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Why Is Autism Rate So High For Somalis In Minn.?
wcco.com ^ | July 25, 2008 | Amelia Santaniello

Posted on 07/26/2008 11:24:37 AM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

MINNEAPOLIS (WCCO) ― Their colorful shops line the streets, catering to their own culture and drawing in ours. Beginning in 1993, Somali people began arriving in Minnesota from refugee camps in Kenya. By that time, Somalia's political chaos had led to the killing or starvation of many of its people.

For refugees, Minneapolis offered a place to start a new life, a new business, or a new family.

"Many things attracted Somalis to Minnesota to stay. Good health cover and good education," said Huda Farah.

Farah works on refugee resettlement with the Minnesota Department of Health. It's through her work that she's noticed something troubling within her community.

"We're seeing (an) increased number in autism," she said.

Reporter Amelia Santaniello asked her, "Is there autism in Somalia?"

"Not many, not many," replied Farah.

The Minneapolis School District is seeing a higher than expected rate of autism in its early childhood special education classrooms too.

"It's so glaring here in Minneapolis, I couldn't not see it," said Anne Harrington.

Harrington has been identifying kids on the autism spectrum for Minneapolis Schools for over 20 years.

"We have seen a tremendous number of children that are Somali, but born here in the United States or in Minneapolis who have autism," she said.

Out of 100 children in the Minneapolis Schools early childhood special education classroom program for autism, 25 percent of them are Somali. The district as a whole has only about 6 percent of students who speak or hear Somali language at home.

(Excerpt) Read more at wcco.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: aliens; autism; disorders; immigration; psychology; refugees; savage; somalia; specialed

1 posted on 07/26/2008 11:24:37 AM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

They can’t make this stuff up.


2 posted on 07/26/2008 11:29:31 AM PDT by Luke21
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Executive summary:

Why Is Autism Rate So High For Somalis In Minn.?

"Many things attracted Somalis to Minnesota to stay. Good health cover and good education," said Huda Farah.

3 posted on 07/26/2008 11:32:21 AM PDT by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Is autism to the 2000’s what ADD was to the 80’s and 90’s?


4 posted on 07/26/2008 11:32:44 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Someone needs to ping Michael Wiener.


5 posted on 07/26/2008 11:32:49 AM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Researcher sees link between vitamin D, autism
6 posted on 07/26/2008 11:33:30 AM PDT by Varda
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To: vetvetdoug

I guess the answer is you get more welfare if your children are autistic?


7 posted on 07/26/2008 11:34:19 AM PDT by WilliamReading
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To: Free ThinkerNY
I was about to blow this article off as the lefts sympathy play for the new "ADD" being Autism.

This line appeared in the article made me reconsider.

She added that because of poor recordkeeping in those camps, some Somalis receive the same vaccinations three and four times.

I'm not one to buy into conspiracy theories, but there might be more here than meets the eye.

9 posted on 07/26/2008 11:38:13 AM PDT by Popman (McCain as POTUS is odious, Obama as POTUS is unthinkable.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY; NFHale

I smell a huge class action government
bail out subsidy entitlement lawsuit thingy.

Criminal taxation gives me a headache.
Can I file a class action suit?


10 posted on 07/26/2008 11:40:42 AM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: WilliamReading
I guess the answer is you get more welfare if your children are autistic?

Howie Carr once had a great article about how there was a high incidence of ADD in certain school systems because the children's parents would get extra money. They were called crazy checks and once one family got the ADD spread like an epidemic through the neighborhood.

12 posted on 07/26/2008 11:53:45 AM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Lutefisk?


13 posted on 07/26/2008 11:57:26 AM PDT by Reaganesque
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To: Varda

Anecdotally, that makes sense, they obviously get less sunlight in Minnesota.


14 posted on 07/26/2008 11:57:52 AM PDT by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

America will be the case study in the future — showing just how many human “pollutants” one can inject into a highly evolved society until that society is effectively destroyed and driven to decline....

It’s happened to civilizations before — and America isn’t immune.


15 posted on 07/26/2008 11:57:54 AM PDT by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
"Many things attracted Somalis to Minnesota to stay. Good (free) health cover and good (free) education," said Huda Farah.

