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Virginia Illegal Immigration: Crime skyrockets in 1 county, plummets right next door
World Net Daily ^ | July 27, 2008

Posted on 07/28/2008 4:23:45 AM PDT by SilvieWaldorfMD

WASHINGTON – One of the wealthiest counties in America reports crime skyrocketing by 22 percent in the first quarter of 2008, while its neighbor saw crime plummet by 19.3 percent in the same time period – coinciding with a get-tough policy on illegal immigration.

Prince William County in Northern Virginia, a bedroom community for the nation's capital, made national news late last year with a crackdown on illegal immigration that supervisors believed was triggering higher crime and lower living standards.

Prince William County reported a 19.3 percent decline in crime, with chairman of the Board of County Supervisors Corey Stewart attributing the downturn to the hard line the county has taken toward illegal immigrants.

"One quarter doesn't tell us a lot," said county police spokeswoman Mary Ann Jennings. "It shows us where they may be some trends developing."

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; US: Maryland; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnestybill; congress; crime; crimestatistics; elections; fairfaxcounty; illegalimmigration; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration; mccain; mccainlist; mexicanborder; princewilliamcounty; virginia
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Interesting.......... very interesting.........
1 posted on 07/28/2008 4:23:45 AM PDT by SilvieWaldorfMD
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner; suspects; kburi; BufordP; trooprally

Ping!


2 posted on 07/28/2008 4:26:49 AM PDT by SilvieWaldorfMD (Airlines can take their $15-per-checked-bag surcharge and shove it!)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

ban crime,work everytime


3 posted on 07/28/2008 4:33:09 AM PDT by Waco
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

Shouldn’t this have been reported in the WaPo? Oh, wait!


4 posted on 07/28/2008 4:36:08 AM PDT by Thrownatbirth (.....Iraq Invasion fan since '91.)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

It’s no different that rat control. Get rid of open trash cans and remove sources of food, and rats will leave and go to another neighborhoon. Crack down of illegal migrants and they will move to a neighboring area that doesn’t have the crackdowns.


5 posted on 07/28/2008 4:38:42 AM PDT by BuffaloJack
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD
I'm sure it's all just a coincidence. The undocumented people are just here to work, not commit crimes.
6 posted on 07/28/2008 4:46:35 AM PDT by HenpeckedCon (Deport them all... Let God sort them out!)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

Interesting? Not a word I would have chosen.

And just how many good Freepers would steal and/or break some laws when you are homeless and hungry and out of work?

I sincerely hope we don’t find out.

None of the illegal immigrants are wearing Dorothy’s red shoes...where you simply click your heels to go back home.


7 posted on 07/28/2008 4:48:07 AM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: theKid51; ourusa; Apple Blossom

ping


8 posted on 07/28/2008 4:52:28 AM PDT by bmwcyle (If God wanted us to be Socialist, Karl Marx would have been born in America.)
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To: DCPatriot

“None of the illegal immigrants are wearing Dorothy’s red shoes...where you simply click your heels to go back home”

Very true. I also have to wonder how many illegals were sucked up by a tornado and mysteriously ended up outside the Emerald City.


9 posted on 07/28/2008 4:59:57 AM PDT by samson1097
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To: DCPatriot
Your compassion is admirable. Your logic is nauseating.
10 posted on 07/28/2008 5:06:27 AM PDT by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: BuffaloJack
Simplistic, but basically correct. In this case, many are heading back to their homelands, which is a good thing. On average (if you believe Thomas Sowell or Ben Wattenberg), Latin Americans as a group do not perform nearly as well as so many other immigrant groups. Some of the indicators (illegitimacy, 2d generation welfare dependence) are appalling.
11 posted on 07/28/2008 5:15:10 AM PDT by MSF BU (++)
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To: DCPatriot

Latin America is beautiful, with lots of natural resources, perhaps if they protested and demanded their rights in their home countries like they do here, things would change.


