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ABC: McCain “now seriously considering” Lieberman for VP
Hot Air ^ | 7/30/08 | Allahpundit

Posted on 07/30/2008 6:57:53 PM PDT by pissant

He’s going to transform the party — by turning us into hawkish Democrats? Nuance.

There’s a bigger point — and this initial volley, they say, lays the groundwork for it. They will be sharpening McCain’s message that he, not Obama, is the true change agent, a man who’s repeatedly taken unpopular stands, made the hard calls and forged bipartisan alliances.

Part of the calculus now is how his VP choice will further sharpen that message. There is significant support among top McCain advisers that he make a “transformative” pick who would change the Republican Party — someone who would appeal to moderate Republicans and Democrats…

A person who fills that bill, these advisers say, is Joe Lieberman.

Lieberman, an Independent Democrat, flatly denied his interest to ABC’s Ron Claiborne earlier this month, but McCain is now seriously considering him as that “transformative” pick, sources tell ABC News…

What’s more, some McCain advisers believe Lieberman would dramatically enhance the point they are now trying to make about Obama in this “celebrity” ad campaign.

McCain and Lieberman are anti-celebrities, the argument goes. They have, as one top adviser said, felt the heat after taking unpopular positions because they were willing to do “what’s right for the country” — whatever it meant for their own popularity.

Good news for that unpredictable five percent in the middle he needs to win, not so good for, er, everyone else in America. Are evangelicals going to vote for a guy who scored 100% on NARAL’s annual report card? Are Reagan conservatives jittery about McCain’s maverickiness going to feel reassured knowing Al Gore’s choice for VP is waiting in the wings? Is the left going to reach hitherto unscaled heights of apoplexy at the thought of the one pol they hate more than George Bush somehow ending up on the Republican ticket? (No, no, and yes, respectively, if you’re scoring at home.) Think of it in practical terms. Assume the worst happens and through some misfortune Vice President Lieberman becomes President Lieberman. Either the Democrats’ animus towards him results in hopeless gridlock in Congress or the breach is healed and we’ve got a lefty executive working with a lefty legislature towards common goals — Iraq excepted, of course. I like Liebs; I don’t like the idea. But the signs are there if you’re willing to look…

Exit question: Maybe the left, true to its proud tradition of honoring dissent, will forgive Joementum his apostasy? Hmmm.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008veep; joementum; lieberman; mccain; mccainlist; mccaintruthfile; poorpoorrinos; rino; transformative; veep2008
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1 posted on 07/30/2008 6:57:53 PM PDT by pissant
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To: pissant

Noooooo! Not Holy Joe!


2 posted on 07/30/2008 6:58:43 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of the Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: pissant

fwiw indeed. ;o)


3 posted on 07/30/2008 7:01:23 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: pissant

“Assume the worst happens and through some misfortune Vice President Lieberman becomes President Lieberman.”

Exactly why Lieberman can NOT be the VP pick.


4 posted on 07/30/2008 7:01:38 PM PDT by kalee
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To: pissant

Wrong!

No John, just say no.


5 posted on 07/30/2008 7:02:18 PM PDT by garyhope (It's World War IV, right here, right now, courtesy of Islam. TWP VRWC)
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To: pissant

What a bunch of crap from ABC. Not even John McCain is that arrogant or stupid.

I like Joe L for who he is. But there would be no way for McCain to recover the base of the party if he did that.


6 posted on 07/30/2008 7:02:32 PM PDT by Truth is a Weapon (Truth, it hurts soooo good!)
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To: pissant
Never going to happen.

It would be political suicide for both men.

7 posted on 07/30/2008 7:02:33 PM PDT by comebacknewt
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To: mylife
It's a very risky choice. I like Joe, but I think McCain would probably be better off w/ Romney.

FuzzySnake.com


8 posted on 07/30/2008 7:02:39 PM PDT by GaryLee1990 (www.FuzzySnake.com)
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To: pissant

Shxx!


9 posted on 07/30/2008 7:02:41 PM PDT by golfisnr1 (Democrats are like roaches - hard to get rid of.)
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To: mylife

This is MSM BS, it would be easier to make Lieberman Secretary of State than VEEP.


10 posted on 07/30/2008 7:03:10 PM PDT by Patrick1
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To: pissant

Gag! What’s Obama gonna do - pick Duncan Hunter?


11 posted on 07/30/2008 7:03:55 PM PDT by loungeSerf (Hi-Yield Bureaucrat Farming - Hillary or Obama 08)
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To: pissant

I got Mass Respect For Joe

I will not Vote for Joe,End Of Story............


12 posted on 07/30/2008 7:04:05 PM PDT by cmsgop ( Axis of Evil = Iran , North Korea , Rob and Amber)
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To: GaryLee1990

Your site?


