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Where is McCain's message?
The Pittsburgh TRIBUNE-REVIEW ^ | Sunday, August 3, 2008 | Salena Zito

Posted on 08/03/2008 6:04:14 AM PDT by Salena Zito

An old political adage says, "He who sets the debate wins the election." If the presidential election was held tomorrow, it would be hello President Barack Obama because, so far, John McCain is handing him a victory.

McCain is better than the campaign he has run so far. Most people admit that McCain is an inspirational figure -- even Obama has admitted that -- so why isn't McCain telling voters where he wants to lead them?

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1 posted on 08/03/2008 6:04:14 AM PDT by Salena Zito
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To: All

This “message” thing is a little overrated....but its hard for McCain to have such a “message” when you are pretty much similar to Obama on the issues (regardless of what McCain has said recently)

Except for being mostly white and supporting the Iraq war....not much diff between McCain and Obama. McCain has no message


2 posted on 08/03/2008 6:09:02 AM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (McBama....Over 300 Million Screwed)
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To: Salena Zito
McCain doesn't have a message because he doesn't really have an underlying set of principles, nor a history of analyzing issues against basic principles or the Constitution.

He's merely a politician (and successful gigolo - though not nearly as good in this regard as JF'nKerry) who's still pissed that W beat him 8 years ago.

3 posted on 08/03/2008 6:10:52 AM PDT by Paladin2 (Huma for co-president! (it ain't over 'til it's over))
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To: Salena Zito

“Where is McCain’s message?”

He left it in his other jacket.


4 posted on 08/03/2008 6:13:46 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (I voted Republican because no Conservatives were running.)
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To: Paladin2

4 years ago.


5 posted on 08/03/2008 6:14:42 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (I voted Republican because no Conservatives were running.)
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To: Conspiracy Guy

John Mc Cains message is here!!

http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/?p=652


6 posted on 08/03/2008 6:20:02 AM PDT by chicagolady (Mexican Elite say: EXPORT Poverty Let the American Taxpayer foot the bill !)
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To: Salena Zito

mccain’s all we got,

so enjoy!

the other choice sux.


7 posted on 08/03/2008 6:21:19 AM PDT by ken21 (people die and you never hear from them again.)
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To: Salena Zito
Most people admit that McCain is an inspirational figure

Who came up with that one?

McCain -- inspirational???? He can't even get reporters to show up at his gigs [recall that only one (1) reporter showed up at his last NH trip].


8 posted on 08/03/2008 6:21:37 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Conspiracy Guy
"McCain won a 48%-30% victory over Bush in the New Hampshire primary. In the South Carolina primary, however, Bush soundly defeated McCain. Some credit Bush's win to the fact that it was the first major closed primary in 2000, which negated McCain's strong advantage among independents. Some McCain supporters blamed it on the Bush campaign, accusing them of mudslinging and dirty tricks, such as push polling that implied that McCain's adopted Bangladeshi-born daughter was an African-American child he fathered out of wedlock.[6] McCain's loss in South Carolina damaged his campaign. Although McCain won a few additional primaries, Bush took the majority of the remaining contests and the nomination at the Republican National Convention in Philadelphia."

2008 - 2000 = 8 QED.

9 posted on 08/03/2008 6:22:06 AM PDT by Paladin2 (Huma for co-president! (it ain't over 'til it's over))
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To: Paladin2

I reread your comment and realized that I misunderstood. I thought you were talking about JF’n Kerry.

My bad.


11 posted on 08/03/2008 6:26:22 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (I voted Republican because no Conservatives were running.)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

McCain has a message, but he has to run FROM it in order to get elected.

He is strongly opposed to First Amendment rights for citizens. He wrote Campaign Finance Reform to squeeze the little guy out of political races. He continues to advocate the outlawing of 527s.

He is strongly in favor of amnesty for million of illegals, even though over 70% of the citizens are against it. Just a couple of weeks ago, we visited La Raza and promised to continue pushing Comprehensive Immigration Reform (aka, McCain-Kennedy; aka, amnesty for illegals). [Ironically, La Raza decised to endorse Obama.]

There are many other examples of McCain’s message -— that he does NOT want to voters to look at too closely.


