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"McCain joins Obama on offshore drilling"
Herald Tribune ^ | August 3, 2008 | Brian Knowlton

Posted on 08/03/2008 1:21:15 PM PDT by enduserindy

"WASHINGTON: A day after Senator Barack Obama said he could support broad energy legislation even though it would permit offshore oil drilling, which he has opposed, an aide to Senator John McCain said Sunday that he too might support such a package."

(Excerpt) Read more at iht.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; 2008electionbias; democrats; dnctalkingpoints; drillheredrillnow; drilling; energy; mccain; myfriends; nobama08; obama; offshoredrilling; poorpoorrinos; propagandwingofdnc; theobamessiah; zogbyism
He what? OH, for it, before against, before before it from the previous position of the future administration. Redefining a position while redefining a candidate and redefining the issue is not the news media's job. Boy they like him in Europe, maybe he will lead them after the November loss.
1 posted on 08/03/2008 1:21:16 PM PDT by enduserindy
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To: enduserindy

Drill you two Hypocrites!!! The Commies and the RINO have their finger in the wind and it is blowing up both of their butts.


2 posted on 08/03/2008 1:23:25 PM PDT by bmwcyle (If God wanted us to be Socialist, Karl Marx would have been born in America.)
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To: enduserindy

I guess McCain joined Obama on agreeing that the surge was a good idea, Sheesh.


3 posted on 08/03/2008 1:24:22 PM PDT by Hugin (Mecca delenda est!)
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To: enduserindy

McCain!!!!! You have Barry by the short hairs on this issue and you wuss out by “joining” him....Why don’t you snuggle and sing Kumbaya. Give me a friggin break.


4 posted on 08/03/2008 1:24:44 PM PDT by shankbear (Al-Qaeda grew while Monica blew)
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To: enduserindy

Unbelievable headline.


5 posted on 08/03/2008 1:25:58 PM PDT by library user
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To: enduserindy

Could somebody mention to the Trib, that if they had somebody covering the McCain campain, they may have noticed that McCain came out for offshore drilling weeks ago.


6 posted on 08/03/2008 1:26:22 PM PDT by G Larry (I'm investing in "Pitchfork Futures"!!)
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To: enduserindy

McCain joins Obama on offshore drilling?!?!?

What a misleading headline. Shouldn’t that be Obama joins McCain. McCain supported offshore drilling BEFORE Obama did.

McCain needs to start supporting drilling in ANWR and see how long it takes Obama to adopt his position.


7 posted on 08/03/2008 1:26:32 PM PDT by KansasGirl ( b/c Obama is just creepy.)
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To: shankbear

That’s the wording it was spun to. Where did McCain say he “joins” Obama!? If anything Obama flip-flopped towards McCain’s position!


8 posted on 08/03/2008 1:27:01 PM PDT by SolidWood (Obamarxislamism, the threat to our Republic!)
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To: enduserindy
I believe McCain much earlier shifted positi0on because it became apparent that the circumstances called for it out of a national interest.

Much later in the day now, Obama is coming to that party...but I believe he is doing it purely out of hius onw self interest at this point. it's clear now it will cost hium dearly in the polls and at the ballot box...and that is why he is shofting.

It is entirely possible that McCain, the smarter and more experienced poliitican of the two realized this same thing earlier, but I also believe McCain recognizes and is responding to the national interest on this issue as well.

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NOBAMA MOVEMENT SPREADS ACROSS THE NATION

9 posted on 08/03/2008 1:27:07 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: shankbear

I don’t see any quotes here. Why believe the way the Left Stream Media is spinning it? McCain has always favored such a package, and the author is trying to make it sound like he is changing his postition to agree with Obmama, when exactly the opposite is true.


10 posted on 08/03/2008 1:28:26 PM PDT by Hugin (Mecca delenda est!)
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To: Hugin

Live by the media, die by the media. The media brought McCain to this funeral and they’ll bury him. They’re proving that every day.


11 posted on 08/03/2008 1:29:28 PM PDT by AuntB ( "During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: KansasGirl

Also, I’d be surprised if Barry ever does anything to support offshore drilling. Just words.


