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Shooting raises question: It is safe to be a liberal
knoxnews.com ^ | August 2, 2008 | Jack Lail

Posted on 08/02/2008 9:47:48 AM PDT by don-o

National, and even international, coverage of the shootings at the Tennessee Valley Unitarian Church turned late this week into a discussion into whether it's safe in America to be a liberal.

(Excerpt) Read more at knoxnews.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Tennessee
KEYWORDS: banglist; bradywatch; churchshooting; govwatch; guncontrol; knoxville; liberalism; obama; religiousleft; shooting; unitarian
It's a cut & paste article of reporting on the Knoxville UU shooting.
1 posted on 08/02/2008 9:47:48 AM PDT by don-o
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To: don-o

A simple look at the crime rates of cities run by liberals will answer that question.


2 posted on 08/02/2008 9:50:20 AM PDT by Seruzawa (American Government: Providing Middle Class Incomes to Unemployables for Over 200 Years!)
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To: don-o

i don’t know about the safety of liberals, but, in these times, it’s definitely more courageous to be a conservative.


3 posted on 08/02/2008 10:00:53 AM PDT by robomatik ((wine plug: renascentvineyards.com cabernet sauvignon, riesling, and merlot))
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To: don-o
Ian Williams, writing in The Guardian in London, said "Jim Adkisson, a Tennessee aficionado of conservative talkshows, took their hosts' invective all too literally and shot up a 'liberal' Unitarian Universalist congregation, killing two and wounding six congregants watching a children's musical. Caught up in a world of conservative talk radio, he reportedly expected to be able to carry on shooting unimpeded by the spineless, gay-loving pacifists, and was surprised when they tackled him and brought him down."

Excuse me but if I recall it was a flaming liberal that shot up a baptist church in Colorado ten years ago. I can't believe this. Since when have any talk radio show hosts ever said to go shoot liberals? I can't think of any!

Someone needs to post the BS meter quick.

4 posted on 08/02/2008 10:04:08 AM PDT by mainestategop (MAINE: Come in and get taxed)
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To: don-o
Of course it is unsafe to be a liberal in this country.
They should all leave now while they still can!
5 posted on 08/02/2008 10:06:41 AM PDT by SouthTexas (Invert the 5-4 and you have no rights.)
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To: mainestategop
Someone needs to post the BS meter quick.

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6 posted on 08/02/2008 10:09:48 AM PDT by Donald Rumsfeld Fan
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To: don-o

No, it is not safe to be a liberal.

Being a liberal has many deleterious factors, such as the tendency to believe anything anyone says, or the tendency to vote for Democrats who are bent on destroying your nation.

Being liberal causes your logic circuits to atrophy while your emotional circuits go on overload to handle the impulses. It causes you to believe in the mythology of global warming, abortion, disarmament. It causes you to believe homosexual marriage is good for society, that homeless people are virtuous and decent, that guns are automatically bad, and that wars are always wrong.

Being liberal causes grown men to wear pink, or dress like women while it causes grown women to dress like men or bag women. In others it causes ungraceful ageing and an unhealthy addiction to botox and body lift procedures.

Being liberal causes uncontrollable rage whenever you see President Bush and thereby shortens your life. Being liberal causes an otherwise healthy, privileged person to cry about being a victim of racism, sexism, ageism, heightism, genderism, whatever.

Being liberal means you forfeit all responsibility for your life and conditions around you and cause you to cry to the government for succor. It means feeling helpless and trapped in your circumstances while at the same time making you blame everyone who doesn’t agree with you for being in total control of their evil lives.

Being a liberal means you stay a child forever, like Peter Pan, but without the ability to fly or defeat your enemies.

So, no, it is not safe to be a liberal.


7 posted on 08/02/2008 10:10:00 AM PDT by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things)
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To: mainestategop

And didn’t Randi Rhodes the *liberal* talk show host play the sound of gun shots along with the suggestion that Bush should be gunned down (of course this was “humor” but still)?

And how about that Bill Ayers? When he bombed the Pentagon, do you think he was hoping to get liberals or conservatives?


8 posted on 08/02/2008 10:11:07 AM PDT by Yardstick
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To: don-o

“By concentrating on what is good in people, by appealing to their idealism and their sense of justice, and by asking them to put their faith in the future, socialists put themselves at a severe disadvantage.” — Ian McEwan


9 posted on 08/02/2008 10:14:05 AM PDT by LurkedLongEnough (Music washes away the dust of every day life. ---Art Blakey)
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To: don-o

Libs understand violence.

Every policy they try to make us comply to is backed by the inherent threat of the use of deadly violence by a government agent. Fascist bastards.


10 posted on 08/02/2008 10:15:13 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: don-o

If it comes to a shooting civil war: Us - 286 million guns and 10 billion rounds of ammunition, Liberals - harsh editorials in the NY Times. I pick our side!


