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How my mother's fanatical views tore us apart (A GREAT article exposing radical feminism)
MailOnline ^ | May 2008 | Rebecca Walker

Posted on 07/30/2008 2:52:19 PM PDT by Jeff Head

She's revered as a trail-blazing feminist and author Alice Walker touched the lives of a generation of women. A champion of women's rights, she has always argued that motherhood is a form of servitude. But one woman didn't buy in to Alice's beliefs - her daughter, Rebecca, 38.

Here the writer describes what it was like to grow up as the daughter of a cultural icon, and why she feels so blessed to be the sort of woman 64-year-old Alice despises - a mother.

The other day I was vacuuming when my son came bounding into the room. 'Mummy, Mummy, let me help,' he cried. His little hands were grabbing me around the knees and his huge brown eyes were looking up at me. I was overwhelmed by a huge surge of happiness.

I love the way his head nestles in the crook of my neck. I love the way his face falls into a mask of eager concentration when I help him learn the alphabet. But most of all, I simply love hearing his little voice calling: 'Mummy, Mummy.'

It reminds me of just how blessed I am. The truth is that I very nearly missed out on becoming a mother - thanks to being brought up by a rabid feminist who thought motherhood was about the worst thing that could happen to a woman.

You see, my mum taught me that children enslave women. I grew up believing that children are millstones around your neck, and the idea that motherhood can make you blissfully happy is a complete fairytale.

In fact, having a child has been the most rewarding experience of my life. Far from 'enslaving' me, three-and-a-half-year-old Tenzin has opened my world.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


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KEYWORDS: childbearing; feminazis; feminism; motherhood
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Read the entire article, HERE.

It's a great expose about the true nature of modern feminism by the daughter of one of the feminist icons, Alice Walker.

1 posted on 07/30/2008 2:52:20 PM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: Jeff Head

Based on some of the pictures i’ve seen of radical feminists I would prefer they not be exposed.


2 posted on 07/30/2008 2:57:50 PM PDT by DemonDeac
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To: Jeff Head

bump


3 posted on 07/30/2008 2:58:20 PM PDT by lesser_satan (Cthulu '08! Why vote for the lesser evil?)
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To: Jeff Head

Ugly, ugly stuff. But an interesting read. Thanks for the link.


4 posted on 07/30/2008 2:59:12 PM PDT by TheWasteLand
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To: Jeff Head

Perhaps the true believers not having kids is a blessing. Stub it off in one generation.


5 posted on 07/30/2008 3:04:05 PM PDT by Doctor Raoul (Fire the CIA and hire the Free Clinic, someone who knows how to stop leaks.)
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To: Jeff Head
Poignant, powerful stuff.

Feminism has betrayed an entire generation of women into childlessness. It is devastating.

There's the kill shot.

6 posted on 07/30/2008 3:06:34 PM PDT by Interesting Times (Swiftboating, you say? Check out ToSetTheRecordStraight.com)
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To: Jeff Head

Wow, somehow this woman turned out normal after a crazy childhood overseen by a cruel mother.


7 posted on 07/30/2008 3:14:46 PM PDT by colorado tanker (Number nine, number nine, number nine . . .)
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To: Interesting Times

Only a tiny percentage of women are childless. This sort of extremism was hardly taken to heart by an “entire generation”.


8 posted on 07/30/2008 3:15:14 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: TheWasteLand

You’re welcome. It is ugly...but it is the truth about what this movement is all about. If this woman can snub and disown her own daughter so dispassionately, then is it any wonder that they are willing to accept a Bill Clinton for example, in the furtherance of their sick agenda.


9 posted on 07/30/2008 3:15:55 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Interesting Times
Amen...and the honest to God truth.

Such mental sickness underlying that whole agenda...amazing that this woman was able to work her way out of it...but I am sure that is because one her Dad's side she saw what a normal family, with its nuturing and love could mean, and she determined to have it for herself and her own children.

Also let's you know that God's Spirit it out there working in people's hearts despite what the enemy of all rightousness foists on others.

10 posted on 07/30/2008 3:18:35 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: GovernmentShrinker

This woman is clearly speaking from her own perspective, being raised in and around feminists. Just as clealry an entire generation was not affected...but a large segment of those who subscribed to this agenda in her generation certainly were.


11 posted on 07/30/2008 3:20:20 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: devolve; Jeff Head; ntnychik; dixiechick2000; PhilDragoo; MeekOneGOP

Amazing that this woman was able to grow up with the right values in spite of her mother!

Did Hillary stay home and play with Chelsea...
Didn’t Michelle say that she couldn’t stand to stay home all day with ‘the children’...

Do they know how to love?