12 posted on 07/28/2008 5:28:47 AM PDT by panthermom
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD
Not interesting at all. ICE should not have let illegal aliens flee from PW to Fairfax.

Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac shouldn't have let so many foreclosures happen.

The Housing industry should not have let construction fall into the ditch (economically speaking).

All Fairfax did was increase enforcement of its "no more than 3 unrelated people allowed in a single family dwelling" law.

Next thing you know there were big bunches of these guys wandering the streets, unemployed, and no one cares.

13 posted on 07/28/2008 5:34:52 AM PDT by muawiyah (We need a "Gastank For America" to win back Congress)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

Well, if Fairfax County was smart, it’d emulate Prince William County, and its crime rate would suddenly drop just as suddenly as it has risen. But Fairfax County’s leadership is not that smart.


14 posted on 07/28/2008 5:40:05 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!"--Duncan Hunter)
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To: DCPatriot
And just how many good Freepers would steal and/or break some laws when you are homeless and hungry and out of work?... I sincerely hope we don’t find out.

You don't have to find out because we typically do not get into that situation. I have been in a position where I had no place to go, no money, and no contacts, where I had to get work immediately, or face some pretty dire consequences. I knocked on every door and filled out every application, and had work by the next day. The minimum wage pay sucked and the work sucked, but it was work. After I got off work, I continued to knock on doors and fill out applications. Within a week, I had a job that paid more (though the work still sucked). Over the next six months, I moved through a succession of jobs, until I finally wound up in a position where I was doing pretty well and had an opportunity for advancement.

None of the illegal immigrants are wearing Dorothy’s red shoes...where you simply click your heels to go back home.

They can get home. They just don't want to go home. Even with increased enforcement, the prospects are still better here. What they really want are Ruby Slippers that let them come and go at will.

15 posted on 07/28/2008 5:44:11 AM PDT by gridlock (IT'S AN OIL ECONOMY, STUPID!.......................................................(FREE LAZAMATAZ!))
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To: gridlock

Proud resident of Prince William County here.


16 posted on 07/28/2008 5:58:39 AM PDT by IGOTMINE (1911s FOREVER!)
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To: wolfcreek
Your compassion is admirable. Your logic is nauseating.

Nauseating to some perhaps...but valid nonetheless. The sheer numbers of displaced illegals out of Prince William Slum...er, County, explain the rise in stats.

There has to be children with empty stomachs...and many empty gas tanks somewhere in the equation.

I am not condoning the burglaries and thefts....just 'splaining it to some of the more narrow-minded and ignorant among us.

17 posted on 07/28/2008 6:07:19 AM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: DCPatriot

That’s the reason it is so important for people to stay home and build their own lives. They should have their own place in an extended family, church and community where they would be horrified to steal from their own neighbors. Where friends and family would help each other out and work together for the future.


18 posted on 07/28/2008 6:35:24 AM PDT by donna (The Latino community holds the election in its hands. -Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

Wait a second. Removing people who have shown themselves to have no respect for our laws leads to a reduction in crime? Are you sure?


19 posted on 07/28/2008 6:48:55 AM PDT by DemonDeac
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To: BuffaloJack

“It’s no different that rat control. Get rid of open trash cans and remove sources of food, and rats will leave and go to another neighborhoon. Crack down of illegal migrants and they will move to a neighboring area that doesn’t have the crackdowns.”

Personally I think the best way to end this plague is not to target individuals, though that is important and must be done. The best way to fight this and what I think the central aspect of any attempt to get rid of these people should be is to go after employers aggressively. Take away their access to jobs and you will fewer people enter the US and more selfdeport.


20 posted on 07/28/2008 6:52:46 AM PDT by DemonDeac
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To: donna

Good morning, donna.

When a person earns X amount of money for a consecutive number of years, it’s human nature to have his/her standard of living rise...or lower accordingly.

The same natural human condition was a large factor in explaining the current foreclosure mess.

