Posted on 07/31/2008 9:50:53 PM PDT by DGHoodini
Can only post link, due to copyright stipulations:
http://www.smh.com.au/news/science/anorak-fabric-a-boost-for-fuel-cells/2008/08/01/1217097479505.html
Oh and BTW, if my math is correct, that $2,000 for the Platinum, works out to about $50.50 of the Anaorak..if it works out after all. Almost 2 grand off the sticker price right there.
It just struck me, that if they vcan develop a system to use sunlight to split water into hydrogen and oxygen, anf if theyt have indeed found a significant amount of water on Mars, this would be able to support a Mars base with not only water, but air, and power, without having to transport it from Earth. Heck, the soil might even be used in a greenhouse to grow food.
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I don’t think they found water on mars. The ‘lab’ doesn’t support the observation that ‘some light colored particles vanished’. They also could have changed color after exposure to elements in the atmosphere.
Besides, even if they do find a few particles of water, it easily could have got there from a comet impacting the planet.
Certainly not anything to begin building a base on mars, what ever purpose that would serve since it’s basically uninhabitable even of there were rivers of water. A waste of money as far as I’m concerned.
It also doesn’t make sense that frozen water would ‘evaporate’ so fast when it’s what -100c on mars? Now if it were a chunk of frozen co2...
Well that depends on if there really *is* a large anout of water there. Perhaps if there were, converters could be set up, and Mars could be Terraformed over a couple of hundred years...Or more...Ever read ‘Dune’?
Thaks for the link. Good site..bookmarking it now.
I think your math is off.. considerably. A kilo is roughly 1000 lbs, that's 16,000 ounces for $2000. Compared to $2000. per once of platinum. That's .125 cents for an ounce of this gortex material.
How much of a savings that would be depends on how much platinum is used in a car sized fuel cell's electrodes. The savings would be pretty much the total cost of the platinum minus the few cents worth of gortex material.
The problem I suspect they would have using this material is heat would destroy it in a actual fuel cell.
Far as I know, carbon nano tube "cloth" shows a more realistic promise in the world of fuel cell development.
MIT claims 24/7 solar power [more on new electrolysis claim]
EE Times | 7/31/2008 | R. Colin Johnson
Posted on 07/31/2008 5:48:38 PM PDT by sionnsar
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2054612/posts
I was amazed in Grand Forks, ND in 1979 to see how much ice evaporated even though the mercury stayed below zero for a month, and that was with a normal Earth atmospheric pressure.
“A kilo is roughly 1000 lbs”
Oh my brain is hurting! Kilo(gram) is 2.2 lbs.
Yes. But remember, it's science fiction.
What would be the point of terraforming a planet that never gets above -100c? even if something could be made to grow in that temperature? It would STILL be uninhabitable by man for many reasons, temperature, gravity, radiaton.
It's near impossible to live at the north pole on earth for any significant length of time, never mind mars with the barest of supplies and shelter.
Maybe in another 500 years or so we can go for a quick visit when we discover warp engines, Scotty. Or learn to open up worm holes, or space portals, or...
LoL! it’s late.
I was thinking grams not lbs. That’s what happens when you through ounces and Kilo’s in the same sentence, and it’s 2:45 am.
But it’s our atmosphere that keeps our planet from being either a frosty tundra or a barren dust blown crater magnet.
It keeps the temperatures the way they are, and protects the close in surface. Mars is not all that different otherwise.
Perhaps what it needs to develop an atmosphere, is just a long continual nudge, until it begins to sustain an atmosphere all by itself.
Been there...Done that. %o)
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