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Pedal vs. Metal A surge in bike ridership spurs a new kind of road rage
Newsweek ^ | July 28, 2008 | Winston Ross

Posted on 07/29/2008 7:55:24 AM PDT by fightinJAG

When gas prices surged above $4 per gallon earlier this year, it didn't take Nostradamus to predict that there would be a resultant rush to carbon-free commuting options—especially in a place like Portland, which is known for its ample network of bike lanes. Cyclists in "Stumptown" are spinning their spokes here in unprecedented numbers, trading in their fuel-guzzling SUVs for stylish 27-speeds.

But the cycling surge has created conflict, as the new breed of commuters bumps up against the old, oil-powered kind.

First came a drunk cyclist repeatedly smacking the driver of a car with his bike July 6, before a passerby stopped the melee by knocking the pedaler to the ground with one punch (the driver happened to be a longtime cycling advocate, who'd kicked off the altercation by chiding the biker for blowing through a red light.)

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1 posted on 07/29/2008 7:55:25 AM PDT by fightinJAG
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To: fightinJAG

27 speed ?


2 posted on 07/29/2008 8:00:15 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: fightinJAG

Therefore ban bikes.


3 posted on 07/29/2008 8:01:10 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: fightinJAG

The other day, I nearly hit two cyclists with my hubby’s truck.

They were flying down the sidewalk, on the wrong side and proceeded across right in front of me as I attempted to turn right on red. In the long run, it would have been my fault.

But, I have to say, I didn’t expect it. Full speed on the sidewalk, through a crosswalk. I wouldn’t have taken those chances as a cyclist. I followed the rules that cars had, traveled on the right side in the street like a car. I was instructed that when you are on the sidewalk, you should follow the rules of pedestians. A flashing hand means stay there.

I was taken aback and will look from now on. They even stopped to yell at me and I apologized. I could have killed them or hurt them badly on something I never expected. Time to watch for cyclists.


4 posted on 07/29/2008 8:04:23 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Why would anyone make "Hairspray 2"? (Free Corny!))
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

27 speed ?

Triple front gear with 9-speed rear gears.


5 posted on 07/29/2008 8:05:02 AM PDT by upier ("Usted no es agradable en America" "Ahora deporte Illegals")
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To: netmilsmom

Probably would have been your fault but they woulda been hurt.

Full speed on the sidewalk is not good cycling but many of them think they own the street and sidewalk.


6 posted on 07/29/2008 8:06:28 AM PDT by driftdiver (No More Obama - The corruption hasn’t changed despite all our hopes.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

“27 speed ?”

Yep.

“A 27-speed bike is just the same (as a 10-speed), except that there are 3 chainwheels in front and 9 sprockets in back. There are still just two derailers, and two control levers.

The control on the left side shifts among the 2 or 3 front chainwheels; the one on the right shifts among the 5-9 rear sprockets.”


7 posted on 07/29/2008 8:06:46 AM PDT by gracesdad
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To: netmilsmom

that reminds me, i need to get a new bumper gaurd for my truck.


8 posted on 07/29/2008 8:06:47 AM PDT by absolootezer0 ( Detroit: we're so bad, even our mayor is a criminal)
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To: fightinJAG
(the driver happened to be a longtime cycling advocate, who'd kicked off the altercation by chiding the biker for blowing through a red light.)

Good for him.

9 posted on 07/29/2008 8:06:51 AM PDT by sionnsar (Impeach Obama |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: upier

‘swhat I guessed. My old Schwinn Varsity had 2 X 5.


10 posted on 07/29/2008 8:07:27 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: netmilsmom
Full speed on the sidewalk, through a crosswalk. I wouldn’t have taken those chances as a cyclist.

If a cyclist doesn't know the physics of mass plus velocity between a cycle and a car he should stick to walking.

11 posted on 07/29/2008 8:07:40 AM PDT by AU72
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To: netmilsmom

Actually that was their fault, not yours.


12 posted on 07/29/2008 8:07:45 AM PDT by gura (R-MO)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
27 speed ?

9x3 obviously. My commuter is a 21-speed.

13 posted on 07/29/2008 8:07:45 AM PDT by sionnsar (Impeach Obama |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Nine speed cassettes, or rear sprockets, are quite common. With three chain rings on the front, that gives you twenty-seven speeds.
14 posted on 07/29/2008 8:07:53 AM PDT by PUGACHEV
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To: netmilsmom

Dumb cyclists. Cyclists who value their own lives don’t ride like that.