12 posted on 07/30/2008 3:20:58 PM PDT by potlatch
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To: colorado tanker
Amazing isn't it. See my post 10. As I said there, I am sure a large part of it was her seeing what a normal family consisted of and could do on her Dad's side when she visited there.

The rest of it was he deciding which of the two she wanted for herself and her own children.

13 posted on 07/30/2008 3:21:43 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: potlatch
Coming from a split marriage, she was blessed nonetheless to be exposed to her Dad's side and a normal, loving relationship there.

That experience and then her deciding which she wanted for herself and her own children did the trick I am sure.

14 posted on 07/30/2008 3:23:13 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Jeff Head
Shows you the impact fathers have on daughters, even divorced fathers, doesn't it?

Her mother sounds like a self-centered child. In most cases, the daughter lets go of the mother-daughter conflict in her 20's. Here, the daughter long ago let go of that - it's the mother who won't let it go.

15 posted on 07/30/2008 3:27:07 PM PDT by colorado tanker (Number nine, number nine, number nine . . .)
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To: Jeff Head

Great article. Feminism has done nothing but destroy lives and shatter dreams.


16 posted on 07/30/2008 3:30:13 PM PDT by arderkrag (Libertarian Nutcase (Political Compass Coordinates: 9.00, -2.62 - www.politicalcompass.org))
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To: Jeff Head; devolve

[she was blessed nonetheless to be exposed to her Dad’s side ]

Yes, even a very young child can ‘feel’ the love from someone and will gravitate to that person. She was lucky she had a father like that.

I once worked with one year old children and was amazed to watch their interaction as a group. AND, even the one year old boys liked the cutest girls!! That was a shocker, lol.


17 posted on 07/30/2008 3:31:59 PM PDT by potlatch
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To: GovernmentShrinker
Only a tiny percentage of women are childless. This sort of extremism was hardly taken to heart by an “entire generation”.

Any stats on that?

18 posted on 07/30/2008 3:35:47 PM PDT by Interesting Times (Swiftboating, you say? Check out ToSetTheRecordStraight.com)
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To: Jeff Head

There are many women out there and there will be more that are going to grow very old and very lonely because they bought the feminist, “marriage is slavery and children are a waste of your valuable talents” crap. Too many of my generation 64-50 went to college and “learned” all the feminist crap and then went out and lived it. They didn’t marry or if they did they married Alan Alda-like liberal men and divorced them after 10-12 years to go out and find themselves and become self fulfilled. They are now entering their 60’s and late 50’s with no family, no husband, no children just a cat or a dog and some friends in similar situations. I know a number of these women; teachers, lawyers and other professionals who go home to an empty house and cling to the children and grandchildren of their friends and family members for solace in their loneliness.


19 posted on 07/30/2008 3:38:01 PM PDT by redangus
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To: Jeff Head

What an interesting story! This woman turned out normal despite her mother’s twisted views. It’s obvious that being a woman and mother is inborn in almost all women despite their upbringing.

On the other hand, her mom’s got some serious issues. To not even welcome her grandchild, how weird is that? To just ignore his birth and not have any contact with her daughter/her grandchilds mother. I agree with this woman, she’s better off without her (biological-my term)mother. I just can’t imagine what life would be without my mom. I would hope my children would feel the same about theirs.


20 posted on 07/30/2008 3:39:53 PM PDT by ozarkgirl (If McCain can vote on the basis of principle and conscience over party, so can I.)
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To: redangus
Turned 'em into a bunch, of what we used to call, Old Miads.

Except far too many of these have an attitude and want to run (and ruin) things for the rest of society

21 posted on 07/30/2008 3:41:14 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: redangus
oops, pardon the typo...that's Old Maids.
22 posted on 07/30/2008 3:42:06 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: ozarkgirl
A sad story on the one hand...but redeeming because this girl (I am sure with the help of her Dad's family) found her true nature and path to happiness and reached for it...at the cost of her already unhealthy relationship with her mother.

Who knows, over years, particularly as her mother ages, perhaps the love of a young grandson will first touch and then melt her heart.

I know that the feelings between my six grandkids and myself...their Papa...are among the most joyful of life and I am grateful to be sharing it with their beautiful Nanna, my dear wife.

23 posted on 07/30/2008 3:45:10 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: GovernmentShrinker; Interesting Times

Only a tiny percentage of women are childless. This sort of extremism was hardly taken to heart by an “entire generation”.

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While it is true that only a small percentage are childless, the attitudes of many women — and men — toward motherhood have been warped by the work of the feminists. Look how many view it a waste of time and talent for a woman to stay home and take care of her own children. Instead of pursuing the most important career in the world, a woman is expected to drop her child off to be raised by strangers while she is working outside the home.


24 posted on 07/30/2008 3:45:57 PM PDT by Bigg Red
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To: Jeff Head

Glad she is speaking out, but I hope she marries the child’s father soon.