12 posted on 08/03/2008 1:29:38 PM PDT by KansasGirl ( b/c Obama is just creepy.)
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To: library user
Unbelievable headline.

This takes the cake... and I thought Pravda and Izvestia were propaganda organs!!

13 posted on 08/03/2008 1:31:49 PM PDT by johnny7 ("Duck I says... ")
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To: enduserindy

Unbelievable! I don’t know why I continue to be shocked at the media’s blatant Obamessiah worship.....


14 posted on 08/03/2008 1:32:51 PM PDT by marinamuffy (No Obamanation! I will gladly vote for McCain if only because of the unthinkable alternative!)
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To: shankbear
This is apparently the statement that the IHT interpreted as 'joining Obama':

Nancy Pfotenhauer, a McCain economic adviser, said on CNN on Sunday that "Senator McCain is open to compromise packages" on energy.

Sounds like a more general statement than the headline would imply.

15 posted on 08/03/2008 1:32:56 PM PDT by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: enduserindy

McCain joins Obama... Obama joins McCain...

Anyway it’s stated we’re headed for a train wreck of an election.


16 posted on 08/03/2008 1:32:56 PM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: enduserindy
McCain isn't joining anybody, he has been saying for weeks he wanted off shore drilling, of course that while Mr Barrack super star was worrying about how he was going to look on the front of paper money.
17 posted on 08/03/2008 1:33:46 PM PDT by Americanexpat
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To: SolidWood

OK. He had started to play a bit of hardball and I was concerned that he gotten all nice again. He needs to slam Obammy all that much harder, all the time.


18 posted on 08/03/2008 1:37:17 PM PDT by shankbear (Al-Qaeda grew while Monica blew)
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To: enduserindy

The source of this utterly dishonest reporting is the International Herald Tribune.

The reason for this utterly dishonest reporting is that the International Herald Tribune is owned and directed by the NY Times.


19 posted on 08/03/2008 1:39:15 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember (When the past no longer illuminates the future, the spirit walks in darkness.)
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To: enduserindy
McCain joins Obama on offshore drilling

At first I thought this was a gag, a FReeper perpetrating a hoax to exaggerate how the drive-by media would cover this story, if Barack did a total flip-flop on off-shore drilling. Sure, the International Herald Tribune is the international edition of the NYT, but this is really beyond Orwellian "Newspeak". Sure, McCain's "spokeperson" was stupid for falling right in line, but ultimately it was the way that the mention of McCain's prior "opposition" to OCS drilling was inserted after Barack's new found "support" for same that makes this piece something "Dr." Goebbels would have been proud to claim.

20 posted on 08/03/2008 1:39:27 PM PDT by pawdoggie
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To: library user

Not really, when you consider IHT is owned by NYT.


21 posted on 08/03/2008 1:41:24 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: FormerACLUmember

“The reason for this utterly dishonest reporting is that the International Herald Tribune is owned and directed by the NY Times.”

The same NY Times who endorsed McCain for the Republican Primary.

New York Times endorses Clinton, backs McCain over Giuliani - CNN.com
January 25, 2008

NEW YORK (CNN) — The New York Times endorsed Arizona Sen. John McCain for the Republican presidential nomination over Rudy Giuliani and the rest of the GOP ...
www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/01/25/nytimes.endorses/index.html -

” “Senator John McCain of Arizona is the only Republican who promises to end the George Bush style of governing from and on behalf of a small, angry fringe,” the paper’s editorial board wrote.

“With a record of working across the aisle to develop sound bipartisan legislation, he would offer a choice to a broader range of Americans than the rest of the Republican field.”

“”Mr. McCain was one of the first prominent Republicans to point out how badly the war in Iraq was being managed.”


22 posted on 08/03/2008 1:52:52 PM PDT by AuntB ( "During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: Jeff Head

O-bam has a new economy frill,
It is based on a three-dollar bill.
“Our money, says he, doesn’t look much like me,
But when I’m elected IT WILL!”

