Posted on 08/01/2008 7:15:03 AM PDT by Turret Gunner A20
Didja year about this one? Some maniac with a huge knife beheaded a man on a Greyhound bus in Canada. If you want a description of what happened, you can click here.
http://www.nationalpost.com/news/global-video/index.html?video=2805319
When the attack occurred the other passengers abandoned ship. Hard to blame them. Who wants to rush this maniac with a knife when everyone can get away? I do have a question though. What if someone – just one person on that bus – had a concealed carry permit and was carrying a gun. How would things have been different?
There's a problem though. This is Canada. No guns. No carry permits. No way to save this victim.
Oh well.
Concealed carry: if it saves just one life.....
From the looks of it, the perp was pretty busy slicing this guy up. There must have been something on that bus that someone could have grabbed and clocked this lunatic with.
Anybody hear the name of the “alleged” cannibal yet?
Witnesses named and interviewed, victim named, but who and where is the “alleged?”
But, but, but... you can’t just let regular people carry guns around all the time.
Someone might get hurt or killed!
I am sure that Greyhound Bus requires all buses to carry a fire extinguisher. That would have taken the guys block off.
Only about 6 or 7 times in the last three days. At least two threads have been deleted.
Nope, and why do you think that is? Maybe it's me, but someone who lop's a head off & holds it up for all to see, sounds like a muzzy.
Again, just me. That, and the fact there's no info about this POS.
This is support of terrorism by Canada (again).
CFRA News Staff
Friday, August 1, 2008
The RCMP have laid charges in the horrific killing of a passenger on board a Greyhound bus in Manitoba.
Foty-year-old Vince Weiguang Li, has been charged with second-degree murder. Li, who is from Edmonton, will appear in a provincial court on Friday.
Friends are identifying the victim of the attack as 22-year-old Tim McLean.
He is described as an easygoing carnival worker from Winnipeg.
Passengers report the man was stabbed 40 to 50 times and then decapitated.
RCMP have revealed very little about the attack, but do say they have no idea what triggered it.
“sounds like a muzzy...”
...to me too....and I expect the name is being withheld for that reason.
Intriguing question, I agree. I am talking from a Dutch perspective, mind. Canadian law enforcers have already termed this horrific crime a ‘one-of-a-kind’ one and assured the population that the punishment will be extremely severe, no matter the state the perpetrator might have been in.
For me it is a grizzly kind of adding-up exercise, or: weighing the pros and ons. Yes, if one passenger would have had a permitted handgun he could probably have saved the victim’s life. On the other hand, there’s no way of denying that the right to bear arms (i.e.: a pistol or revolver) brings its own grave dangers with it, think of the tragedies that happened at U.S. high schools in recent years. They surely are linked to that right to bear arms.
So: I don’t really see a great advantage in widespread carrying of guns, because many people can go off the deep end by one of life’s many possible tragedies, and then go on a killing spree.
But at the same time I know that the American and European perspective on such matters differ hugely. So I’m open to comment and criticism.
the beheadings will continue until morale improves - or until Islam is stopped.
Police identify accused in bus attack
Gabrielle Giroday and Ian Hitchen, Winnipeg Free Press and Brandon Sun
Published: Friday, August 01, 2008
BRANDON, Man. - A 40-year-old man has been charged with second-degree murder in connection with a gruesome stabbing and decapitation aboard a Greyhound bus in Manitoba Wednesday.
RCMP said Friday that Vince Weiguang Li, 40, of Edmonton, has been arrested and charged with second-degree murder and is scheduled to appear in court in Portage la Prairie, Man., Friday at 10 a.m. local time.
Had he cut the person’s head off because he was angry with liberals, more details about the case would be reported.
Reminds me of politics - Sort of like what Obama is trying to do to the oil industry. And all the other industries will be running scared.
The driver, hearing the screams, pulled to the side of the road and opened the doors, allowing passengers to flee. They scrambled over one another and, in their haste, knocked an elderly woman to the floor. One mother, who was seated near the back, threw her toddler forward several rows to get the child away from danger, a witness said.Mr. Caton, who served five years in the Canadian Forces and was closest to the attacker, paused before leaving, torn momentarily between concern for his own safety and the thought of abandoning the bleeding victim. He turned to another man nearby and asked for his help.
“I said, ‘Give me a hand and let's get this guy.' And the other guy took off,” he said.
It was only moments later that the victim's screams went silent. Mr. Caton knew he was too late.
Mr. Caton jumped off the bus, and was met by a trucker who had stopped after seeing the commotion. The trucker grabbed a crowbar and Mr. Caton got a hammer and they tried to contain the attacker on the bus. The attacker swung his knife at them through the partially closed bus door.