25 posted on 07/30/2008 3:46:34 PM PDT by Bigg Red
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To: potlatch

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Interesting.....


26 posted on 07/30/2008 3:47:38 PM PDT by devolve ( "Pot had helped, and booze; maybe a little blow when you could afford it." - Elect a cokehead *08 !)
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To: Bigg Red

My thoughts exactly...if they haven’t already. Hopefully, her father’s example with his second wife, will provide the path there as well.


27 posted on 07/30/2008 3:48:35 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Jeff Head
Not to rain on the parade or anything - I'm glad she woke up - but this paragraph caught my attention:
I was raised to believe that women need men like a fish needs a bicycle. But I strongly feel children need two parents and the thought of raising Tenzin without my partner, Glen, 52, would be terrifying.
Is this the future of things? Remember Obambi's talk of 'marriage doesn't mean anything, it's how you feel'?

I assume that her 'partner,' Glen, is neither her husband nor the father of her child.

Couple this with findings that stepfathers and stepdaughters are not always a good combination...

28 posted on 07/30/2008 3:48:43 PM PDT by the anti-liberal
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To: colorado tanker

“Shows you the impact fathers have on daughters, even divorced fathers, doesn’t it?”

And the truth shall set you free. How wonderful that she was finally able make her life into what SHE wanted.

Ironic isn’t it, “Alice” is still encouraging other women to break free, yet is incapable of acknowledging her own daughter’s dreams... : \

Tatt


29 posted on 07/30/2008 3:51:36 PM PDT by thesearethetimes... ("Courage, is fear that has said it's prayers." Dorothy Bernard)
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To: the anti-liberal
Later in the article I think she makes it plain that he is the father (at least that was my read)...but I agree and have the same concerns.

She has made a lot of progress and discovered happiness that would never have occurred with her mother's example...but she still has a ways to go to climb completely out of the web of feminism that had her tangled up.

As myself and anothe rposter on this thread just discussed, we hope that they...and they really need to..get married.

Hoepfully her father's successful, long term second marriage which influenced her so will provide the guidance there as well.

30 posted on 07/30/2008 3:52:17 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: devolve

These liberal women are a strange breed, they live for themselves - me, me, me!

Yes, the experience with a large group of one year olds was amazing. You learn things you don’t ‘see’ with just one or two of them together!


31 posted on 07/30/2008 3:55:21 PM PDT by potlatch
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To: Jeff Head
I saw your posts after I posted.

I hadn't noticed the indication that he's the father. Out-of-wedlock has become almost de rigueur these days, it seems.

There have been studies regarding the oft lack of familial bonding between step parents and children which should get more exposure than it does, though given the bias of today's media and the push for 'gay adoption,' the lack of exposure doesn't surprise me.

32 posted on 07/30/2008 3:59:19 PM PDT by the anti-liberal
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To: Jeff Head
this girl (I am sure with the help of her Dad's family) found her true nature and path to happiness and reached for it

Perhaps, but she stated at 20 she felt a desire to be a mother. I think it's a natural inborn desire for most women to want a baby. I think her "mother" tried to destroy it but wasn't successful.

33 posted on 07/30/2008 4:00:25 PM PDT by ozarkgirl (If McCain can vote on the basis of principle and conscience over party, so can I.)
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To: Jeff Head

And for those who didn’t read the entire article. This girl got birth control at 13-14, became pregnant at 14 anyway and the one “motherly” thing this woman did was to go with her daughter for the abortion of her grandchild.

At 13-14! The mother was aware and thought it was ok for her child to get birth control.

She couldn’t go to the any school events of her own daughter, but she did stand by her daughter in this one occasion.


34 posted on 07/30/2008 4:08:00 PM PDT by ozarkgirl (If McCain can vote on the basis of principle and conscience over party, so can I.)
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To: the anti-liberal
From this paragraph:

"when I met Glen, a teacher, at a seminar five years ago, I knew I had found the man I wanted to have a baby with. Gentle, kind and hugely supportive, he is, as I knew he would be, the most wonderful father."

Not sure if they married...that's not clear. I hope they did. But it seems clear that "Glen" is the father.

35 posted on 07/30/2008 4:18:22 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Jeff Head
Actually, there's an allusion to it, but it's not clear.

It is the most likely conclusion though, I agree.

36 posted on 07/30/2008 4:21:03 PM PDT by the anti-liberal
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To: firebrand; Coleus

ping


37 posted on 07/30/2008 4:24:40 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: Jeff Head

Spinsters.


38 posted on 07/30/2008 4:35:19 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Who would McQueeg rather have mad at him: You or the liberals? FREE LAZAMATAZ!)
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To: thesearethetimes...