“The Lincoln on a five-spot is white,
And old Abe just wasn’t too bright,
He couldn’t foresee, a Messiah like me,
I’ll replace him with Reverend Wright!”

“Then there’s the one-dollar vex,
And the slave-master Washington hex,
So, I say no-no to George Washington dough.
I’ll mint it with Malcolm X!”


23 posted on 08/03/2008 1:56:34 PM PDT by meandog (please pray for future President McCain, day minus 146 and counting)))
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To: shankbear

Attacking McCain based on MSM spin? Give us a friggin break.


24 posted on 08/03/2008 2:05:30 PM PDT by paudio (Like it or not, 'conservatism' is a word with many meanings. Yours may be different from mine.)
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To: enduserindy

Where’s this reporter (and I use this term loosely) been? For instance:

“Perhaps goaded by the ads, Obama said last week that he was being attacked partly because he had a “funny-sounding name” and did not look like past presidents. The remark from Obama, an Illinois Democrat who seeks to become the first black president, brought a charge from a top McCain aide that Obama was “playing the race card.”

I believe the ads came out after he said these things.


25 posted on 08/03/2008 2:06:18 PM PDT by bamagirl1944 (That's short for Alabama, not Obama)
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To: enduserindy
Joseph Goebbels eat your heart out.

If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed.

Adolf Hitler

Note to the IHT: Here's hoping, eh?

26 posted on 08/03/2008 2:09:40 PM PDT by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: paudio

You missed my earlier reconsideration of that. But it would not have surprised me greatly if McCain had indeed done that. He needs to be ruthless and on the offensive from now until November, damned the MSM.


27 posted on 08/03/2008 2:09:56 PM PDT by shankbear (Al-Qaeda grew while Monica blew)
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To: enduserindy

I believe that Obama has stated that he would allow a limited amount of off shore drilling where the people want it, even though he personally opposes off shore drilling. In oher words, if the NYBYs oppose the drilling, there will no drilling. This is an echo of McCain’s statement on new taxes. Just a way to have both side of an issue.


28 posted on 08/03/2008 2:10:47 PM PDT by Eva (CHANGE- the post modern euphemism for Marxist revolution.)
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To: enduserindy
Are they talking about the package in which they'll open up drilling and then go and tax oil companies?

As far as I can tell, this will result in a wash for the consumer, since opening drilling will bring down the price whereupon the taxation will bring prices right back up

In the end only the government comes out ahead with increased revenue from taxation.

This is only a reminder that both McCain and Obambi are, after all, government workers - politicians.

29 posted on 08/03/2008 2:11:11 PM PDT by the anti-liberal
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To: enduserindy
Here's an idea:

You're both in the Senate!
Draft the frickin' legislation while you can.

Next year, one of you will have to rely on your own partyto do it for you.

30 posted on 08/03/2008 2:11:52 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Teachers open the door. It's up to you to enter.)
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To: enduserindy
Future New York Slimes Headline:

War is Peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.
31 posted on 08/03/2008 2:13:21 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media. Liberty, Equality, Fraternity and Free Laz.)
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To: AuntB
The media brought McCain to this funeral and they’ll bury him. They’re proving that every day.

And yet despite their best efforts McCain keeps going up in the polls. At this point the more the media fawns over Obama, the more it makes him the issue, which helps McCain.

32 posted on 08/03/2008 2:14:16 PM PDT by Hugin (Mecca delenda est!)
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To: mewzilla
Meanwhile, if anyone else is curious....

US drilling activity dips

33 posted on 08/03/2008 2:17:08 PM PDT by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: AuntB

The same NY Slimes that endorsed McCain.

The problem is that McCain was endorsed solely to lose the election. He is showing far more fight and electability than the Slimes anticipated.


34 posted on 08/03/2008 2:23:41 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember (When the past no longer illuminates the future, the spirit walks in darkness.)
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To: AuntB

Oh, they will probably make a correction in a couple of days. Of course no one will notice it and from now until election it will be general knowledge that B.O. led in this new position.


