Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Four Iowan's Attempt Citizen's Arrest On Karl Rove
All Headline News ^ | July 26, 2008 | Amy Beeman

Posted on 07/27/2008 6:22:32 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin

Des Moines, Iowa (AHN) -- Four people were arrested Friday for attempting to make a citizen's arrest on Karl Rove.

The group of three Catholic workers and a retired Methodist minister and Peace and Justice Advocate were cited for trespassing and released after trying to enter the Wakonda Country Club in Des Moines where Rove was scheduled to speak at a Republican Fundraiser.

The small group were acting under Iowa law that states private citizens have a responsibility to arrest someone if they believe a felony has been committed. That person is then turned over to police officials and a judge for formal indictment. Under the law a federal judge must evaluate the charges and decide if an indictment should be made.

This is the second attempt by two members of the group to arrest Rove, whom many believe should be held accountable, along with other members of the Bush administration, for war crimes, murder and lies to the public related to the Iraq war.

The retired minister, Rev. Chet Guinn, 80, told reporters who were on site for the pre-arranged arrest that everyone who remains silent when major crimes are being committed against all humanity becomes an accomplice.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Iowa
KEYWORDS: apostropheabuse; moonbats; nutburgeralert
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-63 next last
All-righty, then!
1 posted on 07/27/2008 6:22:32 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Diana in Wisconsin

Well..............every society has it’s loonies. Unfortunately, ours has it’s own “party” and press.


2 posted on 07/27/2008 6:26:21 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW ("Make yourself sheep, and the wolves will eat you" Benjamin Franklin)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Diana in Wisconsin

This isn’t a news article. It is a press release from communists.


3 posted on 07/27/2008 6:28:35 AM PDT by rogue yam
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Diana in Wisconsin

those same people can be sued for false arrest and false imprisonment as well as a list of other offences. really stupid.


4 posted on 07/27/2008 6:28:46 AM PDT by television is just wrong
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Diana in Wisconsin

Liberals are just weird.


5 posted on 07/27/2008 6:30:49 AM PDT by Allegra (Ain't it grand? I'm back in the sand...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Diana in Wisconsin
Rev. Chet Guinn, 80

I see they are sending in the young bucks to do the work.

6 posted on 07/27/2008 6:32:15 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Diana in Wisconsin

Rev. Chet Guinn - you sir, are a stupid jerk!

Saddam Hussein repeatedly violated an Armistice he signed at the end of Desert Storm. We had every right under Internation Law to go into Iraq and resume the war.

After about 16 UN resolutions, I don’t understand how you can be so stupid, sir, as to believe the Main Stream Media and THEIR lies!!


7 posted on 07/27/2008 6:32:28 AM PDT by SatinDoll (Desperately desiring a conservative government.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Diana in Wisconsin
" ... acting under Iowa law that states private citizens have a responsibility to arrest someone if they believe a felony has been committed ... "


Surely Iowans have a similar law that provides for the netting of individuals, or groups, that show obvious mental defects, and may be a harm to themselves or others?


Vote smart ... stay informed

8 posted on 07/27/2008 6:33:16 AM PDT by G.Mason (Duty, Honor, Country)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: rogue yam

is there anything she missed in describing the ‘crimes’ that Rove and the Administration committed? I thought Kucinich was writing the article.


9 posted on 07/27/2008 6:37:23 AM PDT by go-ken-go (i)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Allegra

No, they are tyrants.
This was an act of frustrated tyrants.
If this were Rome, they would have tried to stab Mr. Rove with daggers.

Now, when two people meet to plan a crime, even if it is a misdemeanor like jay walking, that planning becomes a felony called conspiracy.

I really, really hope these tyrants are charged with conspiracy. Acts such as these are terroristic in nature and meant to intimidate the opponents of these communists from speaking and acting in opposition.


10 posted on 07/27/2008 6:40:08 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (If Hillary is elected, her legacy will be telling the American people: Better put some ice on that.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Diana in Wisconsin

They say history repeats itself - first time as tragedy and second time as farce.

I think the situation here is the reverse. Right now this is all hardy-har-har - My guess there may come a day when we see this being done for real. Pinochet, Milosevic, and now Karadicz - Bush and Rove later on? There are now books about how Bush is guilty of “war crimes”. I see real problems ahead.