From what I’ve read over the years a number of the feminist leaders strike me not as civil rights crusaders so much as narcissists. Alice Waters sure fits that description.


39 posted on 07/30/2008 4:39:15 PM PDT by colorado tanker (Number nine, number nine, number nine . . .)
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To: potlatch

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Strange breed indeed


40 posted on 07/30/2008 4:51:31 PM PDT by devolve ( "Pot had helped, and booze; maybe a little blow when you could afford it." - Elect a cokehead *08 !)
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To: Jeff Head

The Color Purple. It’s not just the title of a book, it’s also what the handprint currently on the side of Alice Walker’s figurative face looks like.

Of course, from the article it also sounds like the daughter has her own share of latent emotional issues.


41 posted on 07/30/2008 5:00:25 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: Jeff Head

The FR search option would have found this for you from a few days ago.


42 posted on 07/30/2008 5:01:16 PM PDT by em2vn
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To: Jeff Head

It is NOT about them (Rug Rats / children) but rather about ME. I am woman, hear me bitch.


43 posted on 07/30/2008 5:07:24 PM PDT by jongaltsr (Hope to See ya in Galt's Gulch.)
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To: devolve

Snicker, I don’t know a thing about that!


44 posted on 07/30/2008 5:09:07 PM PDT by potlatch
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To: potlatch; Jeff Head; devolve; ntnychik; MeekOneGOP; Grampa Dave
The mother is intentionally cruel to her child, displaying psychosis, "I made you; I'll kill you"--yes, that's the stuff of "feminism"--

That "fish without a bicycle" phrase--did that originate with Mommy Dearest? Isn't that an anthem of militant lesbianism, its symbol two fist-ankhs linked.

The most dangerous behaviors are displayed by the unnurtured--it's a miracle and a blessing that this woman was nurtured, apparently by the father, who knew something of human cruelty.

Having her child (not killing him again) and revelling in their mutual love is a major victory of this woman over her evil mother.

How curious Whoopi played in the film, then performed Fellini-Satyricon on the Pelosis:

"We have an older man in the audience who I think is so attractive," said Barbara Walters, one of the show's five female panelists. "You wanna take a look at Nancy Pelosi's handsome husband?" she asked as cameras turned to a bashful Paul Pelosi and the audience cheered. ...

"With Speaker Pelosi now seated with the panel, Walters quipped about Goldberg, "I think she'd like to do your husband."

"Retorted Goldberg, "I would do her as well, but we should wait on that because you're still in office, I don't want to cause a problem."

I received just last week a letter from the correspondence secretary for President Bush thanking me for supporting the Defense of Marriage Act.

On the other hand we have Hillary who had taxpayer-paid nannies for Chelsea, and Michelle who has people for everything.

And page 52 of August 4 People Obama Family Rules 6 "no birthday or Christmas presents for the girls from mommy and daddy"--

The extant thread suggests "fanatical views"--no, no, no,--

No Christmas isn't fanatical--it's Muslim like all Hussein's daddies.

"I don't want my daughters punished with a baby!"

Talk about a sick, dysfunctional family--

--ain't gonna be the First Family.

45 posted on 07/30/2008 5:26:17 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: PhilDragoo; devolve

Very good write Phil.
I do think these women lack some female genes. Do you know that when I was in high school I didn’t even know what a lesbian was!!

I do think many men are taking over the nurturing of their children and in turn receiving the love these manly women they married seen unable to give.

Now - Phil, Phil, Phil, are you sitting around watching THE VIEW?? Lol. Sorry, I have to kid!

I even warned my three daughters about Opera and ‘the women on the view’. My daughters are wonderful mothers and wives.


46 posted on 07/30/2008 5:44:05 PM PDT by potlatch
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To: em2vn; devolve; Jeff Head
The FR search option would have found this for you from a few days ago.

And if it had, we all would be missing out on a very interesting discussion!! We don't all see threads the first time around.

47 posted on 07/30/2008 5:51:49 PM PDT by potlatch
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To: potlatch; Jeff Head
Thanks for pinging me to this woman's story.

I would have missed it if you hadn't alerted me to it.

This is a major, major battle in the culture war.

One side wants to kill the family.

And Western Civilization.

48 posted on 07/30/2008 6:05:54 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: PhilDragoo; devolve

Very good story, I agree.


49 posted on 07/30/2008 6:09:22 PM PDT by potlatch
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To: ozarkgirl
There are two take-home lessons from this account. One: the observing and experiencing of unconditional love from her step-mother was probably the salvific event in her life. The presence of such a person in a child's life has been shown to nurture tremendous resilience despite overwhelming odds.Two: anyone who doubts the mental disturbance characterizing liberals needs to read this again.
50 posted on 07/30/2008 6:22:52 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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