Corrected the sentence

Beginning in 1993................

It would an interesting study to see what percentage of first generation Somalis who arrived in 1993 (15 years ago) are self sustaining ???

My guess would be "zero"

Someone correct me if I am wrong, I truly hope I am

16 posted on 07/26/2008 11:58:05 AM PDT by Popman (McCain as POTUS is odious, Obama as POTUS is unthinkable.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

What percentage of Somalis in MN are on welfare?


17 posted on 07/26/2008 12:02:28 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Drill Here. Drill Now. Pay Less.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Why Is Autism Rate So High For Somalis In Minn.?

#1. The diagnostic criteria for autism have become more lax which allows for inclusion of more cases that would not have previously been diagnosed autistic, i.e., "autism spectrum disorders". (The Twin Cities are THE hotbed for the dreaded "Aspberger's Syndrome" diagnosis).

#2. Application of the criteria across cultural lines may not lead to accurate diagnosis, i.e., do the criteria even apply to other cultures in hellholes like Somalia?

18 posted on 07/26/2008 12:03:34 PM PDT by johniegrad
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Minnesota seems a natural destination for Somalian immigrants...no doubt reminds them of home.


19 posted on 07/26/2008 12:04:58 PM PDT by palomonte
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To: antiunion person

I would believe Inbreeding!!!!!

Plus what Michael Savage said....Muslim kids are not made to behave...they are the worst brats you have ever seen. I could see that people would think they are suffering from “Autism”.


20 posted on 07/26/2008 12:05:14 PM PDT by Morgana (Muslims...............I can't believe these people are that crazy without alcohol!)
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To: Morgana

Well, the security guard up at our Arts Center would agree with you about the kids’ behavior.

They have a lot of events there for our many immigrant friends and he warned me one day about the kids.

He was totally disgusted.


21 posted on 07/26/2008 12:14:43 PM PDT by altura (Old age ain't great, but it beats the alternative -- so does McCain.)
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To: Morgana
Muslim kids are not made to behave...they are the worst brats you have ever seen. I could see that people would think they are suffering from “Autism”.

I had the unfortunate employment for two years working with many Palestinians and other assorted ME immigrants and got to meet many of their children

The Muslim children, I have known could not be classified with “Autism” simply because they were the most out of control children I have ever meet. Their parents seemed oblivious to how rude, obnoxious, disrespectful they are. The boys especially are basically not held to any accountability until they reach adulthood, then they are expected to act like a good Muslims

Most Autism children I have meet, which are not that many, are simply anti-social, not miscreants like the offspring of these barbarians.

22 posted on 07/26/2008 12:15:47 PM PDT by Popman (McCain as POTUS is odious, Obama as POTUS is unthinkable.)
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To: johniegrad
There are different levels of autism, some kids can function in the classroom with minimal support, others can't. Better to identify them early then they can get needed resources so they can get with the program of functioning in society. Just reality, alternative is to warehouse them it prisons or similiar settings. Parents play a big part in the picture too.

Personally, I think the higher levels are a result of genetics, chromosone damage which damges the genes, ect. Look around, in any race there are higher autism levels in this family or that; just like mental illness.

In many Indian Villages, you have FAS levels around 85%. Some of the kids do ok; others are dead before 25. The most successful ones are the kids who have been identified early and receive proper treatment/preparation for life in general. Indians try to make a place for them within the village; get them into a training program so they can be useful members of the local community. The ones that get treatment usually make it; and don't become a burden to society. Different levels of FAS too; I've seen some kids beat the FAS problems and go onto to college.

23 posted on 07/26/2008 12:25:28 PM PDT by Eska
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To: Popman
I was about to blow this article off as the lefts sympathy play for the new "ADD" being Autism. This line appeared in the article made me reconsider. She added that because of poor recordkeeping in those camps, some Somalis receive the same vaccinations three and four times. I'm not one to buy into conspiracy theories, but there might be more here than meets the eye. If there's anything to all that stuff, this would be the perfect case study. All of those people had to recieve multiple vaccinations as a requisite of their coming over here. Seems like a perfect opening for some actual reearch for a change.
24 posted on 07/26/2008 12:33:12 PM PDT by Blackyce (President Jacques Chirac: "As far as I'm concerned, war always means failure.")
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To: Free ThinkerNY; nuconvert

If you are covered by a burka you do not get much sun on the skin, and if they have pigmented skin they need more radiation in other to produce vitamin D. Heureka! Another reason to bury the Muslim tradition.