13 posted on 07/30/2008 7:04:26 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of the Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: pissant

Not gonna happen.


14 posted on 07/30/2008 7:04:30 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (Obama (Marxist), Manchuria)
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To: pissant

Holy Cow! I’ve already got a clothespin on my nose, blinders on my eyes, and earplugs in my ears just to be able to vote McCain. This is getting to be too much.


15 posted on 07/30/2008 7:04:32 PM PDT by TruthSlayer
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To: pissant
They will be sharpening McCain’s message that he, not Obama, is the true change double agent, a man who’s repeatedly taken unpopular moronic stands, made the hard RINO calls and forged bipartisan destructive alliances.

There, fixed it

16 posted on 07/30/2008 7:04:37 PM PDT by tx_eggman (Privatizing profits and socializing losses is no way to run an economy)
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To: pissant
a “transformative” pick who would change the Republican Party

Yeah, into a wing of the dem party. McCain and Joe should show up at the dem convention and try to pull a coup.

17 posted on 07/30/2008 7:05:00 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: pissant

Joe switched from being a Socialist Democrat to a Socialist Independent, that doesn’t make him less of a Socialist.


18 posted on 07/30/2008 7:05:24 PM PDT by c-b 1 (Reporting from behind enemy lines, in occupied AZTLAN.)
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To: pissant

I’ve always thought that McCain doesn’t really want to win- but now I’m convinced he really wants to lose.


19 posted on 07/30/2008 7:05:38 PM PDT by TravisBickle (Are you talkin' to me?)
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To: kalee
Lieberman for GOP VP?? This has to be a liberal proposing this. After all, would your enemies make suggestions they hope will actually work?? I can think of no surer way to reverse Obama’s falling poll numbers than to put Joe on the ticket.

If McClain does, he will forever cement in the minds of the American voter that the GOP has finally found its George McGovern.

20 posted on 07/30/2008 7:05:40 PM PDT by MCCRon58 (Freedom does not mean you are free from the consequences of your own freely made decisions.)
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To: mylife

I trust Joe Lieberman infinitly more than I trust some Republicans. He had the balls to run as an independent in one of the most liberal states in the country and beat Ned LaMont, who was the party’s choice.

In winning, he totally blew the theory that the 2006 election was a referendum on the war!

Yes, he’s a social liberal, yet he’s on our side on the important issue of national defense. I like him, and I would take him as VP any day over a Obama White House. Whatever it takes to beat Obama is fine by me.


21 posted on 07/30/2008 7:06:14 PM PDT by Hillary'sMoralVoid
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To: pissant

I call BS. Sounds like a Dem script for disheartening conservatives.


22 posted on 07/30/2008 7:06:24 PM PDT by visualops (artlife.us -nature photography desktop wallpapers)
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To: pissant
No. Please no. Please. No.

Lieberman's ACU rating in 2007 was 8.

Obama's was 7.

23 posted on 07/30/2008 7:06:24 PM PDT by TheWasteLand
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To: pissant

A week or so ago, I had a dream that this happened. :(
Wouldn’t put it past the bipartisan maverick to do something like running with a Dem. But what good would it do him?


24 posted on 07/30/2008 7:06:34 PM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Homeschooled and homeschooling.)
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To: pissant

Competing trial balloons—first Romney, then Pawlenty, Romney again, and now Lieberman. This really is getting old...


25 posted on 07/30/2008 7:07:03 PM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!"--Duncan Hunter)
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To: Patrick1

I dont see it happening


26 posted on 07/30/2008 7:07:12 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of the Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: pissant

Ah, yes … the rumor mill grinds on. ;-)


27 posted on 07/30/2008 7:07:28 PM PDT by doc1019 (I was taught to respect my elders, but it's getting harder to find one.)
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To: pissant

I call B.S.


28 posted on 07/30/2008 7:07:52 PM PDT by sarasota
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To: kalee; pissant

Lieberman would be orders of magnitude better than the obamanation the DemocRATS are nominating.


29 posted on 07/30/2008 7:08:38 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Drill Here. Drill Now. Pay Less.)
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To: pissant

McCain/Lieberman UUUUUKKKK! The KISS of Boring Antiques, each can put you to sleep faster than a bottle of AMBIEN!
Please tell alll this is a wild butt rumor being started by the Idiot Dodd.:-)


30 posted on 07/30/2008 7:09:00 PM PDT by NOBAMA in 08 (An Empty Suited Opportunist with No Redeeming Value!)
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To: Hillary'sMoralVoid

I’m currently planning on joining the ‘Getdrunkandvote4McCain’ crowd.

Lieberman as VP would push me in to the ‘VoteObamaandhopeitisn’tallbad’ crowd.


