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Forget Train Wreck; Obama Is a Jet Crash
Pajamas Media ^ | July 31, 2008 | Kyle-Anne Shiver

Posted on 07/31/2008 10:44:43 AM PDT by AJKauf

Some think a President Obama will help America by reinvigorating conservatism. They're playing with fire.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: apologistsforjuan; obama; poorpoorrinos

1 posted on 07/31/2008 10:44:43 AM PDT by AJKauf
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To: AJKauf

While folks do survive train wrecks and walk away to pick up the pieces and rebuild, surviving an Obama-style change jet crash, in my opinion, may not leave enough surviving elements of our Constitution, our economy, or our defense to allow for any sort of American renewal.


2 posted on 07/31/2008 10:52:20 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3 ('GOP' : Get Our Petroleum)
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To: TornadoAlley3

Absolutely correct...it’s not worth finding out, regardless.


3 posted on 07/31/2008 10:56:30 AM PDT by Hildy
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To: AJKauf
We are fighting a war against Islamic Jihad who want nuclear weapons and will use them as soon as they lay their hands on them. Thousand sof our brave troops have died conatining these animlas and killing them by the hundreds of thousands. We cannot afford an Obama administration that will retreat in this fight and make a terrorist nuclear holocaust much more likely.

We are on the verge, after over 35 years of slaughter of the unborn, of getting a supreme court that will over turn the abomoination of Roe V. Wade and rule in favor of life in any number of other areas surrounding this issue. Entire lives have been spen and dedicated to this, and millions of babies have died. We cannot afford to let Obama make supreme court choices that will turn that around.

On top of those issues, Obama has proven on virtually every issue, by his own voting positions when it counted in the IL and US senate, and by his willful, long term associations with unrepentant domestic terrorists, militant hate-America black activist preachers, corrupt political financeres, and many others that he is a militant anti-American himself and an abject marxist.

Obama must be defeated, and defeated soundly in his aspirations to be President.

OBAMA'S DIVERSE VISION OF AMERICA



THE AUDACITY OF TRUTH ABOUT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA

4 posted on 07/31/2008 10:56:37 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: AJKauf

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2014469/posts


5 posted on 07/31/2008 10:58:20 AM PDT by Perdogg
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To: TornadoAlley3

Yeah, that’s true, but the “true” conservatives here at Free Republic can pat themselves on the back for sticking to their principles in not voting for McCain because he’s “not a conservative.”


6 posted on 07/31/2008 11:01:00 AM PDT by RayBob (If guns kill people, can I blame misspelled words on my keyboard?)
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To: TornadoAlley3
I think over time, maybe, we would survive in the long run, meaning it might take 50, or a 100 years at least. If Obama gets in, I do see it as the beginnings of a possible civil war down the line where the country will break up and cease to exist in it's present form. Then after some rebuilding you might see America restored in some for or another, perhaps with the States having more power and the Constitution back, sort of like how America was pre-Civil War. I can see this happening but there will be a lot of hurt in the meantime, maybe even some form of an atomic war. Hopefully the muzzies won't gain much power to stifle or stop this effort, in a way, they are a wild card.

Don't know if you ever heard of the time traveller from 2036 named John Titor, but he spells out a similar scenario of what I put forth. Well, I don't rule out time travel, I believe in keeping an open mind, but until I see a little more proof, I'm a bit dubious on that. Most likely, the John Titor sites and stories are put out by some person or group with conservative, religious, and libertarian elements (the story contains all three) put out as a warning of what could happen if we keep going down this route of being takers form the government without watching out for ourselves and/or giving things back. My own take, I don't have anything against a welfare system as a safety net for those who are unable to work, of course that would be verified, but for those who can, they would be in training for jobs or out cleaning parks and "doing jobs Americans won't do."
7 posted on 07/31/2008 11:03:13 AM PDT by Nowhere Man (Is Barak HUSSEIN Obama an Anti-Christ? - B.O. Stinks! (Robert Riddle))
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To: AJKauf

Some other thoughts, a lot of people seem to think that Obama will begat the next Reagan. I have my doubts although the only one I can think up offhand is Bobby Jindal and right now, he is a weak spot on my otherwise clear radar scope.


8 posted on 07/31/2008 11:07:03 AM PDT by Nowhere Man (Is Barak HUSSEIN Obama an Anti-Christ? - B.O. Stinks! (Robert Riddle))
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To: Nowhere Man
f Obama gets in, I do see it as the beginnings of a possible civil war down the line where the country will break up and cease to exist in it's present form. Then after some rebuilding you might see America restored in some for or another, perhaps with the States having more power and the Constitution back, sort of like how America was pre-Civil War.

We would be picked over and fought over by the hyenas who are waiting.

Then, we have the NEW Old Soviet Union, China, and all the Muslim states.

It cannot come to that. The war is here and now.

9 posted on 07/31/2008 11:16:44 AM PDT by Gorzaloon
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To: RayBob

Yeah, a pat on their back and their feelings are after all more important than their country.