I am not a cyclist, but my brother is. He doesn’t ride on sidewalks.


15 posted on 07/29/2008 8:08:49 AM PDT by gracesdad
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To: driftdiver

> Full speed on the sidewalk is not good cycling but many of them think they own the street and sidewalk.

That’s because they haven’t had to pay for the privilege of transport.

They don’t sit a driver’s license, they don’t have to register their vehicles, they don’t have to keep their vehicles roadworthy, they don’t pay road taxes, and they don’t have to carry insurance. Yet they get identical rights on the roads that others have paid for as motor vehicles.

Cyclists are freeloaders of the worst sort.


16 posted on 07/29/2008 8:10:55 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: PUGACHEV
A bike shop builder I knew made a 45 speed, based on a Schwinn Paramount way back in my teens. He added a 3 speed hub from an early 60s English bike but I suspect some of the ratios were duplicated.
17 posted on 07/29/2008 8:12:33 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: PUGACHEV

I understand that there are 27 gear combinations, but isn’t there any actual overlap in the gearing? I have an 18 speed (I think, been a while since I have ridden it) but only used maybe 6 or 8 of the gears, for the most part.


18 posted on 07/29/2008 8:12:51 AM PDT by NCLaw441
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To: netmilsmom

“Full speed on the sidewalk, through a crosswalk. I wouldn’t have taken those chances as a cyclist. I followed the rules that cars had, traveled on the right side in the street like a car. I was instructed that when you are on the sidewalk, you should follow the rules of pedestians.”

In many areas, bicyclists are banned by law from riding on the sidewalk (some of those go back 100 years). The effect of a 20 mph cyclist hitting a pedestrian is akin to a NFL player taking a hit from a linebacker.

The noob cyclists, and many of the old-timers like me, need to learn the laws. Sadly, so do the cops in most areas. Bicyclists need to get tickets for traffic violations.


19 posted on 07/29/2008 8:13:35 AM PDT by TWohlford
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To: fightinJAG
FTA:
Schmautz, the Portland cop, notes a "militant" attitude among citizens, which may explain why traffic disagreements sometimes boil over into full-blown fights. "We have a protest culture," he said. "We see a certain willingness to speak out in a way that's not completely legal."

And not just to speak, either. Laws are for "other" people.

20 posted on 07/29/2008 8:15:13 AM PDT by thulldud (Congress does not want answers. They want scapegoats. (andy58-in-nh))
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To: gracesdad
I almost clipped a cyclist last Sunday, the same way. I am looking to go straight across a pretty busy road. I check traffic both ways and start to go, and woosh a bicycle flies by my front bumper, right-to-left, as he goes from sidewalk to sidewalk on the wrong side of the street.

I just did not expect somebody to be carrying that kind of speed on a sidewalk, going the wrong way, in a residential neighborhood. This guy was really moving! So now the drill is to check both travel lanes, the opposite traffic for people turning Left, and both sidewalks both ways!

I just know that as soon as I have this drill down, some idiot is going to be coming off the sidewalk behind me to turn Left, and it's back to the drawing board!

22 posted on 07/29/2008 8:16:20 AM PDT by gridlock (It's all about the "O"!.......................................................(FREE LAZAMATAZ!))
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To: fightinJAG
I know a lot of cyclists, and I'm impressed that, as a group, they tend to cultivate this self-righteous contempt for cars (even though they all drive.)

I would also add my observation that on the average, the serious male cyclists tend toward being...effeminate. But that would be catty.

23 posted on 07/29/2008 8:16:22 AM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: fightinJAG

Since it’s green-ecologically-friendly-non-petroleum-based-fuel-using transportation, any road rage asociated with it is allowable.


24 posted on 07/29/2008 8:17:06 AM PDT by PurpleMan
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To: netmilsmom
In the long run, it would have been my fault.

Actually, it would have likely been the fault of the cyclists. Many areas require riders to dismount when crossing roads when they are using the sidewalks as their paths. If they are on the road, then they must follow traffic laws. So, they were likely in the wrong.

25 posted on 07/29/2008 8:17:54 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS
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To: netmilsmom

I had one pull out of a parking lot into my lane on an access road on Saturday. It really hacked me off because I know he saw me, I was watching him because I was afraid he would do something stupid like that. I had to swerve around him, then I hit the accelerator and left him in a cloud of dust. I watch for cyclists, but a-holes like that one deserve to be the victim of road rage.


