:31:10 AM PDT by Reagan Man ( McCain Wants My Conservative Vote in November --- EARN IT or NO DEAL !!!)
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To: bumblethebee

We need a coup at the convention.

I thought we were a conservative party, how could this bozo have gotten our nomination?

Take our party back!


8 posted on 07/26/2008 8:31:20 AM PDT by Taking Congress back in 2008
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To: bumblethebee

Well there goes the assumption the American people saw through his crap. If he gets a bounce for not visiting wounded troops, America is finished.


9 posted on 07/26/2008 8:31:33 AM PDT by Williams
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To: bumblethebee

I’m not that concerned about it. It may be a real bounce, but then again, it may not be. Remember, those figures are well within the daily ranges we’ve seen for both candidates for the last month or so. It may just be statistical noise.

Give it a week or two and then lets see what the numbers look like.


10 posted on 07/26/2008 8:31:47 AM PDT by VOR78
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To: bumblethebee
I don't see a bounce... he should be up by double digits! Six points is hardly worth all the hyped world tour!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

11 posted on 07/26/2008 8:31:59 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: falcon1966

Heard all this in 1996 when Clinton faced Bob Dole. Clinton was ahead...and stayed ahead.


12 posted on 07/26/2008 8:33:06 AM PDT by MuttTheHoople
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To: Williams

I doubt many people know about the fact that he skipped those visits...yet. The MSM isn’t going to give it much, if any airtime, so it’s going to be up to talk radio and word of mouth, and that’s going to take a little time.


13 posted on 07/26/2008 8:33:12 AM PDT by VOR78
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To: VOR78
Agreed.

Lets check again in two weeks and see if this bounce is anything meaningful.

14 posted on 07/26/2008 8:35:15 AM PDT by comebacknewt
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To: bumblethebee; lookout88

All of these polls are meaningless until mid September. Having said that it is going to take a miracle for McCain to win and I don’t see a miracle on the horizon.

By the way I don’t say that because of McCain. If a true conservative was the nominee I would say the same thing. It’s going to be tough to win this November.


15 posted on 07/26/2008 8:35:22 AM PDT by Artemis Webb ( OBAMA/HUCKABEE '08)
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To: bumblethebee

How tired did everybody get of the American Idol winners soon after they won?

I’m forecasting huge buyer’s remorse come 2009.


16 posted on 07/26/2008 8:35:40 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Thank God for every morning.)
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To: bumblethebee
All this skewed, fallible polling does is create fodder for DU'ers to scream in November about election theft under the banner of 'We were 10 points ahead in the polling, obviously this election was stolen!'

Meaningless, these polls.

17 posted on 07/26/2008 8:35:42 AM PDT by GreenAccord (Bacon Akbar!)
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To: MuttTheHoople

True, but Obama isn’t way ahead.


18 posted on 07/26/2008 8:36:00 AM PDT by comebacknewt
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To: bumblethebee

McCains campaign should ramp up after the dem convention
Afterall, he doesnt want to face thunderthighs in the fall
Wait and see, I think it will get very interesting.

A VOTE FOR MCCAIN IS A VOTE AGAINST OBAMA!!


19 posted on 07/26/2008 8:40:03 AM PDT by mouse1 (McCain 08)
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To: bumblethebee

McCain needs to wake up and do something dramatic. I mean really over the top to force the media to stop fawning over Obama for awhile. I was wondering if he should really ask Hillary to run as his VP. This would really shake things up. Just ask her to think about it and say he will not accept any answer as firm for a month. When the month is up then ceremoniously ad sadly accept her non-acceptance and pick someone else. Don’t think for a minute that I want Hillary as VP, we can’t take a chance of having to liberals in the White House. I am just talking about playing with the media. When McCain does pick a VP I sure hope he picks someone who can string more than two words together without losing their train of thought or stuttering. I would make quick wittedness and ability to speak better than Obama an important trait.


20 posted on 07/26/2008 8:40:31 AM PDT by TonyM (E)
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To: bumblethebee

Obama should be up by double digits with all the fawning MSM coverage, and then there are state polls showing that Obama is losing steam, but that will not stop the chicken littles from saying the sky is falling.


21 posted on 07/26/2008 8:41:31 AM PDT by DallasBiff
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To: bumblethebee

McCain had the right idea when he scheduled a visit to an oil rig in the Gulf of Mexico.

He should schedule another oil rig visit, or perhaps head to ANWR in Alaska for some fact finding.

Something energy focused.