11 posted on 07/27/2008 6:40:23 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: television is just wrong; SpinnerWebb
those same people can be sued for false arrest and false imprisonment as well as a list of other offences. really stupid.

They have already been added to the official tx_eggman

People Who Need To Be Punched In The Face List®

12 posted on 07/27/2008 6:42:16 AM PDT by tx_eggman (Privatizing profits and socializing losses is no way to run an economy)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

That doesn’t dispute the fact that liberals are just weird.


13 posted on 07/27/2008 6:43:55 AM PDT by Allegra (Ain't it grand? I'm back in the sand...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: Diana in Wisconsin

Wow, moonbats hunting its prey. What an amazing moment in moonbatology. Its all part of nature folks, nothing to be afraid of. Its not like the moonbats can actually catch there prey, but it is fascinating to watch them flail about.


14 posted on 07/27/2008 6:44:34 AM PDT by kb2614 (Hell hath no fury than a bureaucrat scorned)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe
Acts such as these are terroristic in nature and meant to intimidate the opponents of these communists from speaking and acting in opposition.

What's particularly sick is that apparently this is the second time two of those idiots tried to do this.

Lock 'em up, I say.

15 posted on 07/27/2008 6:45:53 AM PDT by Allegra (Ain't it grand? I'm back in the sand...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: Diana in Wisconsin

“The group of three Catholic workers and a retired Methodist minister and Peace and Justice Advocate...”

Why aren’t they making citizen’s arrest on any Catholic priest for possible complicity in possible child sex abuse case?

I am joking, of course.

Man, this shows you how extensive this condition of Bush Derangement Syndrome has become.


16 posted on 07/27/2008 6:47:35 AM PDT by Ben Reyes ('A Purpose-Driven Agenda', a new book by Rick Warren, a wolf in sheep clothing)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten

Diana is right on. This is just an apparently silly beginning that will sadly get much worse.

For example, the Dems first used the weapon (at least recently) of “special investigator” against Nixon, and now every Congress has its own politically-motivated special investigator going after the administration. Just look at the latest case against Scooter Libby to see how ridiculous it has become.


17 posted on 07/27/2008 6:49:18 AM PDT by PGR88
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: rogue yam
You are absolutely right and this statement proves it. "The retired minister, Rev. Chet Guinn, 80, told reporters who were on site for the pre-arranged arrest...

This was nothing but a stunt to get a handful of unknown useful idiots in the paper. If they really thought they could actually have a citizens arrest against Rove, they ought to be lock up in a mental ward because they are dangerous to themselves and others.

If I were the arraignment judge, I would have sent them to a mental institution for 48 hour observation. Jail is an acceptable price to these morons, let's see if a record of mental instability does any good. I would also drug test them.

18 posted on 07/27/2008 6:49:27 AM PDT by Dutch Boy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Diana in Wisconsin

Nothing that a stay in the local psych ward can’t take care of.


19 posted on 07/27/2008 6:50:59 AM PDT by RU88 (The false messiah can not change water into wine any more than he can get unity from diversity.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Diana in Wisconsin
This is the second attempt by two members of the group to arrest Rove, whom many believe should be held accountable, along with other members of the Bush administration, for war crimes, murder and lies to the public related to the Iraq war.

Now I never attended journalism school, and by reading this, neither has the author. However, shouldn't the paragraph have ended with "...arrest Rove." for the rest of the paragrah was just an editorial. I must also admit I have never heard of "ALL HEADLINE NEWS"..so I don't know how legitimate this "source" is...

20 posted on 07/27/2008 6:51:21 AM PDT by BerniesFriend
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Diana in Wisconsin

Gee...why didn’t they arrest Bill Clinton when he was in Iowa as several women have accused him of rape?


21 posted on 07/27/2008 6:51:21 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("Mir we bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: PGR88

The Madame DeFarge’s of our time.


22 posted on 07/27/2008 6:54:31 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: Diana in Wisconsin
This is the second attempt by two members of the group to arrest Rove, whom many believe should be held accountable, along with other members of the Bush administration, for war crimes, murder and lies to the public related to the Iraq war.