31 posted on 07/30/2008 7:09:04 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (Old, pale and stale - McCain in 2008! but we're only one vote away from losing the 2nd amendment...)
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To: doc1019
I really can't see this happening. I think it's some sort of joke. McCain just won't do that.

FuzzySnake.com


32 posted on 07/30/2008 7:09:07 PM PDT by GaryLee1990 (www.FuzzySnake.com)
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To: pissant
I smell BS. The two camps are spreading rumors about their VP picks in an attempt to goad their opponent into making a hasty, and most likely poor, decision about their own VP pick.

McCain MUST pick a woman, IMHO.

33 posted on 07/30/2008 7:09:45 PM PDT by lesser_satan (Cthulu '08! Why vote for the lesser evil?)
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To: pissant

This is what happens when the various factions of the party all insist on voting for their ideal candidate in the primaries. The moral of the story is that a good way to get the opposite of what you want is to insist on full and complete satisfaction of all your requirements.

United we stand. Divided we fall.


34 posted on 07/30/2008 7:09:53 PM PDT by sourcery (Social Justice. n. 1. Enslavement of those who work for the benefit of those who don't.)
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To: pissant

If this is true, I’m moving to Costa Rica.


35 posted on 07/30/2008 7:10:24 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (BARACK OBAMA WILL SAVE US! HE HAS RISEN!!)
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To: Hillary'sMoralVoid

“Whatever it takes to beat Obama is fine by me.”

McCain should pick Hillary then.


36 posted on 07/30/2008 7:11:48 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: lesser_satan
McCain must pick a woman

That's the worst advice yet.

37 posted on 07/30/2008 7:12:04 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant
I do not believe this. ABC is trying to influence things again.

However,FWIW, if McCain were to do this, he would absolutely lose my support and vote...which is being given very reluctantly as it is and only in an effort to defeat Obama.

But by putting an abortionist on the ticket with him, one heart beat from the Presidency, he would lose what I am willing to do.

38 posted on 07/30/2008 7:12:16 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: pissant
Lieberman McCain's VEEP choice? Nah.

Too conservative.

(only kidding)

This is a red herring. McCain will pick hopefully pick someone who is a telegenic live wire, and who has nothing to do with the Congress.

39 posted on 07/30/2008 7:12:35 PM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: Truth is a Weapon
Not even John McCain is that arrogant or stupid.

I respectfully disagree.

John McCain is that arrogant.

But John McCain is not that stupid.

40 posted on 07/30/2008 7:12:41 PM PDT by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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To: pissant
...sources tell ABC News…

LOL!

41 posted on 07/30/2008 7:13:08 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: pissant

If the McPresident candidate chooses Lieberman as his VP, that’ll be it for me. As things stand now, I’ll hhold my nose and pull the lever for him but sliding further to the left is too much. At this point, I will vote for a third party candidate - the game’s over anyway.


42 posted on 07/30/2008 7:13:13 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Don't cheer for Obama too hard - the krinton syndicate is moving back into the WH.)
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To: pissant

It’s possible that two old men could say the right things enough times to capture the public imagination. /sarc


43 posted on 07/30/2008 7:13:17 PM PDT by Brian S. Fitzgerald
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To: Paleo Conservative
Lieberman would be orders of magnitude better than the obamanation the DemocRATS are nominating.

Why not go further and let McCain pick Hillary then? After all, Hillary voted for the war too.

I knew that FReepers would start spewing this "he's still better than Obama" BS. If McCain picks Lieberman, I'M STAYING HOME.

44 posted on 07/30/2008 7:14:33 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (BARACK OBAMA WILL SAVE US! HE HAS RISEN!!)
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To: pissant

McCain will not pick Lieberman...


45 posted on 07/30/2008 7:14:34 PM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: pissant

a Classic case of don’t believe everything you hear...

However, I wouldn’t be surprised if “Joe” got a good spot on the administration - I’d love to see the Rats swallow their teeth with that


46 posted on 07/30/2008 7:14:36 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (No trees were killed in sending this message but a large number of electrons were terrible agitated)
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To: pissant

Not in a million years but if he does I’m done.


47 posted on 07/30/2008 7:15:09 PM PDT by pgkdan (Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions - G.K. Chesterton)
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To: pissant

McCain is beating Obama in ‘likely vote’ polls.

ABC had to make-up something to try and undermine McCain.


48 posted on 07/30/2008 7:15:21 PM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: pissant
sources tell ABC News…

Who? Katie Couric?

49 posted on 07/30/2008 7:15:25 PM PDT by eyedigress
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To: pissant

Why, because it rules out Duncan?


50 posted on 07/30/2008 7:15:41 PM PDT by lesser_satan (Cthulu '08! Why vote for the lesser evil?)
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