When ‘cousin Pedro’ calls or writes back to his extended family in Mexico or Central America with photos of his new car, his new home, his big smile...you’d be 2nd guessing yourself if you didn’t pick up and go to the USA yourself.

They did.

All these illegals that were renting out bedrooms from friends or relatives have lost their jobs...either through governmental crackdown...or by the housing bust.

They are no longer drywalling, painting, laying carpet, landscaping, etc..

Once the rent can’t be paid, the mortgage can’t be paid.

It’s very easy for people to point fingers and dismiss it as poor management of their finances...but having read your posts all these years...I know you’re too smart for that.

This is a tragedy. A human and economic tragedy.

And then some wonder why Hispanics lean toward the Rat Party.....{{{SIGH}}}


21 posted on 07/28/2008 7:52:51 AM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: Thrownatbirth
Shouldn’t this have been reported in the WaPo?

This morning's paper, front page, right side, above the fold.

22 posted on 07/28/2008 7:54:05 AM PDT by relee ('Till the blue skies drive the dark clouds far away)
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To: HenpeckedCon

The liberal solution would be to end the crackdown so that the disparity (and the cause) wouldn’t be so obvious.


23 posted on 07/28/2008 7:56:27 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: DCPatriot

>>>And just how many good Freepers would steal and/or break some laws when you are homeless and hungry and out of work?<<<

As a fairfax resident, I can safely say they’re not stealing from the local Safeway or Giant.


24 posted on 07/28/2008 7:58:45 AM PDT by angkor (Conservatism is not now and never has been a religious movement.)
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To: gridlock

It really nauseates me that some who are supposedly “compassionate” think that the majority of those facing “hard luck” or “good luck” had no hand in the results they’re facing, nor have any responsibility to get themselves out of it.


25 posted on 07/28/2008 7:59:28 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: DCPatriot

>>>>>This is a tragedy. A human and economic tragedy.<<<<

No it’s not, it’s simply flouting of U.S. laws by illegals who’ve learned they can get away with it.

If I get caught in Thailand or Malaysia with no passport, visa, ID, or means of support, you would not call it “a tragedy”.

In fact I’ll bet you would sympathize with their prosecution of me as a criminal, the ensuing fine, and rather immediate deportation back to the States as well as a 10 year ban on return to those countries.


26 posted on 07/28/2008 8:02:52 AM PDT by angkor (Conservatism is not now and never has been a religious movement.)
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To: IGOTMINE

>>>>Proud resident of Prince William County here.

Corey Stewart for President!

(from a fairfax resident)


27 posted on 07/28/2008 8:03:54 AM PDT by angkor (Conservatism is not now and never has been a religious movement.)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD
I was returning with my liberal spouse from a delightful afternoon/evening in Michigan. The local radio had dropped one Billy Cunningham at 10pm. I got him with my car radio at 1100 WTAM Cleveland.

First off, a gentleman talking on the subject here posted with Billy. I noted the names Prince William County and Fairfax County. What needs to be mentioned and again and again reveals human nature is certainly the same in England and Canada.

When the authorities took measures ie: clamp down on get rich quick rental merchants who cram in illegals. Next survey and discourage the scads of illegals gathering at given points for their cheap labour. Then start in on identification of miscreants. It followed that certain politicians in neigbouring counties cried out in disagreement.

The old r word was used. The rest was left to the imagination about the self righteous condemnation. Now for the joker.

What to do when the adverse situation moves to their pristine residential areas? How do they then face their own constituents?

The man informing Billy Cunningham, chuckled about virtually being "one foot in Fairfax and one foot in Prince William County". The man on the spot.

28 posted on 07/28/2008 8:10:05 AM PDT by Peter Libra
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To: angkor
No it’s not, it’s simply flouting of U.S. laws by illegals who’ve learned they can get away with it.

Well gee whiz, angkor!! Why were they 'getting away with it'?