12 posted on 08/03/2008 6:26:52 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: chicagolady

Good points.

Still I rewrote this old song to express my view.

I’m not afraid of no Osama,
Long as I’ve got my own Obama,
Riding on the dashboard of my car.
I know he will save this nation,
All through proper tire inflation.
Add tune ups and I know he’ll take us far.

Go and get your own Obama,
He’s wiser than the Dahli Lama,
Leading us, to new hope and change.
If you don’t see his Marist leaning,
Then your diaper must need cleaning.
As for me I’ll vote for John McCain.

Everybody Now!

I’m not afraid of no Osama,
Long as I’ve got my own Obama,
Riding on the dashboard of my car.
I know he will save this nation,
All through proper tire inflation.
Add tune ups and I know he’ll take us far.

Go and get your own Obama,
He’s wiser than the Dahli Lama,
Leading us, to new hope and change.
If you don’t see his Marist leaning,
Then your diaper must need cleaning.
As for me I’ll vote for John McCain.


13 posted on 08/03/2008 6:29:36 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (I voted Republican because no Conservatives were running.)
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To: Salena Zito

The media hype and leftist bias causes people to think Obama will win. The polls will continue to predict an Obama win, because the polls are controlled by the media.

But when the average American goes to the polls, he will ask himself: Do I want an experienced leader, someone who will keep this country safe from terrorists, or do I want a guy who has training wheels on his bicycle? Do I want someone who understands the link between capitalism and freedom, or do I want someone who wants more government and higher taxes? At least 51% will be smart enough to choose John McCain.


14 posted on 08/03/2008 6:32:50 AM PDT by pleikumud
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

That’s it !Any troll around there?

Didn’t hear McCAIN on energy policy and Drilling?
Didn’t hear McCAIN on U.N. reform,on IRAN,on pro-life policy,on economy and healthcare?
If you want to hear...listen!

Obama’s troll ,by the way,make their little work to drive some “conservatives” to stay home in November!
OUbSama is in trouble i know!


15 posted on 08/03/2008 6:34:37 AM PDT by Ulysse (i)
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To: ken21
mccain’s all we got,

so enjoy!

the other choice sux.


That is like saying: So, you have a rock in your shoe. Live with it.

==

McCain is all we got because the GOP didn't learn anything from the 2006 defeats.

Pubbies continue to think they can vote for the same ole politicians and get a different result. Look at how many on FR all the sudden post that McCain will turn in to a conservative when he gets in the Oval Office.

It ain't gonna happen. McMaverick-reaching-across-the-aisle likes his maverick status too much. And with the bully pulpit at his use, he will be more of a maverick-reaching-across-the-aise because he needs his friends on the other other side to get anything done. Conservatives will be lucky to get a tube of lube.


16 posted on 08/03/2008 6:35:31 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: TomGuy

yeah, but hey!

do you really want obama redistributing your money to po’ folks?


17 posted on 08/03/2008 6:43:36 AM PDT by ken21 (people die and you never hear from them again.)
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To: TomGuy
McCain isn't the candidate until the convention. If the Republicans embrace change, they can select a better candidate.

Time to work on the education of local Congress Critters.

18 posted on 08/03/2008 6:45:00 AM PDT by Paladin2 (Huma for co-president! (it ain't over 'til it's over))
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To: Salena Zito

Where’s his message?

Let’s see, he wants to drill off the coast, he wants to keep the Bush tax cuts, he wants to allow tax credits for health care and let the health providers compete for the business instead setting up a larger Fed Bureaucracy, he wants to let the conditions on the ground dictate out troop removals from Iraq, he is for a strong national defense...

If there is no message, how do i know all about this?


19 posted on 08/03/2008 6:45:57 AM PDT by 101voodoo
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To: Salena Zito

His message is....I’m not Obama....nuff said


20 posted on 08/03/2008 6:56:21 AM PDT by xp38
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To: Salena Zito

McCain’s only hope for victory is to make Obama the issue.


21 posted on 08/03/2008 7:01:22 AM PDT by kabar
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To: ken21
do you really want obama redistributing your money to po’ folks?

One economic analyst on FoxNews a couple of weeks ago showed very little different in the amounts of spending an Obama or a McCain would do, based on their campaign promises.

