Skip to comments.Olbermann: NRA 'Trying to Increase Deaths,' 2nd Amendment is for Muskets
Posted on 07/31/2008 8:36:27 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
On Wednesday's Countdown show, MSNBC host Keith Olbermann claimed that pro-gun groups like the NRA "are trying to increase deaths by gun," as he used his "Worst Person" segment to attack a gun rights activist who infiltrated gun control groups to spy on them: "Mary Lou Sapone infiltrated the executive boards and learned the plans of organizations trying to decrease deaths by gun in this country, and apparently reported it back to organizations like the NRA, which are trying to increase deaths by gun in this country." A month earlier, on the June 26 show, after the Supreme Court struck down Washington, D.C.'s handgun ban, Olbermann named Justice Antonin Scalia, whom he called a "clown," as "Worst Person" as the Countdown host ridiculously claimed that the Second Amendment only applies to the types of weapons that existed in 1791, like muskets, to be used in a militia.
Olbermann: "You've got around 30,000 gun deaths in this country per year, another 75,000 non-fatal gun wounds, half the suicides are by gun; and this clown and his four colleagues decided that the 32-year-old ban on handguns in Washington, D.C., and the demand that firearms kept in the home be locked or disassembled was unconstitutional based on the Second Amendment." (Transcripts follow)
The Countdown host continued: "Despite years of fog created by the NRA and right-wing organizations, that isn't very complicated: For the purposes of forming a state militia, you're entitled to keep and bear arms. Obviously, those would have to be the kind of arms in use in 1791, when the Bill of Rights was passed -- the musket, the wheel-lock, the flint lock, the 13th century Chinese hand cannon. Stuff like that. Scalia, of course, simply decided that the militia part of the Second Amendment is some sort of quaint anachronism that he could happily ignore. And there's the beautiful thing about our country -- they say anybody can grow up to be a Supreme Court justice. And in Antonin Scalia, there's your proof, and tonight's 'Worst Person in the World'!"
Below are transcripts of relevant portions of the July 30 and the June 26 Countdown show on MSNBC:
#From the July 30 Countdown:
KEITH OLBERMANN: The runnerup, Mary McFate, also known as Mary Lou Sapone. Mother Jones magazine reports this today. Ms. McFate is a 60-something woman, a quirky but constant participant in gun control organizations, like the Brady Campaign. Ms. Sapone is a 60-something woman, a former figure in the National Rifle Association and wealthy pro-gun activist. The magazine says they're the same person. As Mary McFate, Mary Lou Sapone infiltrated the executive boards and learned the plans of organizations trying to decrease deaths by gun in this country, and apparently reported it back to organizations like the NRA, which are trying to increase deaths by gun in this country. In other words, she was a Benedict Arnold for the gun lobby.
#From the June 26 Countdown:
KEITH OLBERMANN: And our winner, Justice Antonin Scalia of the Supreme Court. You've got around 30,000 gun deaths in this country per year, another 75,000 non-fatal gun wounds, half the suicides are by gun; and this clown and his four colleagues decided that the 32-year-old ban on handguns in Washington, D.C., and the demand that firearms kept in the home be locked or disassembled was unconstitutional based on the Second Amendment. You remember the Second Amendment: "A well-regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." Despite years of fog created by the NRA and right-wing organizations, that isn`t very complicated: For the purposes of forming a state militia, you're entitled to keep and bear arms. Obviously, those would have to be the kind of arms in use in 1791, when the Bill of Rights was passed -- the musket, the wheel-lock, the flint lock, the 13th century Chinese hand canon. Stuff like that. Scalia, of course, simply decided that the militia part of the Second Amendment is some sort of quaint anachronism that he could happily ignore. And there's the beautiful thing about our country -- they say anybody can grow up to be a Supreme Court justice. And in Antonin Scalia, there's your proof, and tonight's "Worst Person in the World"!
Thusly, free speech should be limited to tracts printed on hand-operated presses!
not to forget the 1st amendment demands that obermann practice journalism
by word of mouth and crow quill pen and ink.
No one takes this asshole seriously, least of all his colleagues who know that Keith would rather hear a fat boy fart than pretty girl sing. After Alan Alda and Phil Donahue, Olbermann is the third male in history to be diagnosed with vagina envy. God, what a monumental nonentity.
oh and ben franklin might print off a few of his screeds.
I wonder what kind and how many guns Olbermann owns. The most outspoken anti-gunners are almost always closet gun owners, which makes them elitist hypocrites of the worst kind.
you stole my thunder
Hmmm... Olberman if we played it your way there'd be no use having a weapon to protect one's self.