11 posted on 08/02/2008 10:15:50 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: pabianice

There is a simple answer to this question; Blacks are the single largest group of violent crime victims. They are also predominantly liberal.


12 posted on 08/02/2008 10:19:23 AM PDT by umgud
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To: don-o

Sounds like another sad, sick, confused loser who had issues with God, Christianity, his parents, and ex-wives. He was 58 years old. He should have been able to get over it, but appears to have major “issues.”

By the way, UU’s are not Christians. They deny anything Divine about Jesus, the Christ.


Neighbors: Accused shooter everyone’s friend, questioned Christianity
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2052316/posts

The man accused of a mass church shooting this morning was described by his Powell neighbors as a helpful and kind man, but one who had issues with Christianity.

Jim D. Adkisson, 58, has been charged with first-degree murder in the shooting at the Tennessee Valley Unitarian Universalist Church, which killed one and injured eight others.

He is being held on $1 million bond.

More details as they develop online and in Monday’s News Sentinel.

“He had his own sense of belief about religion, that’s the impression I got of him,” said neighbor Karen Massey. “We were talking one day when my daughter graduated from Bible college, and I told him I was a Christian, then he almost turned angry.

“He seemed to get angry at that.”

According to Massey, Adkisson talked frequently about his parents who “made him go to church all his life ... he was forced to do that.”


Media Blackout 5th Ex-wife of church shooting suspect is former member of Knoxville UU Church
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2053506/posts


13 posted on 08/02/2008 10:21:55 AM PDT by Perseverando
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To: pabianice
If it comes to a shooting civil war: Us - 286 million guns and 10 billion rounds of ammunition, Liberals - harsh editorials in the NY Times. I pick our side!

I would like to believe you are right, but I worry its not that cut and dried. If you think about the forces of anarchy in this country, such as MS-13 and the many local racially oriented gangs, you will see that they are armed, organized, and motivated -- if only for their own aims. They may not be "political" in the normal sense, but they are opportunistic and if they voted, it would be liberal.

There are a ton of conservative armed guys, but they are for the most part cooperative with society, and unorganized. Organization is very important.

Think about C3-- command, communications, control. Does the average free-thinking person, armed or not, have it? Not yet.

The unfortunate reality is, that when the government doesn't act the way it is supposed to, people turn to the family, the clan, the secret society, or the gang. Our government is most easily able to find and suppress the organization of those above ground.

Most conservatives are still hoping for the best. I hope we never have to go through the chaos and disorder you are hinting at, because small arms without organization would not be enough.

14 posted on 08/02/2008 10:25:53 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine (Is /sarc really necessary?)
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To: don-o
Not really a new idea. Conservatives have been blamed for various acts of violence for years. Liberals believe they are special and anything that happens to them must be viewed as universally catastrophic. And inspired by demonic forces. Of course, the devils du jour that liberals acknowledge are conservatives.
15 posted on 08/02/2008 10:28:37 AM PDT by isrul (Help make every day, "Disrespect a muzzie day.")
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To: don-o
It is safe to be a liberal?

Whom do you think are more likely to get jumped?

16 posted on 08/02/2008 10:29:11 AM PDT by Zakeet (Be thankful we don't get all the government we pay for)
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To: LurkedLongEnough
Translation: manipulate people through phony accusations of guilt.
17 posted on 08/02/2008 10:33:58 AM PDT by isrul (Help make every day, "Disrespect a muzzie day.")
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To: mainestategop

I seem to remember leftist commentators say on several occasions that they wished some conservative figure dead. I don’t recall right-wing “hate radio” hosts expressing similar sentiments about leftists.


18 posted on 08/02/2008 10:37:14 AM PDT by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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To: don-o

When dialog breaks down, violence breaks out.

The Left has been doing everything they can to shut down ‘dialog’ (i.e., contrary views from the Right) for over 4 decades now.

It’s a wonder full revolution hasn’t broken out already.


19 posted on 08/02/2008 10:44:11 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (If Hillary is elected, her legacy will be telling the American people: Better put some ice on that.)
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To: don-o

“shooting raises question: is it safe to be liberal?”

e.l.f. incidents, unabomber incidents, liberal democrat antics in congress raise question: is it safe to earn a living and attempt to thrive in america?


20 posted on 08/02/2008 11:14:28 AM PDT by ripley
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To: don-o

One maniac goes berserk and all conservatives are painted as fanatics.


21 posted on 08/02/2008 11:55:37 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (liberalism = serious mental deficiency)
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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged
But, of course. Don't you understand anything?

Our overlords need to make it real simple for us bitter, clinging proles.

22 posted on 08/02/2008 11:57:56 AM PDT by don-o (Have you donated to FR? If not, why not?)
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To: Pearls Before Swine
"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." - Claire Wolfe, 101 Things to Do 'Til the Revolution

Libertarian Wolfe made her famous observation above in the mid-nineties. Now here we are more than ten years later, even more isolated and politically disenfranchised, and we must ask the question: how far do we have to go to get past "awkward?"