The immigration laws are broken.

They've not been enforced diligently for decades.

Do YOU ever drive over the posted speed limit of 55 mph? Or are you the one that drives in the far left lane and refuses to move over?

29 posted on 07/28/2008 8:17:36 AM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: MrB

B. Hussein and Juan’s solution is to make them all citizens, then there won’t be anymore problems.


30 posted on 07/28/2008 8:19:52 AM PDT by HenpeckedCon (Deport them all... Let God sort them out!)
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To: relee
This morning's paper, front page, right side, above the fold.

It's not in the early edition I grabbed at 4 am. There's an article complaining about PW Co. reporting foreign-born inmates to ICE. Nary a word about crime stats.
31 posted on 07/28/2008 8:33:35 AM PDT by Thrownatbirth (.....Iraq Invasion fan since '91.)
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To: Tennessee Nana

For your files.


32 posted on 07/28/2008 8:38:58 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine's brother (Democrat, a synonym for Traitor)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD
When laws are enforced....crime goes down.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2051853/posts

33 posted on 07/28/2008 8:41:50 AM PDT by Osage Orange (Molon Labe)
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To: DCPatriot

“This is a tragedy. A human and economic tragedy.”

Not if you love America.


34 posted on 07/28/2008 8:49:27 AM PDT by Checkers (McCain: "Hillary Clinton would make a good President.")
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To: Checkers

Perhaps, you meant ‘The United States’.

America extends from Alaska/Canada to Chile/Argentina.

A common problem with those with tunnel vision. You’re forgiven. ;^)


35 posted on 07/28/2008 8:55:15 AM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: DCPatriot

“And just how many good Freepers would steal and/or break some laws when you are homeless and hungry and out of work?”

Most of these new immigrants are NONE of those things, and you know it. Let ‘em steal from you for a change, they’ve cost me over a million dollars and the security of my family. Stop giving MY stuff away to suit your liberal agenda.


36 posted on 07/28/2008 8:57:51 AM PDT by AuntB ( "During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: AuntB
Most of these new immigrants are NONE of those things, and you know it.

No. I DON'T know that.

And neither do you.

Do you reside in the Washington, DC Region. AuntB? I do.

Do your homework and stop posting on emotion.

37 posted on 07/28/2008 9:04:06 AM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: DCPatriot

Emotion...no it is you who posts based on the emotion of RACE. Stiffle your nonsense, no one but McCain is buying it.


38 posted on 07/28/2008 9:11:02 AM PDT by AuntB ( "During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: DCPatriot
And just how many good Freepers would steal and/or break some laws when you are homeless and hungry and out of work?

You left out that they are illegally squatting in a nation where they don't belong.

I sincerely hope we don’t find out.

I sincerely hope neither you nor any of your loved ones are among the thousands of Americans killed, raped, and robbed every year by illegal aliens.

None of the illegal immigrants are wearing Dorothy’s red shoes...where you simply click your heels to go back home.

They seem to have no trouble clicking those ruby slippers and transporting themselves from Tijuana or Guatemala City to Fairfax, Virginia. If they need a ride home, all they have to do is turn themselves in to the immigration service. They'll arrange the transportation.

39 posted on 07/28/2008 9:17:43 AM PDT by puroresu (Enjoy ASIAN CINEMA? See my Freeper page for recommendations (updated!).)
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To: DemonDeac
Personally I think the best way to end this plague is not to target individuals, though that is important and must be done. The best way to fight this and what I think the central aspect of any attempt to get rid of these people should be is to go after employers aggressively. Take away their access to jobs and you will fewer people enter the US and more selfdeport.

I agree- the idea of large-scale deportations is not politically feasible. Americans would not like to see illegals rounded up en masse and put on buses.

But the strategy of making it difficult for them to keep living in our society will work very well in the long-term. Require proof of citizenship to obtain government services. Impose heavy fines on employers who hire illegals. Every time an illegal is arrested, he should be deported (after his criminal sentence, if applicable). And so on. Over time, it will just become too difficult for illegals to live in this country, and they will sell-deport.