The men, wearing "George Norry for President Tee-shirts," rushed at Mr. Rove screaming "Bush Cheney war profiteers! Liars! Criminals!" . . . .

w/just a teeny tiny :)

23 posted on 07/27/2008 6:59:55 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Diana in Wisconsin
I used to live in Iowa (Altoona, outside of Des Moines) so I can say this.

IOWA.

Idiots
Out
Walking
Around

24 posted on 07/27/2008 7:04:01 AM PDT by usconservative (My Plan For Reform Government: Hang 'em all on Thursday; Try 'em all for treason on Friday.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Ben Reyes
Why aren’t they making citizen’s arrest on any Catholic priest for possible complicity in possible child sex abuse case?

My own guess is that they don't consider any kind of sexual activity to be a crime. And I'm not joking

25 posted on 07/27/2008 7:06:06 AM PDT by chesley ( Ya can't make chick'n dumplin's outta chick'n feathers!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: television is just wrong
I saw a guy try and pull one of these citizens arrest several years ago. The only thing that I took away from watching that “arrest” was that if you’re trying to arrest somebody, you'd better be able to whip the guy's ass that your trying to arrest. He couldn't and he didn’t!
26 posted on 07/27/2008 7:06:43 AM PDT by skimbell
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: skimbell
SmileyCentral.com
27 posted on 07/27/2008 7:14:52 AM PDT by verity ("Lord, what fools we mortals be!")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: Diana in Wisconsin
Four Iowan's Attempt

If the headline writer does not know English grammar any better than this, skip reading the story!

28 posted on 07/27/2008 7:22:29 AM PDT by iowamark
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Diana in Wisconsin

These idiots should be charged with conspiracy to commit kidnapping.


29 posted on 07/27/2008 7:23:07 AM PDT by 6SJ7
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Diana in Wisconsin


30 posted on 07/27/2008 7:29:36 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist -CTHULHU/NYARLATHOTEP'08 = Nothing LESS!!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: G.Mason

LOL!


31 posted on 07/27/2008 7:37:02 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: iowamark
A guy I used to work with was in love with apostrophes. This must be his sister...
32 posted on 07/27/2008 7:39:03 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: television is just wrong
those same people can be sued for false arrest and false imprisonment as well as a list of other offences. really stupid.

Yup. False arrest is also a felony, not just a civil matter (a tort). Duly sworn peace officers (cops, sheriff's deputys, etc.) are immune unless they act with actual malice, e.g., harrass their ex-wife's boyfriend.

The standard for a citizens arrest is generally something along the lines that the person making the arrest have first hand knowledge of criminal act and that without the citizens arrest there is danger that the perpetrator will flee. Clearly, neither condition applies in this case.

33 posted on 07/27/2008 7:39:57 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (His Negritude has made his negritude the central theme of this campaign)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Eric in the Ozarks
Apostrophes can be quite nice if they're in their proper places.

When they're not, they're quite annoying. ;-)

34 posted on 07/27/2008 7:40:37 AM PDT by Allegra (Ain't it grand? I'm back in the sand...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies]

To: SatinDoll
After about 16 UN resolutions, I don’t understand how you can be so stupid, sir, as to believe the Main Stream Media and THEIR lies!!

You answered your own question. They really are that stupid. Scary, too. :)

35 posted on 07/27/2008 7:48:06 AM PDT by sig226 (Real power is not the ability to destroy an enemy. It is the willingness to do it.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Diana in Wisconsin
Idiots
Out
Wandering
Around

36 posted on 07/27/2008 8:01:22 AM PDT by LongElegantLegs (Come then, War! With hearts elated to thy standard we will fly!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Diana in Wisconsin

No proof of a crime, of course. Ignorant fools! I hope they sit in jail for awhile.


37 posted on 07/27/2008 8:15:20 AM PDT by beckysueb (Drill here! Drill now!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Diana in Wisconsin; Saint Athanasius
The retired minister, Rev. Chet Guinn, 80, told reporters who were on site for the pre-arranged arrest that everyone who remains silent when major crimes are being committed against all humanity becomes an accomplice.

Hmmm...I wonder how many abortionists the -uh- "Rev" Guinn has tried to make a citizens arrest upon.

38 posted on 07/27/2008 8:26:24 AM PDT by rhinohunter (Welcome back to the GOP "glory" days of Gerald Ford and Bob Michel)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Diana in Wisconsin
When reached for comment, Mr. Rove made the following statement:

“Beep-beep!”