23 posted on 08/02/2008 12:05:38 PM PDT by An Old Man ("The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they suppress." Douglas)
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To: SouthTexas

Canada awaits them anxiously.


24 posted on 08/02/2008 12:24:32 PM PDT by muawiyah (We need a "Gastank For America" to win back Congress)
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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged

Why liberals love crime and criminals love liberals:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2055492/posts


25 posted on 08/02/2008 2:14:08 PM PDT by Perseverando
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To: don-o
A more accurate headline would say: Are You More Likely to Be Murdered By Some Wacked-Out Crazy Person With a Gun If You Are a Liberal?" I think not.
Is it safer to be a liberal or a conservative? I think it is not as safe to be a liberal, because the liberal is more likely to depend upon the police, gun free zones, and other stupid laws to keep them safe, rather than having some self-reliance.

For your consideration, I offer the following examples of some liberal/left wing hate:
Alfred A. Knopf published Nicholson Baker's "Checkpoint," a novel in which two Bush-haters talk about assassinating the president. "I'm going to kill that bastard," one character rages.
Newsday columnist Hugh Pearson likened the Republican National Convention to the "Nazi rallies held in Germany during the reign of Adolf Hitler."
Al Gore refers to GOP activists as "brown shirts."
Totenberg Wants Helms to Catch AIDS
Julianne Malveaux wants Justice Clarence Thomas to die of heart disease.
Los Angeles Times "frequent contributor" Karen Grigsby Bates, who said of Sen. Trent Lott: "Whenever I hear Trent Lott speak, I immediately think of nooses decorating trees. Big trees, with black bodies swinging from the business ends of nooses."
Linda Ronstadt said that the Republican victory on Election Day meant "we've got a new bunch of Hitlers."
Cameron Diaz declared that rape might be legalized if women didn't turn out to vote for John Kerry.
A cartoon by the widely syndicated Ted Rall described Pat Tillman, who gave up his NFL career to enlist in the Army and was then killed in Afghanistan, as a "sap" and an "idiot."
A political flier in Tennessee, depicting Bush as a mentally disabled sprinter, bore the message: "Voting for Bush is like running in the Special Olympics. Even if you win, you're still retarded."
The St. Petersburg, Fla., Democratic Club took out an ad calling for the death of Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld.
Comedian and (former) talk show host Craig Kilborn [Caption under footage of George W. Bush]: Snipers Wanted
Actor Alec Baldwin wants Henry Hyde to be stoned to death.
Democrat Representative Pete Stark, speaking to a Republican: "You think you are big enough to make me, you little wimp? Come on. Come over here and make me, I dare you. You little fruitcake."
Duncan “Atrios” Black discussing ABC’s The Note: "A bunch of mindless jerks who will be first up against the wall when the revolution comes."
Huffington Post blogger Tony Hendra wishes for Dick Cheney to die.
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid slurs Clarence Thomas, suggesting his opinions are written in Ebonics and that he may be the janitor.
Chris Rock sez "If President Clinton would pardon me I would whip [Ken] Starr’s ass right now."
Syndicated columnist Alexander Cockburn: "There is a sound case to be made for dropping a tactical nuclear weapon on the Cuban section of Miami. The move would be applauded heartily by most Americans. Alas, Operation Good Riddance would require the sort of mature political courage sadly lacking in Washington, D.C., these days.
Democrat Senator Robert Byrd: "There are white niggers. I’ve seen a lot of white niggers in my time. I’m going to use that word."
Jesse Jackson on Jews: "Hymies" & on New York City: "Hymietown"
Barney Frank accusing President Bush of "ethnic cleansing" in New Orleans.
Numerous comments on Daily Kos about the death of Tony Snow are too vile to repeat. If you want to read them, look here How some in the reality-based community of compassion and caring honor the death of Tony Snow

26 posted on 08/02/2008 2:43:11 PM PDT by smokingfrog
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To: don-o
"It would be a fitting tribute to those who were lost in Knoxville if this tragedy gave the authors of the ongoing morality play cause for pause -- and reflection. Or is accountability yet another lost conservative value?"

When Al Gore is held accountable for the Unabomber (who had a copy of Earth in the Balance in his cabin), I'll read sentences like this without laughing.

27 posted on 08/02/2008 2:54:44 PM PDT by denydenydeny ("[Obama acts] as if the very idea of permanent truth is passe, a form of bad taste"-Shelby Steele)
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To: Pearls Before Swine
I hope we never have to go through the chaos and disorder you are hinting at, because small arms without organization would not be enough.

BTT

Most good Americans are still uncomfortable with the idea of planning for revolt. And the left has done a good job of demonizing armed citizens so even gun owners are suspicious of each other. Never know who the fed agitator is...

28 posted on 08/02/2008 4:46:38 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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