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Where are My Facebook and Myspace Friends? Missing Because of Abortion
Life News ^ | 8/1/08 | Maria Vitale

Posted on 08/02/2008 12:56:26 PM PDT by wagglebee

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To: wagglebee
Since the greater proportion of abortions (in my opinion) can be attributed to liberals and the great unwashed let's not forget to honor the missing criminals in our world.

What does that have to do with accusing me of eugenics? I would think that the moralists would be pleased at the prospect of eliminating rapists, murderers, etc.

I never said that aborting them justified it. I am pointing out the absurdity of the author's premise that all those aborted would have been her "friends".

41 posted on 08/02/2008 2:33:31 PM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
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To: raybbr
Huh? It means we'll see how many others think it's silly.

And you're spending an awful lot of time denouncing something you find silly and basically meaningless. To me, that's the height of silly.
42 posted on 08/02/2008 2:35:19 PM PDT by Antoninus (Every second spent bashing McCain is time that could be spent helping Conservatives downticket.)
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To: wagglebee

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43 posted on 08/02/2008 2:35:41 PM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: raybbr
Since the greater proportion of abortions (in my opinion) can be attributed to liberals and the great unwashed let's not forget to honor the missing criminals in our world.

And there you have it. It only took about 10 posts for you to reveal yourself.
44 posted on 08/02/2008 2:36:32 PM PDT by Antoninus (Every second spent bashing McCain is time that could be spent helping Conservatives downticket.)
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To: raybbr
What does that have to do with accusing me of eugenics?

Everything.

I would think that the moralists would be pleased at the prospect of eliminating rapists, murderers, etc.

You favor eliminating people based upon a statistical model.

45 posted on 08/02/2008 2:37:52 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: humblegunner
Crack they might have smoked, crimes they might have committed. Not all people are good. Even fewer cure cancer.

But all have a right to live. By your logic, as Arthur mentioned above, it would be ok to kill 5-year-olds too because they might turn out to be bad people.
46 posted on 08/02/2008 2:38:59 PM PDT by Antoninus (Every second spent bashing McCain is time that could be spent helping Conservatives downticket.)
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To: wagglebee

I’ve often thought of this when I heard of some 30 something year old woman who can’t find someone to marry? Perhaps they just weren’t allowed to be born?


47 posted on 08/02/2008 2:39:19 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: Antoninus
And there you have it. It only took about 10 posts for you to reveal yourself.

As what?

48 posted on 08/02/2008 2:46:19 PM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
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To: humblegunner

It’s true that not all people are good.

The fact that some people are good is not the primary argument against abortion.

However, the fact that some people are bad IS an argument that is often made FOR abortion—i.e., that many of those who are aborted would turn out to be criminals.

I am merely pointing out that, IF that argument for abortion is accepted, then logically, it is also an argument for legalizing the killing of all five-year-olds, or ten-year-olds, because among them are also ALL the future criminals in their age group.

Of course, there’s the question: Is it okay to kill people without evidence or a trial? Is it okay to kill people without evidence or a trial, if the reason the evidence doesn’t exist is that the person being executed hasn’t committed any crime?


49 posted on 08/02/2008 2:48:01 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: wagglebee; raybbr
Anything to avoid the reality that 50 MILLION babies were deliberately murdered right?

Not at all, and I'm sorry that's how you take it.

As raybbr pointed out, the problem is the hyperbole of these "missing Facebook friends."

Focusing on the facts of the abortions and the numbers of them is one thing. Speculating beyond that is another.

50 posted on 08/02/2008 2:56:24 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Liberty Wins
This guilt is the reason for the extreme antogonism of the left towards pro-lifers. Even within the Republican party, there is intense bitterness among the "country club" Republicans towards grassroots conservatives over this issue.

Agreed.

Then there are the conservatives who get irritated when silly tactics are employed to support a good cause.

51 posted on 08/02/2008 2:58:53 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Arthur McGowan

But you just went against the point of the article... that librarian friend might never have been born.

Does that mean abortion is a good thing? No.

But it does point out the flaw in her argument.


52 posted on 08/02/2008 3:01:31 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: raybbr
As what?

Someone who thinks that the murder of 50 million unborn babies could be a net positive for society.
53 posted on 08/02/2008 3:03:59 PM PDT by Antoninus (Every second spent bashing McCain is time that could be spent helping Conservatives downticket.)
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To: exit82
And that’s one reason we are importing slave labor in the form of illegal immigration.

Well, many people seem to be against the importation of labor. Are you?

54 posted on 08/02/2008 3:04:22 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: wagglebee

That’s true but the 40 million abortions since the early 70’s in the usa have also certainly deprived us of creeps, lowlifes, criminals and other unsavory types, too.

It’s kind of silly to lament all the positive aspects lost and at the same time not entertain the clear truth that we lost a good share of antisocial members of society.

One can be against abortion, like me, and still find this type of heart-tugging a silly and immature exercise.


55 posted on 08/02/2008 3:05:56 PM PDT by Sgt Joe Friday 714
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To: Antoninus
Someone who thinks that the murder of 50 million unborn babies could be a net positive for society.

But, I never said that. It's your inference. I was pointing out that along with lamenting the loss of "good" we would have to lament the loss of "bad". To do otherwise would be hypocritical.

56 posted on 08/02/2008 3:07:02 PM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
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To: Gondring
Then there are the conservatives who get irritated when silly tactics are employed to support a good cause.

And then there are "conservatives" who spend an entire afternoon bashing other conservatives over tactics on an issue that they supposedly agree on.

If you're truly against abortion, let other folks oppose it as they see fit. You are not all-wise and all-knowing. And as you should be able to see from this thread, some of us find this "silly tactic" to be quite profound. Are we not allowed to think so without some sneering ninny telling us otherwise?
57 posted on 08/02/2008 3:07:50 PM PDT by Antoninus (Every second spent bashing McCain is time that could be spent helping Conservatives downticket.)
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To: raybbr
But, I never said that. It's your inference.

Then please, by all means, disabuse me of my inference. Is the murder of 50 million unborn children a catastrophe and a crime against nature in your mind? Or is it a net positive for society?

I was pointing out that along with lamenting the loss of "good" we would have to lament the loss of "bad".

I lament the legal and premeditated destruction of human life before it has a chance to be "good" or "bad".
58 posted on 08/02/2008 3:11:48 PM PDT by Antoninus (Every second spent bashing McCain is time that could be spent helping Conservatives downticket.)
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To: Antoninus
If you're truly against abortion, let other folks oppose it as they see fit.

Then I take it you will not criticize my approach, which is to argue that focus should not be placed on either illogical emotional appeals or legislative force, but by logical and sensible appeal to intellect and emotion.

My approach includes criticizing what I see as counterproductive actions. I appreciate you letting me do this as I see fit.

Thank you.

59 posted on 08/02/2008 3:13:55 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Antoninus
Is the murder of 50 million unborn children a catastrophe and a crime against nature in your mind? Or is it a net positive for society?

Why only the two choices? Should my opinion be limited to your words?

60 posted on 08/02/2008 3:16:10 PM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
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