39 posted on 07/27/2008 8:27:35 AM PDT by RichInOC (The Magnificent Bastard...rides again!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: The Great RJ
Gee...why didn’t they arrest Bill Clinton when he was in Iowa as several women have accused him of rape?

Ouch!!

Put some ice on that..!!

40 posted on 07/27/2008 8:32:39 AM PDT by Osage Orange (Molon Labe)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

To: Diana in Wisconsin

“three Catholic workers and a Methodist Minister”.. So what?

Plenty of Catholic workers are not going to vote for Obama either because he’s in favor of infanticide when babies are born alive during late-term abortions. SCREAM THIS FROM THE ROOFTOPS!

The writer of this article is merely trying to give some phoney moral value to the actions of these four idiots. Funny, isn’t it? Usually journalists use Catholics for whipping boys and girls, but not if it serves some other purpose promoting liberalism. Then suddenly being a Catholic gets meaning. Jerks, that’s what I call them.


41 posted on 07/27/2008 9:02:38 AM PDT by Gumdrop
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Diana in Wisconsin

Waht a bunch of self-righteous, arrogant b@st@rds!


42 posted on 07/27/2008 9:08:45 AM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten

“There are now books about how Bush is guilty of “war crimes”. I see real problems ahead.”

You are quite right. Recently I heard Vincent Bugliosi discuss his book “The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder” on the Michael Medved Show. It was truly scary. Though left wing, no one can portray Bugliosi as a kook. How he cannot see the damage he is doing to his country is beyond me. The thought that his efforts might actually move beyond the monetary profit his thesis is enjoying, and into action, is frightening. He should fear the monster run amok, on men on his side of the aisle as well as the right wing. Political disfavor is moving into the realm of criminality, and the fate of Robespierre cannot be too far behind for those in power if the trend continues.


43 posted on 07/27/2008 9:12:10 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: Diana in Wisconsin
Arrested? Why isn't the ME digging bullets out of their skulls?
44 posted on 07/27/2008 9:44:21 AM PDT by isrul (Help make every day, "Disrespect a muzzie day.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SoCal Pubbie

If we think of the “Bush is guilty of war crimes” kooks as weeds or mushrooms, the problem is that they seem (to me) to be spouting up everywhere. One kook running around saying it is one thing. Incidents popping op everywhere from New York to New Zealand and as you say people like Bugliosi getting in on the act seems to me something altogether different. What at one time seemed to be way “out there” steadily becomes “mainstreamed”.

The left indeed wants to criminalize political differences, just as Robespierre, Lenin, Stalin, and Mao did in their times.

Whenever this has been tried the results have been predictably bloody.

I fear for our nation.


45 posted on 07/27/2008 9:53:21 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 43 | View Replies]

To: Diana in Wisconsin

The blurb doesn’t say, but I’m guessing the three Catholics were members of Pax Christi, and I’m also guessing they’re over the age of 60, since most of the lib Catholic activists got their start in the late 60’s, and early 70’s, near the end of the Vietnam War. They’re graying more every day.


46 posted on 07/27/2008 10:09:21 AM PDT by SuziQ
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Ben Reyes
Why aren’t they making citizen’s arrest on any Catholic priest for possible complicity in possible child sex abuse case?

Good question.

47 posted on 07/27/2008 10:10:42 AM PDT by wardaddy (Myself and my ancestors take full responsibility for all racial discrimination here since 1607)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: usconservative
I
Owe the
World an
Apology
48 posted on 07/27/2008 10:44:49 AM PDT by Big Giant Head (I should change my tagline to "Big Giant penguin on my Head")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: television is just wrong
those same people can be sued for false arrest and false imprisonment as well as a list of other offences. really stupid.

This really borders on terrorism. What I worry about is what if moonbats like these decide to go to the next level and appoint themselves jusges and executioners?

49 posted on 07/27/2008 10:49:24 AM PDT by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: author

Now that they’re in custody, let’s have a judge offer them the traditional “jail or the military” option for first timers. Then, regardless of their choice, let’s parachute them into Zimbabwe to continue their good work on Mugabe.


50 posted on 07/27/2008 11:32:22 AM PDT by DPMD (~)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 49 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-63 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson