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Obama Caught in Web of Lies About Troop Snub
Saturday, July 26, 2008 | Kristinn

Posted on 07/26/2008 11:14:59 AM PDT by kristinn

At a morning press conference after a meeting with British Prime Minister Gordon Brown in London, Barack Obama got caught up in the web of lies his campaign has spun about the cancellation of his planned visit to wounded troops at Landstuhl Regional Medical Center in Germany on Friday.

Obama stated: "We had scheduled to go, we had no problem at all in leaving, we always leave press and staff off -- that is why we left it off the schedule."

Not true, Washington Post reported this morning: When Obama arrived in Germany on Thursday, a printed schedule said he would fly to the military hospital Friday. Asked at the time about the schedule, an Obama adviser said it was incorrect, that the stop had been considered but ultimately rejected.

The American news media would have let the cancellation go unmentioned were it not for Free Republic picking up on the blurb on Der Spiegel Thursday morning. As the story spread in the blogosphere the American media picked it up and the Obama campaign issued their first lie about the cancellation courtesy of spokesman Robert Gibbs:

"During his trip as part of the CODEL to Afghanistan and Iraq, Sen. Obama visited the combat support hospital in the Green Zone in Baghdad and had a number of other visits with the troops. For the second part of his trip, the senator wanted to visit the men and women at Landstuhl Regional Medical Center to express his gratitude for their service and sacrifice. The senator decided out of respect for these servicemen and women that it would be inappropriate to make a stop to visit troops at a U.S. military facility as part of a trip funded by the campaign.”

That lie was exposed by Obama himself today at the press conference:

"I was going to be accompanied by one of my advisors, a former military officer. And we got notice that he would be treated as a campaign person, and it would therefore be perceived as political because he had endorsed my candidacy but he wasn’t on the Senate staff."

Later on Thursday, the retired general Obama referenced, Air Force Maj. Gen. Scott Gration, who joined the Obama trip in Amman Jordan on O-Force One with the rest of the campaign staff and media, issued a second lying statement:

"We learned from the Pentagon last night that the visit would be viewed instead as a campaign event. Sen. Obama did not want to have a trip to see our wounded warriors perveived as a campaign event when his visit was to show his appreciation for our troops and decided instead not to go."

Gration lied by omission by not informing the press that he was the issue and instead blamed the Pentagon.

Friday morning, as O-Force One headed to Paris instead of Ramstein Air Force Base, the Obama campaign held three separate press briefings within forty-five minutes in an effort to spin their way out of the damaging snub of the wounded warriors at Landstuhl. A transcript of the briefing was posted at Fox News.

Again, spokesman Gibbs put the blame on the Pentagon:

"...it was pretty clear from the people at the Pentagon that the trip would be seen as a campaign stop."

Obama, in his press conference today tried to take himself out of the loop on the discussions about the visit to Landstuhl:

"The staff was working this so I don’t know each and every detail but here is what I understand happened,"

Here's what Gibbs said on Friday in the briefing:

"...This is all local time in Germany we made the decision in the air to not go. In the air from Tel Aviv, we talked about this on the ground, it was a very quick decision and as far, and I will double check this, I believe the call was made once we landed that we were not going to go."

And..."Sen. Obama decided having made that decision he was far more willing to take the criticism from some political people or political opponents in a political atmosphere than to put our troops in the middle of our campaitn (sic) back-and-forth."

Gration was on the plane with Obama. Gibbs makes clear that Obama was in on the decision and had analyzed the consequences.

Obama had no problem landing his campaign plane at Ramstein and neither did the Pentagon. Everyone knew the rules about no campaign staff or media accompanying Obama to nearby Landstuhl.

Yet, when the Pentagon enforced the rules by denying Gration access to Landstuhl with Obama, that's when Obama decided to cancel. The spin that Obama was concerned about the visit being seen as political is a lie.

Between the retired general's bruised ego and having to face the troops alone, Obama decided it was better to be seen snubbing the troops and to lie repeatedly about it to boot.

He even lied about the circumstances of his making phone calls to the wounded at Landstuhl on Friday:

"what we decided was that we not make a visit and instead I would call some of the troops that were there. So that essentially would be the extent of the story."

Not once in all the lying spinning statements by the Obama campaign did they say that Obama would be making phone calls to make up for the cancellation. The decision to make the phone calls was made after the obama had hit the fan.

This is all very strange, very un-presidential and very unbecoming of a man who wants to be commander-in-chief.

Update: Fox News' Bill Hemmer asked Obama if he thought it was a mistake to cancel the Landstuhl visit. Obama said, "No."