35 posted on 08/03/2008 2:26:23 PM PDT by my right
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To: enduserindy

There is something very strange going on with this gang of ten compromise on drilling. It doesn’t really open up off shore drilling, it simply suggests the possibility, while concentrating on alternative sources, and Lindsey Graham supports it.

Graham is one of those compromised Senators who was given cover on the gay marriage act by going with McCain. My guess is that McCain has not said no to such a compromise, but hasn’t agreed with it either. McCain seems to be playing John Kerry, trying to take both sides of every issue.


36 posted on 08/03/2008 2:30:13 PM PDT by Eva (CHANGE- the post modern euphemism for Marxist revolution.)
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To: enduserindy

A**hat headline, McCain came out for drilling a long time ago, who the hell do these communist think they are fooling? Only other communist!


37 posted on 08/03/2008 2:44:31 PM PDT by calex59
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To: library user

Indeed - extraordinarly dishonest. And as you can see, even some FReepers fell for it hook, line, and sinker.


38 posted on 08/03/2008 2:54:02 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: my right
I went over on the Harold Tribune's site, scanned down to their “Contact Us” thinking I would email them and suggest they should run a retract headline in light of their incompetent reporting...however, when I clicked onto the contact us ...it wouldn't do anything...wonder how many others tried to let them know that we are aware of their slimy tactics and are holding them accountable...this MSM we have are below revolting and crooked.
39 posted on 08/03/2008 3:00:19 PM PDT by Molly T.
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To: Molly T.

HMMM?? A little window pops up for me where you can post your message?


40 posted on 08/03/2008 3:27:29 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: chris_bdba

Well....I’ll just give it another try.....maybe it’s not them, but my web keyboard which is evidently on it’s last leg..thanks for letting me know.


41 posted on 08/03/2008 3:37:38 PM PDT by Molly T.
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To: chris_bdba
Well, I tried again...still didn't get anywhere when I clicked onto the “Contact Us”. words...so I guess it must be my web TV keyboard...darn....well, I hope others have and continue to contact them just to let them know we know what a corrupt rag they print and that they are just another example of how far the media in this country has fallen.
42 posted on 08/03/2008 3:56:31 PM PDT by Molly T.
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To: enduserindy
If this were actually a true and accurate report, I would say this is How Not To Get Elected President As A GOP Candidate 101, but I already know that McCain is for drilling.
43 posted on 08/03/2008 3:59:04 PM PDT by Force of Truth (Legalize the Constitution::::The power to tax is the power to kill.)
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To: KansasGirl
McCain needs to start supporting drilling in ANWR and see how long it takes Obama to adopt his position.

More proof that McCain needs to convince liberals and moderates to move to the right with well-defined conservative ideas rather than accepting liberalism in order to get moderate votes.

44 posted on 08/03/2008 4:09:35 PM PDT by Force of Truth (Legalize the Constitution::::The power to tax is the power to kill.)
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To: Eva
There is something very strange going on with this gang of ten compromise on drilling. It doesn’t really open up off shore drilling, it simply suggests the possibility, while concentrating on alternative sources, and Lindsey Graham supports it.

Good point. I'd rather this bill did not get passed and wait for the real thing later on if need be. Let it fester, because in the mean time, the Democrats will be reeling from the fact that the American people know that they are not for the people's demand to drill.

45 posted on 08/03/2008 4:17:40 PM PDT by Force of Truth (Legalize the Constitution::::The power to tax is the power to kill.)
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To: enduserindy

Come on! McCain was for this way before Obama switchbladed his stance.


46 posted on 08/03/2008 4:17:58 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Force of Truth

Someone needs to call them on what exactly, “limited off shore drilling” means. I think we already have “limited off shore drilling.


47 posted on 08/03/2008 5:15:25 PM PDT by Eva (CHANGE- the post modern euphemism for Marxist revolution.)
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To: Eva
Someone needs to call them on what exactly, “limited off shore drilling” means. I think we already have “limited off shore drilling.

You'd think the wording alone would give them a clue.

48 posted on 08/03/2008 7:27:32 PM PDT by Force of Truth (Legalize the Constitution::::The power to tax is the power to kill.)
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