26 posted on 07/29/2008 8:18:24 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: DieHard the Hunter

“They don’t sit a driver’s license, they don’t have to register their vehicles, they don’t have to keep their vehicles roadworthy, they don’t pay road taxes, and they don’t have to carry insurance. Yet they get identical rights on the roads that others have paid for as motor vehicles.”

We don’t require the services of cars and trucks. We don’t tear up the pavement like trucks. We don’t cause the same damages as cars and trucks.

If the taxes and fees paid equates to rights, then shouldn’t the guys who truck M1 battle tanks on our Interstates be able to abuse car drivers? Would semi drivers be calling for Mini drivers to be taken off of the road, or worse, killed? I mean, the average pickup doesn’t pay $50k a year in road taxes, or the hefty insurance fees, etc... should pickup trucks be relegated to special trails that go nowhere close to something they’d like to drive to, or forced onto the sidewalks?


27 posted on 07/29/2008 8:18:39 AM PDT by TWohlford
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To: PurpleMan
Five got splatted here in Chicago in one week a month or so ago. I've seen them in the turn lanes in the middle of busy intersections as if they were cars. Way too crazy for me.

I did also have a humorous exchange of expletives with a dike on a bike who didn't yield to me and my turn signal when I had to make a right turn. She turned her tattoos red with anger. It felt good.

29 posted on 07/29/2008 8:20:28 AM PDT by Thebaddog (Dog breath? I don't think so.)
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To: fightinJAG

I know in my area there are tons of immigrants that ride their bikes to jobs. Almost all of them are in dark clothing at night, no reflectors or lights and ride on the wrong side of the road. These guys are the most dangerous of all — even to other cyclists.


30 posted on 07/29/2008 8:20:59 AM PDT by Londo Molari
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To: Seaplaner

“I would also add my observation that on the average, the serious male cyclists tend toward being...effeminate. But that would be catty.”

Well, I’ve ridden 10,000 miles on this bicycle alone, and showered w/ hundreds of cyclists (all males, and I think I’d remember showering with a female cyclist), and no one has ever made a pass at me.

This record is better than when I was a member of clergy, and I got passes from other members of clergy. So, does this mean that the clergy garb is more effeminate?


31 posted on 07/29/2008 8:20:59 AM PDT by TWohlford
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To: fightinJAG

well if they live close enough to ride a bike to work, then more power to them. I am not about to trek 25 miles one way in the hot arkansas heat on bike.


32 posted on 07/29/2008 8:21:10 AM PDT by Liberty2007 (Here's Dr. Savage's analysis on the POTUS race"The Afro-Leninist vs The Sarcophogus)
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To: DieHard the Hunter

“Cyclists are freeloaders of the worst sort.”

Yeah those bicycles really tear up that pavement.

Most cyclists are also drivers. They pay their share.


33 posted on 07/29/2008 8:22:22 AM PDT by gracesdad
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To: netmilsmom
Osama is for "change" and that includes riding bikes on the sidewalk.


34 posted on 07/29/2008 8:22:49 AM PDT by Abbeville Conservative (Just a bitter South Carolinian clinging to my religion and guns.)
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To: TWohlford
Bicyclists need to get tickets for traffic violations.

I actually did get a warning from a cop last week for "running" a red light. However, this light is at the intersection of a main road and an on-ramp to a highway. I explained to him that I normally don't do that, but, at this one particular intersection, it would have been safer for me to run the light than to sit and wait for the light to turn green and run the risk of having a car rear-end me trying to get on the highway.

35 posted on 07/29/2008 8:23:07 AM PDT by Andonius_99 (There are two sides to every issue. One is right, the other is wrong; but the middle is always evil.)
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To: DieHard the Hunter

For those 18 and over who cycle on public roadways, licensing and liability insurance should be mandatory.


36 posted on 07/29/2008 8:23:09 AM PDT by EdReform (The right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed *NRA*JPFO*SAF*GOA*SAS*CCRKBA)
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To: Thebaddog

“I’ve seen them in the turn lanes in the middle of busy intersections as if they were cars.”

Uh, how else does a vehicle make a left turn, if we don’t do it out of a left turn lane?

What is really infuriating is a motorist who speeds up to pass us on the left side, only to slam on their brakes to make a right turn squarely in front of us. I mean, would it kill them to ride behind us at 20 mph for that last 100 yards?