10 posted on 07/31/2008 11:31:03 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3 ('GOP' : Get Our Petroleum)
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To: Nowhere Man

I believe in Time Travel—I have met the Mullet Man who has traveled to the future (or so he says) and its a grim fascist sort of place. I have no doubt its the sort of USSR kind of America Obama would have us live in. Time travel or not—the risk is just too great to elect old Big Ears.


11 posted on 07/31/2008 11:38:34 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: TornadoAlley3

Some think a President Obama will help America by reinvigorating conservatism. They’re playing with fire.”

WELL written article, complete and comprehensive in all the realities of what a BHO victory means to the United States of America. Everyone needs to read this entire article!!

It’s truly Life or Death to stop b. hussein obama in November. If not, there will be nothing left to salvage by 2012, as the enlightened author states, and I keep harping on as well. She just put all my scattered thoughts together, eloquently.


12 posted on 07/31/2008 11:45:38 AM PDT by llandres (I'd rather be alive and bankrupt than dead and solvent)
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To: Nowhere Man

“Some other thoughts, a lot of people seem to think that Obama will begat the next Reagan”.

The grammatically correct term is “beget”.

Wow, unbelievable - guess some people just can’t, or refuse to, comprehend the dire but absolute truths in what the original article writer stated so very accurately.

Scary.


13 posted on 07/31/2008 11:55:41 AM PDT by llandres (I'd rather be alive and bankrupt than dead and solvent)
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To: AJKauf

To my conservative friends who will stay home or vote for a 3rd party candidate, Michelle and I wish you the very best.

Kind regards,
Barack


14 posted on 07/31/2008 11:56:15 AM PDT by Ben Chad
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To: AJKauf

Maybe the best way to look at it is McCain is 20% right but Obama is 200% wrong.


15 posted on 07/31/2008 12:02:50 PM PDT by NewHampshireDuo (Earth - Taking care of itself since 4.6 billion BC)
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To: RayBob
Yeah, that’s true, but the “true” conservatives here at Free Republic can pat themselves on the back for sticking to their principles in not voting for McCain because he’s “not a conservative.”

That and one's ration card will buy them a cup of coffee at McComrades after the election.

16 posted on 07/31/2008 12:03:12 PM PDT by TennTuxedo
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To: Hildy
You don't win by losing.

If someone sat down in an interview with this attitude, you would throw them out of your office. Can you imagine? "Well my plan is to make things so bad and to let the stock fall so low that it can only go up!" That person would find their resume in my office trashcan.

17 posted on 07/31/2008 12:07:52 PM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: Nowhere Man
The next Obama will begat the next Reagan? Childish thinking on its face.

Reagan had been running for president since 1968. He just did not pop out of the air.

18 posted on 07/31/2008 12:09:33 PM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: AJKauf

Hoping for an Obama win in order to re-invigorate conservatism is like throwing a nuclear grenade at your enemy.


19 posted on 07/31/2008 12:17:57 PM PDT by mikey_hates_everything
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To: Nowhere Man
I believe that her point is the "win by losing" idea will not work as the left will use an Obamination election as a method to lock up their socialist agenda. They will stack the court and establish “rights” by judicial decree. These will be “positive” rights such as the right to health care, a job, a house, etc. Once the court decrees these rights, just like Roe vs Wade, there is no turning back.

So even if we do elect another “Reagan”, it will be too late. The point is a good one.

schu

20 posted on 07/31/2008 12:20:44 PM PDT by schu
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To: TornadoAlley3

Yes I agree. I have yet again flipped and decided to vote for McCain. It’s really not as much a vote for McCain than a vote against Obama (it’s the only way I can stomach it). As bad as McCain could be it can’t hold a candle to the travshamockery of an Obama presidency.


21 posted on 07/31/2008 12:24:32 PM PDT by Toadman ((molon labe))
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To: AJKauf

Great post and words of reality.

I have posted so many times, that there will be no next time if Obama is elected.

The various forms of weapons now did not exist 10 or 20 years ago.

The enemy that exists now thinks nothing of piloting jet airliners into high rise and government bldgs. killing 3,000 in one day.

Would anyone believe this would happen 15 or 25 years ago.

There is no starting over this time if Obama is elected.


22 posted on 07/31/2008 12:24:42 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Don't Blame Me - I Supported Duncan Hunter)
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To: Ben Chad

Dear Osama Bin Ladin,

Just to give You a well earned progress report on my progress in ursurping The Presidency of The United States.
First, Thank you millions, for the Hundreds of Millions of Dollars You have so generously raised and contributed to my Campaign thru your diverse “Religious Organizations.” I never thought we could get away with it, but these people are such stupid, bitter, ignorant fools that I am able to con the scum with any propaganda I wish. Most of them even go to church, carry rifles and drive Red Pickups, how disgusting! As to your fit within my Administration, Binny, I am thinking You will make a Great Secretary of Defense, but if You want STATE its all yours. I guarantee We are going to make a Great 58th Caliphate!!