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Germany; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: blueturban; demlies; hospital; landstuhl; liar; obama; obamasbigadventure; obamavisit; snub; woundedtroops
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It's not the crime. It's the cover-up.
1 posted on 07/26/2008 11:14:59 AM PDT by kristinn
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To: kristinn

Good Job Kristinn


2 posted on 07/26/2008 11:17:40 AM PDT by mylife (People That Blindly Follow Obama Are Barack "Suckers")
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To: kristinn

He’s worse than the Clinton’s!


3 posted on 07/26/2008 11:18:55 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: kristinn

“........It’s not the crime. It’s the cover-up.........”

Obama could sacrifice his first born, BBQ her and the press would swoon about what a great cook he is.


4 posted on 07/26/2008 11:23:36 AM PDT by Islander7 ("Show me an honest politician and I will show you a case of mistaken identity.")
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To: kristinn
You are a stone in Obama's shoe! Great job!

be careful, please

5 posted on 07/26/2008 11:24:01 AM PDT by tiredoflaundry (While our brave troops are shooting Al qaeda , Obama is shooting hoops, over and over....)
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To: nmh

Since the Black Messiah is, obviously, the God-like candidate of the media, someone with gonads has got to expose this disastrous, hate-America liar.


6 posted on 07/26/2008 11:24:46 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: kristinn

When I read his words I hear “Tea for Two” playing in the background.


7 posted on 07/26/2008 11:24:48 AM PDT by Gumption
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To: nmh

I can not think of a person on the face of the earth that would be worse than BO.


8 posted on 07/26/2008 11:31:15 AM PDT by Big Horn (Foreigners do not tread on me.)
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To: kristinn
It's just Osama’s way of doing things. He hates everything to do with the military and the success they are are having in Iraq. Anything to make President Bush look good, is bad for the Democrats.
Furthermore, the MSM reporters don't mind Osama lying to us, the American public, but they go on the offensive when he lies to them. No matter what this politician does, it's for one objective, to be elected. Like McCain stated the other day, Obama is willing to lose the war just to win the election.
There you go democrats, your man in shining armor.
9 posted on 07/26/2008 11:33:54 AM PDT by antiunion person (President McCain--what a disgusting phrase.)
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To: kristinn
From the Fox link:

The decision that Sen. Obama made with that information was that we would not put our wounded men and women in that position of being involved in a campaign stop and therefore he made the decision not to make the stop.

Those maroons must think I am an idiot. ....we would not put our wounded men and women in that position of being involved in a campaign stop...

10 posted on 07/26/2008 11:34:14 AM PDT by freema (MarineNiece,Daughter,Wife,Friend,Sister,Friend,Aunt,Friend,Mother,Friend,Cousin, FRiend)
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To: kristinn
Excellent work, Kristinn. This is the type investigative citizen journalism that will take the place of the PIDS (paper information distribution systems, formerly called 'newspapers') and EBIDS (electronic broadcast information distribution systems, formerly called 'television news').

Mankind has nothing to fear with the demise of the Drive-By Media.

11 posted on 07/26/2008 11:35:24 AM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: kristinn
But that cannot be, see, because my local news media, in love with B. Hussein, said it was because of the PENTAGON that the Messiah was not permitted into the hospitals.

They even said B. Hussein Obama had "avoided major pitfalls" while on the foreign trip. See? The local media says he is the BEST. So it must be so.

12 posted on 07/26/2008 11:36:20 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (Just say NObama!)
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To: kristinn

Very good summary. It’s valuable to compile a timeline on such events before the leftists agree on which lie they’re going to use and issue marching orders to the media.


13 posted on 07/26/2008 11:37:19 AM PDT by Interesting Times (Swiftboating, you say? Check out ToSetTheRecordStraight.com)
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To: potlatch; kristinn



14 posted on 07/26/2008 11:38:30 AM PDT by devolve ( "Pot had helped, and booze; maybe a little blow when you could afford it." - Elect a cokehead *08 !)
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To: kristinn
Now that there is some 10 year Freeper analysis!

Congratulations on a decade (in 5 days) for being in the Right forum.

15 posted on 07/26/2008 11:38:49 AM PDT by Positive (Nothing is sadder than to see a beautiful theory murdered by a gang of brutal facts.)
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To: kristinn

bookmark and bump


16 posted on 07/26/2008 11:39:30 AM PDT by sandyeggo
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To: kristinn

Excellent work, Kristinn. I appreciate you staying on top of this incident.


17 posted on 07/26/2008 11:41:21 AM PDT by exit82 (People get the government they deserve--and they are about to get it --in spades.)
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To: devolve

Good post devolve!
I’m looking for a certain background, it’s a job, lol.


18 posted on 07/26/2008 11:41:55 AM PDT by potlatch (MICHELLE OBAMA - The gift that just keeps on giving....!)
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To: kristinn
The reason he canceled was because he couldn't bring cameras and the media.

That Marxist Puke couldn't care less about honoring our troops!