22 posted on 07/26/2008 8:41:40 AM PDT by Edit35 (.)
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To: bumblethebee

Bogus link


23 posted on 07/26/2008 8:42:08 AM PDT by mylife (People That Blindly Follow Obama Are Barack "Suckers")
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To: MuttTheHoople

One cannot fairly compare 1996 to 2008. Clinton was the incumbent that year, during a fairly robust economy and low gas prices. There is no incumbent this year.


24 posted on 07/26/2008 8:42:47 AM PDT by library user (There's no sandwich like prawn sandwich.)
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To: bumblethebee
When you see stuff like this just ask yourself where barack mcgovern’s votes will come from? Ask hard questions. algore and frenchie had no problems with Jews and lost. Neither had trouble with women and lost. Neither had trouble with Hispanics and lost. Neither was even slightly appealing to White males. Does anyone older than 6 think barack mcgovern will even come close to the 22% of White males frenchie got?
algore won Catholics 50/47. frenchie had trouble with Catholics and lost with catholics 52/46. barack mcgovern has major trouble with catholics and in fact has quietly closed down is Catholic outreach because it was loaded with baby killers. B-mac is in favor of letting miracle abortion survivors die of starvation and dehydration in a slow and painful way. He won't do 40 with Catholics.
21 million people are veterans. McCain is winning them 56/37 and the 37 is questionable.
Where will his votes come from, the clearisil commandos? The ones that elected president algore and frenchie? Please!!
25 posted on 07/26/2008 8:42:48 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: bumblethebee

I wouldn’t matter if McCain were running a brilliant campaign. What the media is saying now is that while The Annointed Obama is making nice around the world, getting the furreners to love US again like they did before GW ruined the world, that nasty little McCain is trashing BHO like some yappy dog biting at His ankles. Content is irrelevant.


26 posted on 07/26/2008 8:43:31 AM PDT by Poincare
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To: DallasBiff

Yup, it’s the states that matter. Polls earlier in the week showed the Obamanation falling behind in Ohio. If that holds, he’s done.


27 posted on 07/26/2008 8:47:14 AM PDT by piytar
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To: bumblethebee

The media must be wetting their pants with delight.


28 posted on 07/26/2008 8:51:07 AM PDT by Pinkbell (”This guy is a jerk, an arrogant jerk. A Jerk Messiah.” - Rush talking about Obama)
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To: comebacknewt; MuttTheHoople
True, but Obama isn’t way ahead.

The other point is that almost all the polls right down to the very last day or two showed Clinton up by about 8% more than he actually won by.

29 posted on 07/26/2008 8:52:11 AM PDT by Sal (America sooo needs a do-over across the nomination board. None of the last 3!)
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To: Williams

Keep in mind that pollsters generally only poll folks on land lines. People with land lines are generally old-school, baby boomer types, not 18-35 in age. So if Obama is ahead this much with old folks, then that’s kind of scary.


30 posted on 07/26/2008 8:52:26 AM PDT by library user (There's no sandwich like prawn sandwich.)
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To: bumblethebee

Since I think Rasmussen is a 3 day average, it would be interesting to see if the numbers were up pre or post Berlin speech.


31 posted on 07/26/2008 8:52:38 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: jmaroneps37
the clearisil commandos?

LOL...what is the average turnout for the vote from this group? How many do you think will vote in November?

32 posted on 07/26/2008 8:53:02 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3 ('GOP' : Get Our Petroleum)
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To: Pinkbell
The last Democrat, Kerry, had a 15 point lead. So by historical standards, Obama is underperforming.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

33 posted on 07/26/2008 8:54:00 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Sal
Let's not forget that MSM polls generally understate Republican strength. So if we factor in corrections, the race is still tied! The overseas tour didn't change the political map all that much. Its nothing for the MSM to crow about.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

34 posted on 07/26/2008 8:56:23 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: falcon1966
Dukakis was up 17 right about now and was trounced.

Yes, but the old man then had Atwater. We don't have Atwater any more.

35 posted on 07/26/2008 8:57:32 AM PDT by nwrep (Obama - the first Mohammedan to run for the White House)
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To: jmaroneps37
Where will his votes come from, the clearisil commandos?

From the parasites and leeches

36 posted on 07/26/2008 8:58:09 AM PDT by mjp (Live & let live. I don't want to live in Mexico, Marxico, or Muslimico. Statism & high taxes suck)
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To: bumblethebee
campaign as thrilling as watching paint dry die.

There, fixed it

37 posted on 07/26/2008 8:59:38 AM PDT by beebuster2000
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To: goldstategop
Dukakis was up 17 right about now and was trounced.