Li will be appearing in the Provincial Court of Manitoba in Portage la Prairie today (August 1, 2008) at 1000 hours.
SooNews.ca
**At least two threads have been deleted.** Why????
I wonder what this guy's nationality is?
“The trucker grabbed a crowbar....”
....might have been a Canadian trucker....a lot of American truckers keep stronger medicine than that in the cab.
China has it’s own muslim problem.
Still, it’s good to finally have a name.
Sheep.
It’s sounding more and more like Sudden Jihad Syndrome.
I used to ride greyhound when I was in college. Is there any worse place to go that a bus station? whether it be the port authority in NY, or station outside of St.Louis, why on earth are bus stations in the worst parts of town?
Not isolated. Be careful out there.
The mod who whacked them didn't confide in me.
I suspect the last one whacked yesterday was because there were already three running threads.
Yeah, I was thinking about Al Zarqawi too. By the way: I don’t think I will fall asleep in public transport in the upcoming 6 months or so...
Perhaps the killer was an envious insomniac?
Nice try troll, but it won't fly. All school shootings are done in no gun zones, they are also(except for the college shooting)done by teens who stoled the weapons they used. If we truly had the right to keep and bear arms the school shootings wouldn't have happened as one of the teachers would have been armed and would have taken the shooters out before they did too much damage.
When I was in school we used to bring our deer rifles to school and go hunting after class, no one ever got shot any where on any schools in the US at that time. Your statement is just a fine example of liberal thinking and, as I said, it won't fly.
Amazing! Canadian pacifists rushing out of the bus while there the overhead racks contained countless primitive weapons to subdue this one sicko. Shame on you sorryass pacivism, Canada.
Sounds like they might find some PCP in his system.
When I traveled I always had a knife or mace on me. I never trusted the people I was sitting next to, and made sure that I didn’t sleep on the bus.
Probably PC Anti-Truth Squad didn’t like the fact that the attacker is Asian. It’s considered racist to mention it, you know.
Thank you!
“Easygoing carnival worker.” Meaning a clown, of course.
Evil clown alert.
Usually, someone taking action is what prompts others, not asking them to help you.
They are linked to the fact that the perpetrators "bore arms", whether they should have or not. Criminals will get guns whether they are illegal or not, so their crimes aren't really related to that right.
It's the law-abiding who are affected by laws. They are the ones who are disarmed by anti-gun laws. It's because of those laws that there are more victims for the criminals to attack and kill without fear of an effective defense.
Had there been more armed citizens, each of those school shooting tragedies could have ended much more quickly, with fewer victims.
Imagine if some of the teachers in those schools were qualified and allowed to carry a concealed weapon. Can you see how the outcome could have been so much better? When only the police have effective defense against a gunman, then he knows he has lots of time to claim numerous lives before anyone will be able to stop him.
So: I don’t really see a great advantage in widespread carrying of guns, because many people can go off the deep end by one of life’s many possible tragedies, and then go on a killing spree.
Exactly. That's precisely why there is an advantage to more widespread carrying of guns!
The bad guys will get their weapons in spite of the law, and more guns in the hands of the good guys mean it's more likely the bad guys will be stopped more quickly, or that they won't even attempt their crimes because of the higher likelihood of being shot in the process.
In the USA, at least, the areas with the strongest anti-gun laws are mostly the ones with the highest gun-related crime. Those laws don't stop the criminals.
Thanks Chris for an outstanding reply. You took the trouble to go through my post detail by detail and took it seriously as a whole.
I made a couple of mistakes, the kind of mistakes that can be the result of being ill-informed.
So again: cheers!
A13.
perp is 40-year-old Vince Weiguang Li, of Edmonton, Alberta
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,395781,00.html
“...to me too....and I expect the name is being withheld for that reason.”
His name has been released. It was withheld simply because he hadn’t been charged yet.
“Dairy Cattle,” actually. Just as bad, though.
It’s a possibility. Equally possible is that the lunatic stands up and shoots five others, too.
Just sayin’.
Sometimes a brief delay is just a brief delay, to paraphrase Freud.
“Shame on you sorryass pacivism, Canada.”
YEP....and from the article:
“Olmstead said the man later use the head to taunt police”
the cops should have shot this guy on the spot...then all sworn that he came at them with the knife....there’s no sense in having an expensive trial for guys like that.
The vast majority of those who carry a concealed weapon are law abiding citizens who are not going to go on a rampage just because they are armed. Does the widespread driving of cars make people go on killing sprees with their cars? I carry concealed to protect myself and my loved ones.
Funny, I have had similar urges while watching Zorro! Guess it is the sword thing.
All deals with movie selection.
Wouldn’t have happened if Nemo was on :-)
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