19 posted on 07/26/2008 11:42:43 AM PDT by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: kristinn
Between the retired general's bruised ego and having to face the troops alone, Obama decided it was better to be seen snubbing the troops and to lie repeatedly about it to boot.

“There is no vice... so contemptible; he who permits himself to tell a lie once, finds it much easier to do it a second and a third time, till at length it becomes habitual...” Thomas Jefferson


20 posted on 07/26/2008 11:43:20 AM PDT by Donald Rumsfeld Fan ("Sincerity is everything. If you can fake that, you’ve got it made." Groucho Marx)
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To: abb
"Excellent work, Kristinn. This is the type investigative citizen journalism that will take the place of the PIDS (paper information distribution systems, formerly called 'newspapers') and EBIDS (electronic broadcast information distribution systems, formerly called 'television news')."

Dittos on congratulating Kristinn.

Nice term "Citizen Journalism."

As for PIDS and EBIDS, I would change those to PDIDS and EBDDS...that would be due to the "disinformation" instead of "information."

21 posted on 07/26/2008 11:46:08 AM PDT by Positive (Nothing is sadder than to see a beautiful theory murdered by a gang of brutal facts.)
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To: kristinn

Did I hear them floating yet another lie about this Thursday evening as I was channel surfing past Fox News? It seems to me that I heard someone saying the Obama camp claimed McCain had called the Pentagon, pressuring them to not allow the Landstuhl visit.


22 posted on 07/26/2008 11:46:36 AM PDT by lonevoice (John McCain was a Kinoki foot pad in the Reagan Revolution)
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To: kristinn

bookmark


23 posted on 07/26/2008 11:50:24 AM PDT by DocRock (All they that TAKE the sword shall perish with the sword. Matthew 26:52 Gun grabbers beware.)
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To: devolve

That boy’s expression while accepting the flag just rips your heart out.


25 posted on 07/26/2008 11:52:27 AM PDT by vietvet67
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To: vietvet67
That boy’s expression while accepting the flag just rips your heart out.

You got that right. Amazing photo.

26 posted on 07/26/2008 11:57:47 AM PDT by Donald Rumsfeld Fan ("Sincerity is everything. If you can fake that, you’ve got it made." Groucho Marx)
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To: lonevoice

That’s been out there, too, as a rumor they’re spreading. Their bullschitt is getting pretty desperate and pathetic.


27 posted on 07/26/2008 11:58:09 AM PDT by VOR78
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To: devolve; ntnychik; kristinn; dixiechick2000; MeekOneGOP; PhilDragoo; FARS
Obam-ah-ah-ah...


28 posted on 07/26/2008 11:58:26 AM PDT by potlatch (MICHELLE OBAMA - The gift that just keeps on giving....!)
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To: kristinn
"The spin that Obama was concerned about the visit being seen as political is a lie."

That pretty much says it all. Great job.

29 posted on 07/26/2008 11:58:27 AM PDT by AGreatPer (If it's in the Yellow Pages our government shouldn't get involved.)
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To: landerwy

Unfortunately, the email from a soldier in Afghanistan has already been debunked at snopes.com.

It would be a useful story to have out there, if it were true, but we don’t want to try to rely on fake stories and false emails to beat this guy.

There is plenty of true stuff about the guy that we can use to beat him. No need to make stuff up.

Snopes link here:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/afghanistan.asp


30 posted on 07/26/2008 12:01:18 PM PDT by Prime Mover
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To: Prime Mover

Thanks I’ll try and get it removed!


31 posted on 07/26/2008 12:03:13 PM PDT by landerwy ("A republic, if you can keep it")
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To: lonevoice
Did I hear them floating yet another lie about this Thursday evening as I was channel surfing past Fox News? It seems to me that I heard someone saying the Obama camp claimed McCain had called the Pentagon, pressuring them to not allow the Landstuhl visit.

I believe that was Andrea Mitchell "reporting" a rumor.

32 posted on 07/26/2008 12:05:57 PM PDT by Neverforget01
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To: kristinn
"Bill Hemmer asked Obama if he thought it was a mistake to cancel the Landstuhl visit. Obama said, "No."

The Messiah never makes a mistake!

33 posted on 07/26/2008 12:09:28 PM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Global Warming Theory is extremely robust with respect to data. All observations confirm it)
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To: lonevoice
I believe that was the old drone Andrea Mitchel trying her best to cover Obama’s butt.
34 posted on 07/26/2008 12:11:15 PM PDT by mimaw
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To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan

Had to get the story behind that photo as I’d somehow missed it.

The photographer’s comment under the picture says it all.

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=3140316


35 posted on 07/26/2008 12:12:29 PM PDT by vietvet67
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To: kristinn

He was afraid to face the troops alone because he knows they know he’s a phony who has done everything he could to undermine them.

He’s giving all sorts of signals (like telling Petraeus he needs the money spent on Iraq for other things) as to what he intends to do to the military if he is elected.