So in your world do the perp thugz get to roam the streets with unlocked, assembled weapons to go fire free zone on the sheeple?
I can describe Olbermann’s future in four words:
“White House Press Secretary”
Equal rights are for white, land owning, protestants.
If that’s the way he wants to see it!
Not to mention, that given the state of medical treatment in 1780, flintlocks were MORE dangerous than today's weapons. Any hit in a limb resulted in amputation or death, any torso hit resulted in agonizing death. And even back then, there were "assault weapons" capable of spewing out dozens of deadly pellets: google the blunderbuss. That bell shaped muzzle was for rapidly loading a half pound of lead or iron chunks.
This thread has probably doubled his name recognition.
We’d know if Olbermann owned a gun. He would have shot some unfortunate delivery guy or maybe a limo driver who hadn’t restocked the bar in the back of the car.
Now if they'd just send in a bunch of Federal Marshals to enforce it's order on the scofflaws of the DC Council.
Sure. And the 4th Amendment can’t possibly apply to electronic eavesdropping.
OMG! This Asshat actually said it! “the 2nd Amendement is about flintlocks”
How is this idiot taken seriously?
You’d be surprised how far liberals will go.
I guess liberals only believe the Constitution is a “living, breathing document” when it breaths in their favor. Everyday, their hypocrisy becomes more and more clear.
I hope the idiot keeps flapping his gums.
Obama will lose for sure.
Let them chatter.
The freedom of the press only applies to Guttenberg style printing presses. Not comedy/strip clubs, internetz, tv...
Keith is a f%cking moron.
Criminals do not join the NRA, GOA, JPFO, etc. They also don’t care about any gun laws.
They ought to fire that putz for being deliberately ignorant.
These people aren’t delusional. They are Insane!
Now Mac, That would be barbaric /s
I think you’re all wrong, Keith has a heartfelt and profound respect for the 35% percent of the US constitution that he agrees with.
Ahem, ah, Keith, they didn’t have television when they wrote the 1 st amendment dude.
Olbermann is a flaming bag of crap on Americas door step.
What a joke!
But.. but..the rabid left adores him.
Decreasing death by guns wont decrease deaths. Men who commit suicide most of the time choose guns. Not having access to a gun wont stop them. These phonies with their crooked studies are shameless.
These idiots think nothing of the deaths related to automobiles.
Wait....St Barack says bicycle paths are the answer...a new revelation.
I cant believe i never saw the truth before!
Jeez, now who's the “clown”?
Throwing rocks is “noble”
Slinging crap is even better. The Left is truly insane.
Creepy little vermin with creepy self loathing ideas.
Olberboy is the TV spokesman of the looney left. The very fact that this snide, lying weasel is the face man for the moonbats should totally discredit anything he says or they believe. No wonder even Chrissy Matthews can’t stand him. He’s a brain-damaged, failed sportscaster who can’t even drive a car and was fired by Fox, hence his imaginary feud with O’reilly and Murdoch. I’m surprised he doesn’t make the Drudge report every few days for getting his ass kicked in some public place. Apparently he avoids them.
Actually, I’m also surprised he named somebody besides a Fox News employee to his “worst” list. His guests always come from the far left, and look like the old-time Bolsheviks seen in the photos with Lenin. Olberboy’s set is Commie nerd heaven.
I did not think MSNBC would get worse under that dandy Abrhams....I was wrong.
Why are sports writers and commentators always so PC?
*i already know the answer
1. Several million Jews that Hitler murdered. He took their weapons first.
2. About 20 million Russians that Stalin murdered. He took their weapons first.
3. About 60 million Chinese that Mao murdered. He took their weapons first.
4 About 2-3 million Cambodians that Pol Pot murdered. He took their weapons first.
5. God only knows how many Africans have been murdered by their governments. They always took the weapons first.
Mr. Oberman, “A man without a weapon is not a citizen, he is a serf, slave or worse.”
Good to see you cpdiii.
Your words are the truth.
The woman deserves the medal of valor.
Willfully subjecting herself to the mental rot that permeates the anti-gun lobby - risking her own sanity - just to expose their lies and help protect our rights, what's not heroic about that?
I was pleased to discover that Daryl and Toni are still
married after all these years.
Obviously? Don't ever call on HIS right to a Free Press, even though instant mass communication wasn't in 1791 - obviously.
Considering the NRA has had training programs and safety programs for much of its existence, this ought to be an actionable statement.
Sue them for defamation.
The average two-year-old in the midst of throwing a temper tantrum is more rational and logical than Olberman on his best day. The nonsense he spews is so convoluted and inane that counterarguments are futile; it’s like trying to reason with a rabid dog.