25 posted on 07/26/2008 12:35:01 PM PDT by AdmSmith
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To: Eska
Personally, I think the higher levels are a result of genetics, chromosone damage which damges the genes, ect.

First one has to decide whether the prevalence of the disease has actually changed or not. The simplest way to increase the number of people diagnosed with a disorder is to relax the way the diagnosis is reached. Let me give you an example. The prevalence of appendicitis is easy to ascertain because the end result of a successful appendectomy is a pathological tissue report that proves the diagnosis. Similar information exists for any medical condition that results in observable changes in tissues and organs. The prevalence of autism is more difficult to establish because there is no clinicopathological correlate, i.e., there is no recognizable and observable tissue change that results from the "disease"

The prevalence of autism or autism spectrum disorders is entirely dependent on what criteria are used to diagnosis it. The more concrete and reliable (in terms of inter-rater reliability or the ability of more than one rater to reach the same diagnosis using the same criteria) the diagnostic criteria for the disorder, the lower the prevalence of the disorder will be. The less concrete and reliable the diagnostic criteria, the higher the prevalence of the disorder will be.

Psychiatric diagnoses are, for the most part, reached by use of diagnostic criteria. Some of the criteria result in high reliability and here I am referring to making diagnoses for conditions such as schizophrenia and manic depressive illness (bipolar disorder).

This does not necessarily make psychiatric diagnoses less "real". The same process of using agreed upon diagnostic criteria for illness exists in other conditions also, such as systemic lupus erythematosis (SLE). The diagnostic reliability of criteria used in psychiatric diagnoses varies a great deal with highly reliable criteria as pointed out above to much less reliable criteria such as those used to diagnosis personality disorders, childhood mental illness (in which separate criteria often do not exist which distinguish them from adult forms of the illness), and autism spectrum disorders.

The articles first error is assuming that simply because a disorder appears to have a higher prevalence rate for a group of patients that that is actually the case. This is totally dependent on the criteria used to diagnose the disorder and they have been loosened up in the case of autism spectrum disorders to identify more patients with the disorder.

The second error in the article is the assumption that using criteria for this disorder established by the American Psychiatric Association is applicable to this population of patients. I have been practicing psychiatry now since 1979 and have practiced in other cultures because of my time in the Navy. I can tell you that not all the criteria used to diagnose mental illnesses applies to all cultures.

Having said all of that, it could be possible that children of Somali immigrants to this country have a higher risk of autism than others groups. It could also be possible that Somali children brought to this country may have a higher prevalence of autism than the general population. However, since the speculative information in this article accounts neither for the relaxation of how the disorder is diagnosed nor for the potential cross cultural difference between the populations, the point is entirely moot, that is, without further clarification there is no reason to believe that these Somalis in the Twin Cities school system actually have a higher prevalence of the disorder.

26 posted on 07/26/2008 12:54:03 PM PDT by johniegrad
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To: NativeNewYorker

Simple answer: Mo’ Money


27 posted on 07/26/2008 1:08:52 PM PDT by MissEdie (On the Sixth Day God created Spurrier)
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To: Popman

I doubt that you are wrong. In Columbia, SC a few years ago a church sponsored a group of Somalis to come and live there. They helped get them housing, jobs, and the kids into schools. The last thing I heard was that most of them had quit the jobs they had and the nice new apartments they had been given had been turned into roach/rat infested dumps.


28 posted on 07/26/2008 1:11:55 PM PDT by MissEdie (On the Sixth Day God created Spurrier)
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To: Popman

It sounds like being a typical aggressive arrogant Muslim Male gets you labeled as “Apsberger syndrome” in Minneapolis.