After 8 years of open-checkbook Republicanism, is it really going to matter which one writes the checks next? Both will be funding essentially the same porkbarrel coffers.
22 posted on 08/03/2008 7:01:41 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: 101voodoo
Let’s see, he wants to drill off the coast, he wants to keep the Bush tax cuts

Ironically, those first two are from the 'enlightened' McCain. He was again' both of 'em before he was for 'em.

Oh, but since he is a Republican, that is not a flipflop, or two.
23 posted on 08/03/2008 7:04:08 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: TomGuy

Indeed McCain changed his position on coastal drilling but he had a legitimate reason to do so, escalating energy costs to consumers. As for the Bush tax cuts, he also has a valid reason for that change, it being the slowing economy and rising jobless rate.

These are valid and totally different then the Hussein changes based strictly on political expediency.


24 posted on 08/03/2008 7:12:20 AM PDT by 101voodoo
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To: Salena Zito

McCain’s message.

I have nothing to offer but fear itself.


25 posted on 08/03/2008 7:16:20 AM PDT by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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To: Salena Zito
McLaims problem: How do you PimP slap a black man whining for an Affirmative Action position hiding that he is a Marxist Operator when McLaim is himself a Socialist Operator.. with both being Globalists in character like George Bush...

Thats a real problem.. takes some rhetorical danceing around...

26 posted on 08/03/2008 7:25:57 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: Salena Zito
drill here/drill now and building 40+ new nuke plants is where part of his message is...
27 posted on 08/03/2008 7:27:28 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist -CTHULHU/NYARLATHOTEP'08 = Nothing LESS!!!)
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To: Ulysse

Good point


28 posted on 08/03/2008 7:32:55 AM PDT by italianquaker (Odumbo is too busy to visit our injured troops,what a disgrace)
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To: Salena Zito

McCain’s message is
lower taxes,
drilling for oil,
securing America both at home and abroad,
Strong leadership.

The obambi’s supporters and the trolls here trying to divide conservative votes should try harder, McCain is doing well in this election campaign.


29 posted on 08/03/2008 7:36:58 AM PDT by GregH (Duncan Hunter is a nativist and NOT a conservative.)
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To: GregH

McCain’s message is:
lower taxes, (recently wouldn’t pledge no new taxes)
drilling for oil, (maybe, but not in ANWR)
securing America both at home and abroad, (not on the Southern Border, prefers comprehensive Shamnesty)
Strong leadership (on moderate to Left-leaning issues like Global Warming - oh joy...)


30 posted on 08/03/2008 7:46:17 AM PDT by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: Salena Zito

Salena, that is a very good article and while I agree with several of your points I do disagree with others.

However, IMHO, John McCain is so much bigger than obama, you are absolutely correct in that assertion. But again, as we have been discussing now for over a week, we have to keep highlighting the fact that obama is just a celebrity — that is it — he is literally just a celebrity.

To real working American’s, Patriotic Conservative Americans, the kinds of people that live and work and pray and worship in the traditional red states of this country, celebrity is just that — its entertainment, it has no real value and it comes and it goes — most red staters assume that celebrities will wind up on their a$# eventually, somewhere in hollyweird and headed to rehab — no one really holds them it that high of regard — they are fun to watch and even equally as funny to listen to when they comment about anything in politics — you know, with all of their vast worldly knowledge and experience (sarc) — they are fun to laugh at.

Now take a man like John McCain, why isn’t he out there banging the drum about who he is and what he has done — because again, like much of the red staters that know anything at all about Honor, Courage, Commitment, Service, Sacrifice, and Integrity you simply don’t brag about yourself.

So, you allow your record to speak for itself — In Senator McCain’s case lets look at his record;

=> The son and grandson of distinguished Navy admirals, John McCain deeply values duty, honor and service of country. Naval Academy Graduate, 22-year career as a naval aviator.

=> His naval honors include the Silver Star, Bronze Star, Legion of Merit, Purple Heart, and the Distinguished Flying Cross.

=> John McCain, first elected to the U.S. House of Representatives from Arizona in 1982.

=> Elected to the United States Senate in 1986, after serving two terms in the U.S. House.

Those are the values that red state America will pay attention to when the time comes.

Go hang out at any small town VFW for an afternoon...you will hear the ground truth.

This is county fair season, go talk folks there...go to a NASCAR event...what you will see and what you will hear will convince you that there is no conceivable way obama gets elected president.

Because Americans don’t want anything to happened to the country that they love and revere.

American’s are funny people, they are generally slow to anger but will support and defend her when pushed hard enough and long enough, generally speaking.

When you compare what Mr. Barack “paris britney hussein” Obama, has to offer, all he has is 2.5 years in the U.S. Senate and a one week world tour — you simply cannot possibly compare the records. He is literally an empty suit, his resume would fit nicely and the back of his business card.

The majority of red staters sincerely believe obama is NOT qualified to be the Commander-in-Chief of the Worlds most exquisite all volunteer military ever assembled in the history of all mankind nor will that turn that kind of trust over to him — to see “if it might work out.”

Barrak has two character flaws that red state Americans are finally perceiving, he has no clue what he is getting himself into and many red state Americans are also coming to the reality that if he were elected — he thinks he could just call a time out or ask for a do over — and what red state Americans know is that there are no time outs, there are not do over’s — the man that is elected this November either gets it right and America is secure or he gets it wrong and we are screwed...

I wouldn’t trust Barrak Hussein Obama with my son’s bucket of soldiers — let alone the real thing.

While I’m not popping any corks on any bottles of champagne to celebrate John McCains victory — I am, cautiously optimistic that when the red state Americans get back off vacation the end of August, they will start paying closer attention and scrutinizing these two men...one man is a true celebrity (a flash in the pan) and one is clearly an American Patriot...God Bless America — always!


31 posted on 08/03/2008 7:47:10 AM PDT by areukiddingme1 (areukiddingme1 is a synonym for a Retired U.S. Navy Chief Petty Officer and tired of liberal BS.)
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To: DTogo

McCain is still streets ahead of your favourite obambi( or Hunter or Tancredo), he is a war hero, his message on Iraq is instrumental on winning the war there, his fiscal conservatism .. enough reasons to support McCain in this election campaign.


32 posted on 08/03/2008 7:53:26 AM PDT by GregH (Duncan Hunter is a nativist and NOT a conservative.)
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To: TomGuy

I find your relentless attacks on McCAIN only very suspiscious on your real motivations


33 posted on 08/03/2008 9:00:17 AM PDT by Ulysse (i)
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To: Salena Zito
So, what would ms Zito have McCain do...do the teaberry shuffle out on stage, swagger around a with a $hit-eatin' grin and start popping off about "hope" and "change"?

Maybe he could find a few "fringe" friends with communist ties and leanings, or telling how much America should be damned.

I'm not a nut about McCain, but his MESSAGE is his many years of service to this country, both military and government. His ability to lead is not based on his relationship with rap artists or a mouthy wife.

If nothing else, McCain should be elected as a "place holder" to keep hussein away from the Supreme Court nominations coming up...if for nothing else.

Hussein doesn't have a message, he has a line of bull$hit that resonates with people who know jack $hit about politics and who thinks this election is American Idol.
34 posted on 08/03/2008 9:02:55 AM PDT by FrankR (Liberalism is Communism by the drink - P.J. O'Roarke)
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To: Salena Zito

McLosers messsage: I’m a senile cussing Liberal Democrat who happens to have an (R) after his name.


35 posted on 08/03/2008 10:02:16 AM PDT by VRWC For Truth (No mas Juan "Traitor Rat" McAmnesty)
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To: Salena Zito
Most people admit that McCain is an inspirational figure -- even Obama has admitted that -- so why isn't McCain telling voters where he wants to lead them?

Multi-trillion dollar amnesty for God's children, fighting Global Warming with a multi-trillion dollar Cap-and-Trade scam, massive meddling with the economy, etc. He doesn't emphasize to voters where he wants to lead because conservatives wouldn't support him. His message is not inspiring, unless you're a liberal.

McCain bad. Obama bad. There is nothing to be inspired about. The sooner folks realize that the next 4 to 8 years are going to be about fighting against either one of these fools, the better chance we'll have of curtailing the destruction of our nation.