36 posted on 07/26/2008 12:12:49 PM PDT by BusterBear
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To: kristinn; All
Did ya ever think someone would come along that would make Hitlery look like a good candidate? I never did!
37 posted on 07/26/2008 12:12:53 PM PDT by proudofthesouth (Homosexuality IS a choice! There isn't any biological reason for it. They CHOOSE to be that way!)
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To: BusterBear
He was afraid he would have to visit white troops and show some concern.

Obama is a racists, why else associate with known racists for most of his life.

38 posted on 07/26/2008 12:15:08 PM PDT by OKIEDOC (OBAMA aka Post Turtle the Forest Gump of American Politics ABORTION -Liberal Child Abuse.)
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To: kristinn
Bravo, Kristinn! Of course Barry the Jerk didn't make a mistake—he doesn't even sweat.
39 posted on 07/26/2008 12:15:57 PM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: landerwy
Thanks I’ll try and get it removed!

That's one of the strenghs of the internet in general and FR in particular. It's self correcting. And in real time to boot.

40 posted on 07/26/2008 12:16:59 PM PDT by Donald Rumsfeld Fan ("Sincerity is everything. If you can fake that, you’ve got it made." Groucho Marx)
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To: proudofthesouth
Did ya ever think someone would come along that would make Hitlery look like a good candidate? I never did!

Mrs. Clinton looks like a Girl Scout next to this jerk.
42 posted on 07/26/2008 12:18:45 PM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: hdstmf

What a disgusting remark.


43 posted on 07/26/2008 12:20:25 PM PDT by ShandaLear (Extremists always meet each other full circle.)
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To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan; kristinn
"There is no vice... so contemptible; he who permits himself to tell a lie once, finds it much easier to do it a second and a third time, till at length it becomes habitual..." Thomas Jefferson

Great quote. I thought I'd seen it all with Slick Willie, but Obama hasn't even been elected yet, yet I think he might have already lied more times in the last 6 months than Clinton did in 8 years. He lies, he sees that the press never holds him accountable for his lies, so he lies more and more, enabled by his willing media sycophants. The "MSM" is truly disgusting and frightening.

Great job tying all that Liebama information together, Kristinn. It must feel great to put something together like that, knowing it will reach thousands of people on this site, who will then forward the information to other people. Another fork in the eye of the shameless scum propagandists in the leftist media.

44 posted on 07/26/2008 12:26:18 PM PDT by smedley64 (UHbUHmUH- The incoherent candidate.)
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To: kristinn
I think Obama knew he would have a bad time with the troops at the Landstuhl Regional Medical Center. I am reminded of what happened at Bremerton Navel Hospital during the Viet Nam War. There was John Kerry on the TV throwing his medals away in Washington DC. As these wounded men watched this traitorous act, some were threatening to throw their crutches through the TV. Others were shouting obscenities and crying. If John Kerry had walked in the room, they would have taken off their false legs and beaten him with them.

I am sure Obama would have received a poor reception.

45 posted on 07/26/2008 12:26:24 PM PDT by jonrick46
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To: kristinn

“what we decided was that we not make a visit and instead I would call some of the troops that were there. So that essentially would be the extent of the story.”

Here Obama is openly retroactively lying about how in the past they plotted to manage a story so he could get out of meeting the injured.

This guy is worse that John Kerry.


46 posted on 07/26/2008 12:27:49 PM PDT by Shermy ( Flobots, Handlebars, if that record isn't about Obama, who?)
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To: potlatch; PhilDragoo; ntnychik; MeekOneGOP; Jeff Head; Travis McGee; Grampa Dave


Thanks potlatch - You'll find it!



Obama's National Security Force



47 posted on 07/26/2008 12:29:44 PM PDT by devolve ( "Pot had helped, and booze; maybe a little blow when you could afford it." - Elect a cokehead *08 !)
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To: potlatch
The media sings to Obama...

Tell me lies Tell me sweet little lies (tell me lies, tell me, tell me lies) Oh, no, no you cant disguise (you cant disguise, no you cant disguise) Tell me lies Tell me sweet little lies

BOHICA...

48 posted on 07/26/2008 12:30:46 PM PDT by ~Vor~
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To: devolve

National Security force huh? Yeah, I know they are protecting him. Scary looking ‘graduates’ there!!


49 posted on 07/26/2008 12:37:26 PM PDT by potlatch (MICHELLE OBAMA - The gift that just keeps on giving....!)
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To: lonevoice

Andrea Mitchell stated that the Obama camp suspected it was McCain who suggested the Pentagon not allow Obama to visit.

Spreading the rumor only made Obama look worse, if that was possible.

It is simply not something McCain would have or could have done.


50 posted on 07/26/2008 12:39:03 PM PDT by Carley
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