40 posted on 07/28/2008 9:18:43 AM PDT by Citizen Blade ("Please... I go through everyone's trash." The Question)
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To: DCPatriot

“Do your homework and stop posting on emotion.”

You first.


41 posted on 07/28/2008 9:19:32 AM PDT by Checkers (McCain: "Hillary Clinton would make a good President.")
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To: DCPatriot

I meant America.


42 posted on 07/28/2008 9:20:10 AM PDT by Checkers (McCain: "Hillary Clinton would make a good President.")
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To: DCPatriot

If I ever see what I think are illegals pilfering faux red ruby slippers at the local Payless, I’ll look the other way. Otherwise, they can return home the same way they got here.


43 posted on 07/28/2008 9:20:14 AM PDT by BufordP ("You'd better not know so much, than know so many things that ain't so."--Josh Billings, 1818-1885)
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To: BufordP

“Otherwise, they can return home the same way they got here.”

I don’t see the problem.


44 posted on 07/28/2008 9:24:14 AM PDT by Checkers (McCain: "Hillary Clinton would make a good President.")
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD; Jimmy Valentine's brother
Thanks for the ping, Silvie!

It's Connelly's fault! And Bush's fault too!

45 posted on 07/28/2008 9:26:03 AM PDT by BufordP (Had Mexicans flown planes into the World Trade Center, Jorge Bush would have surrendered.)
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To: Checkers

?


46 posted on 07/28/2008 9:29:13 AM PDT by BufordP (Had Mexicans flown planes into the World Trade Center, Jorge Bush would have surrendered.)
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To: DemonDeac; BuffaloJack
Problem with the equation is that Fairfax is a doggone expensive place to live, and PW county isn't.

Fairfax has been vigorously enforcing the "no more than 3 unrelated individuals" law, and that by itself drives illegal aliens out of the jurisdiction since it takes more than 3 of 'em paying rent to afford Fairfax.

All the "planned for illegals" rooming house expansions around the county have gone bankrupt and are being foreclosed.

There's been a decided reduction in the number of illegals seen around the county this Summer, and malls report that the number of illegals shopping there has fallen off substantially ~ they're not even hanging around the parking lots now (although a decidedly darker crowd with "do rags" has been taking up the slack at certain locations, but that's a special market).

Which leads to a good question about who is doing the robberies?

My money is on professional home robbers who migrate around the country. With construction in the dumps, and few pick up jobs available for spot cash income I'm just going to guess that the Murpheys from South Carolina and the Williams Clan are doing the hits.

47 posted on 07/28/2008 9:31:47 AM PDT by muawiyah (We need a "Gastank For America" to win back Congress)
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To: Citizen Blade

Buses? We don’t need no steenking buses!


48 posted on 07/28/2008 9:39:42 AM PDT by muawiyah (We need a "Gastank For America" to win back Congress)
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To: Jimmy Valentine's brother

Thank you...


49 posted on 07/28/2008 9:44:50 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: DCPatriot
We're pretty sophisticated these days and know the difference between immigrants, all of whom have visas that entitled them to work and to have green cards, and illegal aliens.

Illegal aliens are really no different than a tourist without a visa.

The law requires tourists, etc., (temporry visitors) to add any children born here to their visa, which means, of course, that the kiddies aren't considered citizens ('cause citizens don't need a visa to visit America). We have several million folks wandering about whose mothers misinformed them that they were citizens. What's really going on is their mother's are still waiting on their visas.

Be a good idea for the government to instantly issue a tourist visa to each and every illegal alien who is caught, and start adding their babies to it.

That way when we finally get around to sending them back home they take their kids with them.

50 posted on 07/28/2008 9:45:21 AM PDT by muawiyah (We need a "Gastank For America" to win back Congress)
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