Unfortunately this was the same faulty logic that led to cheers here in the summer of 2006 when the Democrats were "only" up a few points, when given the dire circumstances and Republican mistakes, they "should have" been up more. The trouble is, they held on to that slim lead all summer and fall and reclaimed Congress. We need a strategy to take back the lead, not smugness that it is a small lead for the opponent.

38 posted on 07/26/2008 8:59:53 AM PDT by nwrep (Obama - the first Mohammedan to run for the White House)
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To: Sal
Another good point. Most of the polls had WJC over 50% as well, and he finished just under it.

The bottom line is that this election has a long way to go. Those who can't follow the polls without getting worked up (for better or worse), probably need to find another hobby.

39 posted on 07/26/2008 9:02:23 AM PDT by comebacknewt
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To: bumblethebee

The media is going to hype Obama so much...that when the ballots are all cast and McCain wins...the libcom’s will cry foul! How could their candidate lose when the media is telling them he’s ahead...I mean the media is already acting like Obama is the winner.

And really, every presidential election from here on out will be in doubt. If a Republican wins, the left will be hurling lawsuits right and left to have the ballots recast in their favor...because they can. If a Demonrat wins, the left will be hurling lawsuits to supress any recounts...because they can.


40 posted on 07/26/2008 9:02:30 AM PDT by BrianInNC
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To: bumblethebee

Gee, I didn’t know McCain was even campaigning. I was even wondering when he would start.


41 posted on 07/26/2008 9:03:31 AM PDT by mel
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To: beebuster2000

The real polls are the internals that both campaigns pay good money to get by having their own pollsters. Obama’s
internals are saying he lost ground. Mccain’s show
a pattern of movement toward McCain. That is why Obama went
on the world tour and why they are sying things today at his
campaign that they believe Obama will take a dip next week.

If Gallop and Rasmussen was so good the canidates would use them instead of paying for internal pollsters.


42 posted on 07/26/2008 9:03:32 AM PDT by RED SOUTH
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To: xDGx

yes...but Bush I had the strength of Reagan behind him- McCain has nothing like that...McCain has got to make a move and make it fast....all this shows is how vulnerable hussien obama is and what a pathetic candidate he is....it means squat if McCain does not get his ass in gear...


43 posted on 07/26/2008 9:05:14 AM PDT by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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To: nwrep
Things can change... we still have to wait til fall to see how things shake down. You can bet the Left will do all it can to try make sure the election doesn't become a referendum on Obama.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

44 posted on 07/26/2008 9:05:17 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: bumblethebee
I think that the media will do polls to show the results they want. They are not going to show favorable to McCain. That defeats their purpose. We can only get “honest” polls from “independent” polling services, if there is such a thing. They will seek to turn off everyone that might be thinking of voting for McCain. I never ever trust polls.
45 posted on 07/26/2008 9:06:00 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (Obama is the biggest threat too your freedom, liberties and pocket book since FDR.)
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To: library user
Keep in mind that pollsters generally only poll folks on land lines. People with land lines are generally old-school, baby boomer types, not 18-35 in age. So if Obama is ahead this much with old folks, then that’s kind of scary.

Actually pollsters use random generated numbers and don't know if they are land line or celluar. Even land line numbers have caller id, except for the poorest people, so basically yoour point is moot, except in trying to induce panic.

46 posted on 07/26/2008 9:07:37 AM PDT by DallasBiff
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To: bumblethebee

I was in my company’s break room the other day. Obama was on the TV giving his Berlin speech. One guy said he gets goose bumps just hearing Obama speak. I said, “Just imagine how exciting it would be if he actually said something of substance!”


47 posted on 07/26/2008 9:08:15 AM PDT by gitmo (From now on, ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which I will not put.)
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To: RED SOUTH

just curious but how do you know what obama internal polls show?


48 posted on 07/26/2008 9:09:29 AM PDT by beebuster2000
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To: God luvs America
yes...but Bush I had the strength of Reagan behind him- McCain has nothing like that

WRONG! McCain has the super strength of the scariest, furthest to the left, emptiest suit ever running, , i.e. Obama, powering him.

49 posted on 07/26/2008 9:09:51 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: TornadoAlley3

Historically, young people vote at very low rates.

If they get excited enough about Obama, that could change this year.

These wouldn’t be switch voters, they would be new voters entering the system. A relatively small number could make a huge difference.


50 posted on 07/26/2008 9:10:44 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves. - A. Lincoln)
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