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Associated Press: Canada Bus Passenger Stabs, Decapitates Seat Mate
Google News ^ | August 1, 2008 | Associated Press

Posted on 08/01/2008 7:46:38 AM PDT by Arec Barrwin

Canada bus passenger stabs, decapitates seat mate

14 hours ago

PORTAGE LA PRAIRIE, Manitoba (AP) — A traveler aboard a Greyhound bus repeatedly stabbed and then decapitated his seat mate, pausing during the savage attack in central Canada to display the head to passengers who had fled in horror, witnesses and officials said Thursday.

(Excerpt) Read more at ap.google.com ...


TOPICS: Canada; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: beheading; bus; canada; decapitation; doasearchfirst; jihadnextdoor; vinceweiguangli
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This is disturbing
1 posted on 08/01/2008 7:46:39 AM PDT by Arec Barrwin
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To: Arec Barrwin

The question the liberals always ask: “What made him do this?”


2 posted on 08/01/2008 7:48:03 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Brilliant

we should also ask this question
what the heck


3 posted on 08/01/2008 7:50:21 AM PDT by ari-freedom (Obamuh uh uh uh uh uh uh ummmmmm)
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To: Arec Barrwin

When no information is released on the perpetrator or victim, one can only wonder if this is another attack by a practitioner of the Religion of Peace. The method of execution doesn’t sound like anything a traditional Canadian would do.


4 posted on 08/01/2008 7:50:29 AM PDT by Sioux-san
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To: Sioux-san

The attacker had a Chinese name. The victim was a Native American.


5 posted on 08/01/2008 7:51:15 AM PDT by lady lawyer
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To: Arec Barrwin
Breaking News.... NOT!

Hello! McFly? This has been posted on FR about 100 times already.

6 posted on 08/01/2008 7:51:42 AM PDT by the_devils_advocate_666
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To: Arec Barrwin

Pre-board security screening needed.


7 posted on 08/01/2008 7:52:40 AM PDT by Ben Reyes
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To: lady lawyer
The attacker had a Chinese name.

Uighur or Han?

8 posted on 08/01/2008 7:54:09 AM PDT by Clint Williams (Read Roto-Reuters -- we're the spinmeisters | Impeach Obama!)
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To: Arec Barrwin
No mention of the nationality, citizenship, ethnicity or religion of the attacker.

Could he have been a......nah, don't jump to conclusions Hardstarboard

9 posted on 08/01/2008 7:54:20 AM PDT by HardStarboard (Take No Prisoners - We're Out O)
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To: Admin Moderator

Don’t we have a ban of some kind on AP articles?


10 posted on 08/01/2008 7:54:54 AM PDT by Clint Williams (Read Roto-Reuters -- we're the spinmeisters | Impeach Obama!)
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To: Arec Barrwin; ari-freedom

What’s really disturbing is that with a whole busload of people, nobody stopped the attack. They all ran off the bus. While it sounds unlikely that they could have saved the victim, they should have been able to stop it before the decapitation. And the perp should have been dead before police got there.


11 posted on 08/01/2008 7:59:44 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Clint Williams

“Uighur or Han?”

Huh? You tell me. From a Canadian news site:

Making news this morning: More details on the Greyhound bus murder are circulating. A number of groups on the social networking Web site Facebook are paying tribute to 22-year-old Tim McLean as the victim of a horrific stabbing and decapitation. On his Myspace profile, McLean, who called himself “Jokawild,” described himself as someone who was into having a good time and “getting the most out of life.” RCMP said Friday that Vince Weiguang Li, 40, of Edmonton, has been arrested and charged with second-degree murder and is scheduled to appear in court in Portage la Prairie, Man., Friday at 10 a.m. local time.


12 posted on 08/01/2008 8:00:42 AM PDT by lady lawyer
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To: GovernmentShrinker

There was a young, buff ex-military guy sitting right in front of the attacker and the victim. He ran.


13 posted on 08/01/2008 8:01:29 AM PDT by lady lawyer
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To: lady lawyer
The attacker had a Chinese name. The victim was a Native American.

You must have a source that I have yet to find.

What is your source of that info?

14 posted on 08/01/2008 8:02:18 AM PDT by capt. norm (Never underestimate the power of very stupid people in large groups.)
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To: Arec Barrwin

I rode a Greyhound for 700 mi about 7 years back. Scariest 2 days ever.