37 posted on 07/29/2008 8:23:24 AM PDT by TWohlford
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To: DieHard the Hunter

That’s defective logic of the worst sort, unless you’re just referring to riders under 16.


38 posted on 07/29/2008 8:24:08 AM PDT by Doohickey (SSN: One ship, one crew, one screw.)
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To: fightinJAG

I ride and ride a lot to and from work and on the weekends in the hill country. However, there are both Idiots who ride bikes and do not obey traffic laws and there are morons in cars that do not obey traffic laws, neglect to see cyclists and endanger the lives of bike riders.


39 posted on 07/29/2008 8:24:29 AM PDT by trumandogz ("He is erratic. He is hotheaded. He loses his temper and it worries me." Sen Cochran on McCain)
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To: Baynative

I looked at a bike like this at REI in Seattle a while back.


40 posted on 07/29/2008 8:25:03 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: EdReform

“For those 18 and over who cycle on public roadways, licensing and liability insurance should be mandatory.”

Well, I’ve yet to see a cyclist do enough damage to require the insurance. However, I do agree that bicyclists who disregard the law — including the hard-core guys who seem to think that a paceline negates any legal requirements — should get tickets, and they should count as points on their licenses.


41 posted on 07/29/2008 8:25:15 AM PDT by TWohlford
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To: sionnsar

Here's a nice 10 speed commuter............

42 posted on 07/29/2008 8:25:36 AM PDT by Red Badger (If we drill deep enough, we can reach the Saudi oil fields from THIS side..........)
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To: Thebaddog

Urban bicyclists - Using NASCAR rule in cities.


43 posted on 07/29/2008 8:25:56 AM PDT by PurpleMan
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To: netmilsmom

You’re not the only one that has problems with bikers. We live in the mountains. Bikers ride on the two lane roads up here all the time. One was killed trying to pass a big tractor on a curve and crossed a double yellow line. At times, we haul a 20’ stock trailer, loaded. There are blind curves and steep inclines. You can’t stop a rig like this when coming up on these bikers. Bikers seem to think they have the right of way. Little do they know that might has right.


44 posted on 07/29/2008 8:26:20 AM PDT by RC2
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To: TWohlford

> We don’t require the services of cars and trucks.

You require roads. And you require road rules and traffic signals (but most of you pay not a blind bit of notice to either).

> We don’t tear up the pavement like trucks. We don’t cause the same damages as cars and trucks.

So why should that absolve cyclists from being licensed? And paying road taxes just like everyone else? And observing the Road Rules?

Why should cyclists get to use for free something that someone else has paid for?

> If the taxes and fees paid equates to rights, then shouldn’t the guys who truck M1 battle tanks on our Interstates be able to abuse car drivers?

The cars and trucks have all paid their fair share and are not free-loading.


45 posted on 07/29/2008 8:26:23 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: fightinJAG

OK, just 30 posts in and we’ve already got:
—Cyclists are freeloaders.
—Ban them.
—Buy new bumpers to hit them with.
—They’re all liberals.
—And, of course, hinting that all the guys who ride bikes might be gay.

Any more?


46 posted on 07/29/2008 8:26:51 AM PDT by gracesdad
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To: EdReform

You’re kidding right? This is still FREE Republic, isn’t it?


47 posted on 07/29/2008 8:27:42 AM PDT by Doohickey (SSN: One ship, one crew, one screw.)
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To: ravingnutter

It isn’t just bicycle riders who pull dumb stunts.

The gene pool got a little cleaning last week on Loop 1604 around San Antonio. A guy on a motorcycle rode between cars and a semi. The driver of the car in front of the truck couldn’t see the motorcycle, changed lanes, and the biker ran into the car. Splat!


48 posted on 07/29/2008 8:28:44 AM PDT by CinnamonBear
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To: absolootezer0

I’m thinking cow catcher.


49 posted on 07/29/2008 8:28:59 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Why would anyone make "Hairspray 2"? (Free Corny!))
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To: fightinJAG
I came into work two weeks ago. It was about 8:00 AM. I was making a left turn into the gate. There are 4 stop signs entering the intersection. I saw about 35 bikes coming down the street at about 25 mph from the opposite direction. They weren't slowing down. I made the left hand turn but had to stop as they finish taking down the barricades to get into work. The bikes almost kill each other speeding into the intersection looking at my SUV broadside.
50 posted on 07/29/2008 8:29:17 AM PDT by bmwcyle (If God wanted us to be Socialist, Karl Marx would have been born in America.)
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