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Incredible Discoveries Made in Remote Caves
LiveScience ^ | 31 July 2008 | Robert Roy Britt, LiveScience Managing Editor

Posted on 08/02/2008 2:58:56 AM PDT by Fred Nerks

Scientists exploring caves in the bone-dry and mostly barren Atacama Desert in Chile stumbled upon a totally unexpected discovery this week: water.

They also found hundreds of thousands of animal bones in a cave, possibly evidence of some prehistoric human activity.

The findings are preliminary and have not been analyzed.

The expedition is designed to learn how to spot caves on Mars by studying the thermal signatures of caves and non-cave features in hot, dry places here on Earth. Scientists think Martian caves, some of which may already have been spotted from space, could be good places to look for life.

No hot place on Earth is drier than the Atacama Desert. Many parts of the high-plateau desert have never received rain that anyone can remember. Average rainfall across the region is just 1 millimeter per year. (Parts of Antarctica are considered the driest places on Earth, however.)

So nobody was looking for water.

Total surprise

The research team was exploring Cueva Chulacao, the largest known cave in the Cordillera de la Sal. Naturally curious, they took note of things they saw while conducting their primary research. Other than a single black hair that was likely from an indigenous person, this cave was pristine, virgin territory, explained J. Judson Wynne, a cave expert with the SETI Institute and Northern Arizona University.

"There were no footprints where we were going, and I only saw the slightest evidence of human use," Wynne told LiveScience by email Monday night as the day's work was sinking in.

Wynne and his colleagues moved carefully through the cave to place a sensor along the wall, part of their NASA-funded research.

"Much to my surprise, as we moved about halfway through this passage, my foot completely sunk into the soil," Wynne said. "It was mud! ...

(Excerpt) Read more at livescience.com ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: atacamadesert; bones; caves; chile; cuevachulacao; discovery; geology; godsgravesglyphs; nasa; southamerica; water
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Image of ungulate bones observed in the walls of Cuevita de Huesos. The team found "hundreds of thousands of bones and skulls eroding out of the cave walls." Credit: J. Wynne et al. Advertisement

1 posted on 08/02/2008 3:03:01 AM PDT by Fred Nerks
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2 posted on 08/02/2008 3:15:50 AM PDT by Leisler
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To: Fred Nerks
ungulate bones

Not very specific is it? Are we talking horses, pigs, cattle, goats, deer, camels, or what?

3 posted on 08/02/2008 3:21:02 AM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (Obama "King of Kings and Lord of Lords")
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
The findings are preliminary and have not been analyzed.
4 posted on 08/02/2008 3:26:29 AM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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I suspect that cave detection technology would be useful in other places right here on earth... like the western territories of Pakistan for example.


5 posted on 08/02/2008 3:31:38 AM PDT by Ron/GA
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

All of them. Which leads us again to #2.


6 posted on 08/02/2008 3:37:39 AM PDT by SolidWood (Obamarxislamism, the threat to our Republic!)
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To: SunkenCiv; neverdem; blam

Good stuff.


7 posted on 08/02/2008 3:38:22 AM PDT by djf (Locusts? Locusts??! What a podunk plague! Let me tell you about the Bernankes...)
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To: djf

On site report images:

The Adventures of J. Judson Wynne

http://jjudsonwynne.blogspot.com/


8 posted on 08/02/2008 3:54:20 AM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

ungulate bones/ Dino found.


9 posted on 08/02/2008 3:55:32 AM PDT by Vaduz (and just think how clean the cities would become again.)
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To: Fred Nerks

Shueee! Don’t tell Al Gore. He might want to add this to his slide show:

What Causes Deserts?

Atacama Desert in Chile

One reason is that the high atmospheric pressure in this region over the Andes can cause dry, cold air from the upper altitudes to compress and come down to earth. This dry air has almost no water vapor so it can be easily heated by the sun, causing high ground temperatures with very low humidity.


10 posted on 08/02/2008 4:35:28 AM PDT by CHEE (Stink, Steam and All)
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To: Vaduz

Drill Atacama. Drill now.


11 posted on 08/02/2008 4:44:19 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (If Hillary is elected, her legacy will be telling the American people: Better put some ice on that.)
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To: Leisler

It’s algore!

LLS


12 posted on 08/02/2008 5:00:43 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (REAGANISM... NOT communism!!!)
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"We found hundreds of thousands of bones and skulls eroding out of the cave walls," Wynne wrote in his blog. "So, we’ve renamed this small cave Cuevita de Huesos (or Small Cave of the Bones)."

The researchers had to climb about 13 feet up to find a walkable passage.

"This is where we found all the bones mixed in with tree branches," Wynne wrote.

It's not clear if the animals were dumped into the cave by prehistoric people or if perhaps they were trapped by a flood.

Trapped by a flood or, mixed in with tree branches, the consolidated flotsam of a flood?
13 posted on 08/02/2008 5:39:29 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: Ron/GA
"I suspect that cave detection technology would be useful in other places right here on earth... like the western territories of Pakistan for example."

An EXCELLENT IDEA!!! Maybe you should forward the info to the CIA.

14 posted on 08/02/2008 6:33:47 AM PDT by LZ_Bayonet (There's Always Something.............And there's always something worse!)
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15 posted on 08/02/2008 6:58:21 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_________________________Profile updated Friday, May 30, 2008)
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i don’t understand what’s so “incredible” about finding water in caves.

dry caves, in deserts often have water.

in fact, i’m not a geologist, but having hiked a lot in socal and arizona

i notice water seeping out of cracks of rocks even on the outside of mountains.

very slow. who knows how long it takes water to move under the pressure from the weight of rocks.


16 posted on 08/02/2008 7:09:28 AM PDT by ken21 (people die and you never hear from them again.)
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......who knows how long it takes water to move under the pressure from the weight of rocks.....

If you believe Tony Hillerman, and I do, the Hopi know. They mark the seeps as shrines and monitor them.

In one of his novels involving an air plane crash near Second Mesa, on land disputed by Hopi and Navajo, Jim Chee investigated the sabotage of a new wind mill. The sabotage was by a Hopi who observed the decrease in seepage from an ancient nearby seep.


17 posted on 08/02/2008 7:40:55 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Conservation? Let the NE Yankees freeze.... in the dark)
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To: Fred Nerks
It's not clear if the animals were dumped into the cave by prehistoric people or if perhaps they were trapped by a flood. After all, the expedition is related to figuring out the thermal signatures of Mars caves, and the finding was made just this week.

Maybe they used the cave for drinking water, lived out their lives near the cave, and died there.

18 posted on 08/02/2008 9:17:47 AM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: bert

interesting.


19 posted on 08/02/2008 9:50:24 AM PDT by ken21 (people die and you never hear from them again.)
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To: aruanan; SunkenCiv

If these bones were somehow flushed into the cave by water, wouldn’t this mean we’ve found the sewage terminus for South America comparable to New Jersey in North America?


20 posted on 08/02/2008 10:04:26 AM PDT by wildbill ( FR---changing history by erasing it from memory.)
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