36 posted on 08/03/2008 10:25:28 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Salena Zito

“Where is McCain’s message?”

“Vote for me, it’s my turn and besides, I’m not Obama”


37 posted on 08/03/2008 11:23:20 AM PDT by Grunthor (In 2006, McCain voted against defining marriage between one man and one woman)
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To: ken21

“the other choice sux....”

....slightly more.


38 posted on 08/03/2008 11:26:08 AM PDT by Grunthor (In 2006, McCain voted against defining marriage between one man and one woman)
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To: GregH

“trolls here trying to divide conservative votes should try harder”

When Juan McAmnesty got the nod, the division between REPUBLICANS and CONSERVATIVES to a large extent, began.


39 posted on 08/03/2008 11:33:15 AM PDT by Grunthor (In 2006, McCain voted against defining marriage between one man and one woman)
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To: GregH
Duncan Hunter is a nativist and NOT a conservative

"Nativist"?

What's your definition of "conservative"?

40 posted on 08/03/2008 11:38:53 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: GregH; DTogo
his fiscal conservatism ..

If he is such a fiscal conservative how come he voted against President Bush's tax cuts calling them tax-cuts for the rich?

If he is such a fiscal conservative, how come he support the instituting the Carbon cap-and-trade system that will bankrupt the US while requiring a whole new government agency to administer?

If he is such a fiscal conservative, how come he is bound and determined to legalize the millions of Illegal Alien criminals in our country who will, because they work at minimum wage, sop up billions upon billions of tax-payer taxes in the form of social benefits?

If he is such a fiscal conservative, how come his health plan calls for the Federal Government to subsidize the States so they can provide for health insurance for those who cannot afford it like illegal aliens and others?

If he is such a fiscal conservative, how come his legistlation, McCain-Lieberman, included a 50 cents/gallon tax on gasoline to solve the Global Warming scam?

If you are going to tell a whopper, try and do it to an ignorant audience!
41 posted on 08/04/2008 12:06:44 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (GOP: If you reward bad behavior all you get is more bad behavior.)
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To: GregH
Duncan Hunter is a nativist and NOT a conservative

Is English your first or second language, or is it just basic logic you have troubles with?
42 posted on 08/04/2008 12:07:58 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (GOP: If you reward bad behavior all you get is more bad behavior.)
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To: Ulysse; TomGuy
I find your relentless attacks on McCAIN only very suspiscious on your real motivations

I find the idea that you are a conservative quite suspicious given your need to attack a poster who is simply telling the truth about McCain.

In case you haven't figured it out already, conservatives deal with the truth, even if it is someone from their party.

They do not take part in 'tribal' politics, or in other words, our guy wrong or right.

We try to make sure our own house is straightened out before we attempt to attack the other guy.
43 posted on 08/04/2008 12:11:27 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (GOP: If you reward bad behavior all you get is more bad behavior.)
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To: xp38; Salena Zito

Actually no, but it is a start. Recall 1988....Willie Horton, the Pledge of Allegiance, and Boston Harbor.

It’s too bad that H.W. didn’t actually put building respect for the nation as one of his governing themes...

Salena, you may have some insights on why that campaign fits or doesn’t fit your model...


44 posted on 08/04/2008 6:17:00 PM PDT by scrabblehack
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To: SoConPubbie

So YOU ARE SAYING THE TRUTH....!????!
Well ,if you say so...It must be...TRUE...I suppose.

But just take time to think 2 seconds...
I have too much respect for truth(i am a french doctor who studied philosophy and theology ) to use it in unappropriate ways...Dem-libs will also swear they are telling the TRUTH.

BTW i was speaking of your RELENTLESS attacks on McCAIN make you appear as someone motivated by hatred or as a militant of untold causes(OBAMA cause?).
If you were a true conservative looking for truth above all ,i would wait for fair and balanced analysis of the REAL situation of USA and the political stage


45 posted on 08/05/2008 1:23:49 AM PDT by Ulysse (i)
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To: SoConPubbie

This election is a choice about Obam or McCain, even the simple minded one issue idiots or the so called conservative purists should understand that.


46 posted on 08/08/2008 8:50:09 PM PDT by GregH (Duncan Hunter is a nativist and NOT a conservative.)
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