15 posted on 08/01/2008 8:03:20 AM PDT by traderrob6
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To: capt. norm

I have yet to see a name on this perp. The Canucks sure are plaing this PC, which makes you wonder if the perp is muslim.


16 posted on 08/01/2008 8:04:33 AM PDT by rbmillerjr ("bigger government means constricting freedom"....................RWR)
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To: capt. norm

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2054862/posts?page=10#10


17 posted on 08/01/2008 8:04:40 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Only a Kennedy between us and tyranny.)
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To: capt. norm

See post 12. I read another story which referred to the victim as a “young aboriginal man.”


18 posted on 08/01/2008 8:05:47 AM PDT by lady lawyer
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To: Arec Barrwin

Do you see what happens when we let everyone have knives? Why, oh, why can’t we have a national knife registry and ensure that every knife that the gubmint allows us to own is locked safely in a restaurant kitchen or butcher shop?


19 posted on 08/01/2008 8:11:32 AM PDT by bradthebuilder (War is peace; Ignorance is strength; Freedom is slavery)
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To: Clint Williams

So, please tell me. Is “Weiguang Li” Uighur or Han? And what, pray tell, is the difference?


20 posted on 08/01/2008 8:13:36 AM PDT by lady lawyer
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To: bradthebuilder

Not good enough — the blade must be kept separate and removed from the shaft.


21 posted on 08/01/2008 8:15:31 AM PDT by expatpat
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To: Arec Barrwin

This is an AP story - prepare for the Mod Admin to delete it.


22 posted on 08/01/2008 8:16:48 AM PDT by Brian S. Fitzgerald
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To: rbmillerjr

Name of the perp was released couple of hours ago. Li, the most common surname in the world.


23 posted on 08/01/2008 8:18:01 AM PDT by gracesdad
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To: Clint Williams
yep, the Admin must still be asleep :^)

there was a strict policy last week, two AP stories I excerpted got canned.

24 posted on 08/01/2008 8:18:13 AM PDT by Brian S. Fitzgerald
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To: lady lawyer

Han are the majority Chinese group. Uighur are the Chinese Muslims.


25 posted on 08/01/2008 8:18:53 AM PDT by twigs
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To: lady lawyer
"young aboriginal man.”

Mongolian?

26 posted on 08/01/2008 8:19:07 AM PDT by Brian S. Fitzgerald
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To: the_devils_advocate_666

That’s right, but there were more details in this article, so I didn’t think it was entirely duplicative.


27 posted on 08/01/2008 8:19:31 AM PDT by Arec Barrwin
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To: Arec Barrwin

"July 30: An RCMP officer negotiates with a suspect in a Greyhound
bus near in Manitoba after a man was stabbed and beheaded by a fellow passenger."

28 posted on 08/01/2008 8:19:42 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: Arec Barrwin
IBTL!

in before thread lock!!!

29 posted on 08/01/2008 8:20:27 AM PDT by thefactor (contributing nothing of value to threads since 2001...)
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To: Brian S. Fitzgerald
"Uighur are the Chinese Muslims"

uh oh - appetite for violence and hungry again an hour later!

30 posted on 08/01/2008 8:20:39 AM PDT by Brian S. Fitzgerald
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To: lady lawyer

Li is the most common surname in the world and the Han make up 92 percent of China’s population. So Li is almost certainly Han.


31 posted on 08/01/2008 8:21:03 AM PDT by gracesdad
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To: Clint Williams

Not anymore.


32 posted on 08/01/2008 8:21:31 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: Arec Barrwin

He must have really ticked him off.


33 posted on 08/01/2008 8:21:33 AM PDT by Nonstatist
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To: Brian S. Fitzgerald

“Aboriginal” is Canuck-speak for Native American, or American Indian, or First Nations, or whatever ethnic label you prefer.


34 posted on 08/01/2008 8:22:21 AM PDT by lady lawyer
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To: Brian S. Fitzgerald

The victim is aboriginal, not the perp.


35 posted on 08/01/2008 8:23:13 AM PDT by gracesdad
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To: Arec Barrwin

Tim McLean, 22, was a victim of a stabbing in a Greyhound bus.

36 posted on 08/01/2008 8:24:22 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: lady lawyer

You’d think ‘Aboriginal’ would be considered perjorative by some of that group. It implies backwardness in some sense.