29 posted on 07/26/2008 2:11:38 PM PDT by tbw2 (Freeper sci-fi - "Sirat: Through the Fires of Hell" - on amazon.com)
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To: tiki; Free ThinkerNY
Anecdotally, that makes sense, they obviously get less sunlight in Minnesota.

Vitamin D deficiency. It does make sense. Dark-skinned people from a sun-rich environment moving to a northern climate.

30 posted on 07/26/2008 2:25:52 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (I am voting for McCain because he is white.)
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To: MissEdie

Why would a church sponsor Somalis? They are culturally antithetical to the American society. It they wanted to sponsor Africans why not Christian Sudanese who make excellent citizens?


31 posted on 07/26/2008 2:42:30 PM PDT by Melchior
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To: Free ThinkerNY

A better question is “Why are tax rates so high for Americans in Minn.?”

And this article is a good answer.


32 posted on 07/26/2008 4:12:02 PM PDT by CGTRWK
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To: NativeNewYorker
racsims /s
the correct answer is follow the money ..
33 posted on 07/26/2008 4:16:58 PM PDT by Kid Shelleen (All things shall be well; You shall see for yourself that all manner of things shall be well)
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To: Jo Nuvark

Somolalis are a very entitled tribe of people who are well hated on the African continent for their deceitful and self promoting ways. Out of all the wonderful tribes in Africa who could have settled here in the States, the Somolis were not a good choice. They used all systems they could in Africa and are doing the same here.


34 posted on 07/26/2008 6:16:32 PM PDT by Chickensoup ('08 VOTING, NOT for the GOP, but INSTEAD, for the SUPREME COURT that will be BEST for my FAMILY!!)
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To: Melchior
For some reason (Christian charity I believe) they wanted to try and help the Somalis after seeing a film or documentary of their plight. Proof yet again that no good deed goes unpunished.
35 posted on 07/27/2008 6:37:23 AM PDT by MissEdie (On the Sixth Day God created Spurrier)
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To: MissEdie


Somebody please tell me why can’t the Somalis turn Somalia into a nice place to live?

It’s their responsibility to improve their own God-given country - not mine! I’m already busy enough trying to pay the taxes to cover the free health care costs of Obama voters.


36 posted on 07/27/2008 1:31:35 PM PDT by Transformers
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Radio Host Michael Savage Says Autistic Kids Aren’t Sick...”Just Brats”
AutismSpeaks.org | July 18, 2008 | Steve and Ryan Young
Posted on 07/20/2008 6:50:43 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2048356/posts

Savage Stands by Autistic Remarks
NEW YORK TIMES | July 21 08 | JAQUES STEINBERG
Posted on 07/21/2008 11:23:49 AM PDT by camerakid400
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2048903/posts

Michael Savage almost right about Autism
MainestateGOP Blog | 7/23/08 | MainestateGOP
Posted on 07/23/2008 11:24:54 AM PDT by mainestategop
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2050065/posts

Network Won’t Fire Michael Savage
Newsmax | July 24, 2008 | Staff
Posted on 07/24/2008 1:47:42 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2050755/posts

A Savage Attack: Why Michael Savage is wrong about Autism
& why Conservatives shouldn’t support him.
National Review ^ | July 24, 2008 | John J. Pitney Jr.
Posted on 07/26/2008 12:06:03 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2051794/posts

S.F. protest against Savage’s autism remarks
San Francisco Chronicle | 7/28/8 | Robert Selna
Posted on 07/28/2008 7:49:59 AM PDT by SmithL
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2052497/posts


37 posted on 07/28/2008 11:29:09 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_________________________Profile updated Friday, May 30, 2008)
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To: neverdem

?


38 posted on 07/28/2008 11:29:29 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_________________________Profile updated Friday, May 30, 2008)
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To: SunkenCiv; Incorrigible
IMHO, they have a diagnostic mess made worse by a cultural incompatibility. I have only read the excerpt.
39 posted on 07/28/2008 11:58:05 PM PDT by neverdem (I'm praying for a Divine Intervention.)
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To: neverdem

Yep.

Reading through some of these replies though I’m wondering where the welfare gravy train is for my son!


40 posted on 07/29/2008 7:47:17 AM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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