Yours for the Revolution,
Obie XXOOXX


23 posted on 07/31/2008 12:31:02 PM PDT by NOBAMA in 08 (An Empty Suited Opportunist with No Redeeming Value!)
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To: AJKauf

Those who say that Obama is like Jimmy Carter and will help usher in another Reagan forget that not even Reagan was able to fix all of Carter’s massive screwups - not Iran, not the Panama Canal, not the erosion of US intelligence capabilities, not the propping up of violent leftists in Latin America & Africa & Asia. And Carter never got a chance to appoint Supreme Court justices. The next president will appoint 1-3 justices.

Obama is Carter squared...
To infinity...
Plus shipping & handling.


24 posted on 07/31/2008 12:52:21 PM PDT by sanchmo
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To: llandres

“Wow, unbelievable - guess some people just can’t, or refuse to, comprehend the dire but absolute truths in what the original article writer stated so very accurately”

True.
You don’t want to give Obama a shot at bat.
He could just connect and hit a homer (for HIS side, that is).

- John


25 posted on 07/31/2008 1:14:25 PM PDT by Fishrrman
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To: Fishrrman

He could just connect and hit a homer (for HIS side, that is).”

He’d certainly have LOTS of help - all from our enemies, both foreign and domestic, who hate this country and all it stands for.


26 posted on 07/31/2008 1:20:59 PM PDT by llandres (I'd rather be alive and bankrupt than dead and solvent)
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To: SoCalPol

SCP - once again you’re correct. There will be NO second chance this time.


27 posted on 07/31/2008 2:15:26 PM PDT by llandres (I'd rather be alive and bankrupt than dead and solvent)
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To: KC_Conspirator

LOL! You couldn’t be more right on.


28 posted on 07/31/2008 4:15:17 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: Gorzaloon
We would be picked over and fought over by the hyenas who are waiting.

Then, we have the NEW Old Soviet Union, China, and all the Muslim states.

It cannot come to that. The war is here and now.


Agreed, that's why I'm voting for McCain, he might have his faults but at least he understands that we do need a good defense and will fight the war on terror.
29 posted on 07/31/2008 9:22:55 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (Is Barak HUSSEIN Obama an Anti-Christ? - B.O. Stinks! (Robert Riddle))
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To: Forward the Light Brigade
I believe in Time Travel—I have met the Mullet Man who has traveled to the future (or so he says) and its a grim fascist sort of place. I have no doubt its the sort of USSR kind of America Obama would have us live in. Time travel or not—the risk is just too great to elect old Big Ears.

Well, even Titor says that the future can be changed and you can hop from one timeline to another. Still, I don't have that ability so I have to do my best to help McCain get in and keep Obama out.
30 posted on 07/31/2008 9:37:01 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (Is Barak HUSSEIN Obama an Anti-Christ? - B.O. Stinks! (Robert Riddle))
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To: KC_Conspirator; llandres
The next Obama will begat the next Reagan? Childish thinking on its face.

Reagan had been running for president since 1968. He just did not pop out of the air.


I think Reagan had Presidential ambitions since 1966 when he became Governor of California, maybe before that with the 1964 Republican Convention. So from that time to 1976 when he really became a serious contender but it was like 10/12 and when he finally won, 14/16 years. I guess it takes a while to build it up although one can come out of nowhere (not the "nowhere" I come from B-)) much like Carter, Clinton to an extent and Obama-Osama-lama-ding-dong. If you came to me in 1984 or even 2000/2004 and said Obama would be the President, I'd laugh you all the way to the funny farm. B-P
31 posted on 08/01/2008 8:17:12 AM PDT by Nowhere Man (Is Barak HUSSEIN Obama an Anti-Christ? - B.O. Stinks! (Robert Riddle))
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To: schu
I believe that her point is the "win by losing" idea will not work as the left will use an Obamination election as a method to lock up their socialist agenda. They will stack the court and establish “rights” by judicial decree. These will be “positive” rights such as the right to health care, a job, a house, etc. Once the court decrees these rights, just like Roe vs Wade, there is no turning back.

So even if we do elect another “Reagan”, it will be too late. The point is a good one.


I know with the Supreme Court, we had a major victory with the 2nd Amendment, even though by one vote, but a victory is a victory. We could be close to overturning Roe vs. Wade. The Supreme Court is my #1 issue, a lot of the Justices are getting old, one of them has been there since I was a kid, others when I was in college. I'm 42 now. So we are in a shaky position.
32 posted on 08/01/2008 8:26:27 AM PDT by Nowhere Man (Is Barak HUSSEIN Obama an Anti-Christ? - B.O. Stinks! (Robert Riddle))
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To: Nowhere Man
Even with the present makeup of the court, the risk is very high that a “Roe v Wade” ruling for “Health Care as a right” is still very possible. We need 6-7 Constitutional judges to insure this does not happen.

The author of the article is right on, if these “rights” are established by judicial fiat, then they will exist infinitum. A showdown between the Judicial and Legislative branch would then be possible, but how many Congressman will have the fortitude to take Health Care away from the poor?

schu

33 posted on 08/01/2008 9:48:15 AM PDT by schu
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