37 posted on 08/01/2008 8:25:20 AM PDT by Brian S. Fitzgerald
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To: lady lawyer

Uighurs are (predominantly) Muslim. The name sounds Han.


38 posted on 08/01/2008 8:26:39 AM PDT by Clint Williams (Read Roto-Reuters -- we're the spinmeisters | Impeach Obama!)
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To: Admin Moderator

Thanks.


39 posted on 08/01/2008 8:26:54 AM PDT by Clint Williams (Read Roto-Reuters -- we're the spinmeisters | Impeach Obama!)
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To: Sioux-san

That would be the way that I would bet.


40 posted on 08/01/2008 8:28:21 AM PDT by chesley ( Ya can't make chick'n dumplin's outta chick'n feathers!!)
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To: Arec Barrwin

How many more people have to die before we ban all knives in this country?

Knife-control now!


41 posted on 08/01/2008 8:36:55 AM PDT by Scourge of God (McCain? Mickey Mouse? Decisions, decisions.)
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To: traderrob6

Think that is bad take a cab in San Franfreako.


42 posted on 08/01/2008 8:39:55 AM PDT by Vaduz (and just think how clean the cities would become again.)
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To: lady lawyer

WeiGuangLi would be a Han name, but it doesn’t really tell all.

Uighurs mostly live in the Xinjiang Autonomous region in the far west bordering Kazakhstan . . . . Muslim backgrounds. There is a Muslim separatist movement there that the Chinese have to continuously keep in check.


43 posted on 08/01/2008 8:54:08 AM PDT by John Leland 1789
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To: lady lawyer

“The attacker had a Chinese name. The victim was a Native American.”

So this makes it a racial incident?

I recall a black man once saying, “When two blacks get in a fight, it’s called a fight. When a black man and a white man get in a fight, it’s called a racial incident.”


44 posted on 08/01/2008 8:56:02 AM PDT by popdonnelly (Boycott Washington D.C. until they allow gun ownership)
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To: lady lawyer

Actually that guy did try enlist another person to help, but that person and everybody else ran, so buff ex-military guy followed. He did get back on the bus briefly later to see of he could help (quickly saw it was way too late) and was apparently involved in helping keep the attacker in the bus after the attack was over and before police arrived.

All it would have taken was 2-3 people to run headlong into the guy and lie/sit on top of him until they or someone else could get the knife out his hand or definitively disable him.


45 posted on 08/01/2008 9:08:45 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Admin Moderator

When did that happen and why? Did AP formally back down on its threats?


46 posted on 08/01/2008 9:09:37 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: lady lawyer

The young man in Utah that massacred people at the mall a few years ago was from Bosnia - who’d of thunk he was a Muslim, too, doing Allah’s bidding. So, we shall see.


47 posted on 08/01/2008 9:23:10 AM PDT by Sioux-san
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To: Admin Moderator
Has the ban on AP been lifted?

Why?

48 posted on 08/01/2008 9:46:08 AM PDT by the anti-liberal
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To: Arec Barrwin
pausing during the savage attack in central Canada to display the head to passengers who had fled in horror

It seems that by the time he had the head free to display, the attack was pretty much OVER. So I'm not sure "paused" is the correct term here. I guess he could have stabbed the guy some more after holding up the head, but I don't think it really would have mattered.

49 posted on 08/01/2008 10:00:02 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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All it would have taken was 2-3 people to run headlong into the guy and lie/sit on top of him until they or someone else could get the knife out his hand or definitively disable him.

And while the first guy would probably get stabbed and maybe killed, the others behind him would likely survive.

So, if you want to be first, I'll follow right behind you.

By the time you figure out what is happening, that passenger may have been stabbed multiple times. You have to weigh the chance of saving them with the likelyhood you are going to get killed trying.

The main reason for intervening at that time would be to prevent anybody else from getting hurt. If everybody else is getting off the bus, and nobody is left to be killed, you would be risking your life to stop him after he probably already killed the guy.

So I don't fault anybody for fleeing. If he was trying to stab the bus driver, then I would have intervened, or if it was on an AIRPLANE where he might try to take over the plane.

BTW, an ex-military guy still might be no match against another man who has martial arts training and a knife.

50 posted on 08/01/2008 10:06:08 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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