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PG&E backs gay marriage rights
Sacramento Bee ^ | July 30, 2008 | Aurelio Rojas

Posted on 08/03/2008 11:17:37 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy

Pacific Gas and Electric Co., California's largest investor-owned utility, has contributed $250,000 to defeat a ballot measure that would ban same-sex marriage in the state, it was announced Tuesday. Businesses often steer clear of ballot measures that deal with social issues for fear of alienating customers. But PG&E officials said the San Francisco-based company's effort to defeat Proposition 8 on the Nov. 4 ballot is consistent with its long-time advocacy of equality for all.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: gays; homosexualagenda; notadamandsteve; perverts; pge; prop8; samesexmarriage
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Two summers ago, human beings in the Central Valley literally died because they could not afford to run their air conditioners. Furthermore, during the winter months, many poor customers cannot afford to heat their homes and apts.

I am furious!! PG&E flushing our fees down the toilet to promote their liberal agenda.

1 posted on 08/03/2008 11:17:37 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy
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To: Jim Robinson; CounterCounterCulture; NormsRevenge

Have you heard about this?


2 posted on 08/03/2008 11:18:27 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: Saundra Duffy

Maybe they figure married gays use more electricity that co-habitating ones... who knows.


3 posted on 08/03/2008 11:28:04 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: Saundra Duffy

Also here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2053354/posts

Not to mention the infrastructure in my part of Central Cal. is going to pot. Many more outages since AB1890 gutted PG&E.


4 posted on 08/03/2008 11:31:57 PM PDT by Drago
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To: Saundra Duffy
I am furious!! PG&E flushing our fees down the toilet to promote their liberal agenda.

Me too, damn monopolies, PG&E is full of fraud, graft and kickbacks as well, the PUC covers for 'em.

5 posted on 08/03/2008 11:34:39 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (John McCain, the Manchurian Candidate.)
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To: Saundra Duffy

bookmark for later.


6 posted on 08/03/2008 11:39:07 PM PDT by IrishCatholic (No local communist or socialist party chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing.)
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To: Saundra Duffy

Will PG&E seek a rate hike to pay for this?


7 posted on 08/03/2008 11:51:03 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: Cementjungle
Maybe they figure married gays use more electricity that co-habitating ones... who knows.

Don't know about that, but they'll run up the health costs for PG&E that's for sure.

8 posted on 08/04/2008 12:09:55 AM PDT by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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To: Saundra Duffy

nice to know that the utility company has enough resources to engage in this kind of activity. imagine if that monney was used for something like, oh I dunno, lowering the cost of energy to consumers?


9 posted on 08/04/2008 3:39:05 AM PDT by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: Saundra Duffy
“Businesses often steer clear of ballot measures that deal with social issues for fear of alienating customers. But PG&E officials said the San Francisco-based company's effort to defeat Proposition 8 on the Nov. 4 ballot is consistent with its long-time advocacy of equality for all.”

BS cover story. I believe the truth is closer to PG&E buckling to pressure. SF owns Hetch Hetchy reservoir system. PGE draws hydro-electric power from that system. SF has toyed for years with the idea of going into independent power production. My guess is PGE was threatened with loss of hydro-electric power revenues unless they contributed to defeat of Prop 8. The suits at PGE caved.

10 posted on 08/04/2008 4:06:48 AM PDT by Polynikes (Yo, homie. Is that my briefcase?)
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To: camle

there should be something illegal about this.


11 posted on 08/04/2008 4:11:54 AM PDT by television is just wrong
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To: camle

there should be something illegal about this.


12 posted on 08/04/2008 4:17:29 AM PDT by television is just wrong
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To: Saundra Duffy

Question...How do they prove they are gay?


13 posted on 08/04/2008 4:19:13 AM PDT by screaminsunshine
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To: television is just wrong

using public funds froma public utility commission to further a perverted political agenda should be illegal.

our fees are making them way too much of a profit.


14 posted on 08/04/2008 4:19:26 AM PDT by television is just wrong
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To: Saundra Duffy

Is there another power company there you can switch over to?


15 posted on 08/04/2008 4:20:51 AM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: Saundra Duffy

Another reason why only natural persons should be allowed to contribute to political campaigns.


16 posted on 08/04/2008 4:27:27 AM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: Saundra Duffy

SierraWasp

PING!


17 posted on 08/04/2008 4:29:14 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Say Obama were "Pinky", Then who is "The Brain"?)
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To: Saundra Duffy

Why does a power company feel the need to support queer “marriage”?


18 posted on 08/04/2008 5:23:59 AM PDT by Impy (Spellcheck hates Obama, you should too.)
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To: Navy Patriot
The story of what was done to PG&E to buckle under the Socialist thumb happened decades ago. Under then Speaker in CA, Willie Brown. It involved the building of Diablo Nuclear Plant Facility, and Willie wanting to have PG&E basically grant a friend of his, some "energy". PG&E said no; suddenly all kinds of liberals and protestors came out of the woodworks claiming the Facility was unsound. And the more the socialists did these things, led and organized by SF Democrats, the more the Plant was going into budget overruns. In the end, PG&E buckled to the demands of Willie Brown to "help" his friend.

Fast forward to something more current:

Former reporter Lance Williams did some phenomenally breathtaking investigative work on Willie's strongarming of PG&E. I still have hardcopies of those articles. So good and fair was he, well, he was almost sent to prison for digging up facts.

A quote from the above-urled article:

snips:

Williams said, "I am glad we did these stories.

"We took President Bush at his word when he said our stories were a 'service.' I don't mean to sound immodest when I say I think our stories provided a public benefit, and it is now disappointing beyond words that I would face prison for doing public-service journalism. But it doesn't make me regret what we did.''

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Ethics boss raps worker for revealing PG&E error, 2003

--snips:

San Francisco's ethics boss has reprimanded an employee for making public $800,000 in campaign finance irregularities involving Pacific Gas & Electric Co.'s efforts to block a public-power initiative, city records show.

Ethics Commission Director Virginia Vida placed a letter of reprimand in the personnel file of city campaign finance officer Joseph Lynn last month, accusing him of "selectively" publicizing PG&E's campaign finance reports in hopes of getting the utility in trouble for alleged clean-government violations.

Lynn denies wrongdoing and says he was punished for simply answering questions about public documents filed with the Ethics Commission. In an interview, he said he worries that Vida will fire him and muzzle the staff from providing information to the public.

--end snips

For additional reading:

How a Willie Brown real estate venture snagged tens of millions of dollars in government subsidies and opened the way for Democratic heavyweight Angelo Tsakopoulo to make even more money

Pretty decent timeline at this site: Tidbits:

--snips:

"1986 State politicians Willie Brown and Bill Lockyer negotiated a bill that exempted tobacco and alcohol from product liability lawsuits in the “napkin deal” at Frank Fat’s restaurant.

(SFC, 4/7/97, p.A20)"

"1989 The Holy Land Foundation was founded in California as an Islamic charity. In 2002 it filed suit against the US Departments of Justice, Treasury and State for violation of its civil rights and putting it out of business as a suspected conduit for terrorist funds. (SFC, 3/16/02, p.A14)

"1995 A state law made an independent, non-profit foundation responsible for the operations of the new state museum in Sacramento to open in 1998. (WSJ, 6/11/97, p.CA3)

19 posted on 08/04/2008 5:44:27 AM PDT by Alia
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To: Polynikes

BINGO! See my post, um, above this one.


20 posted on 08/04/2008 5:45:21 AM PDT by Alia
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To: Alia

Oh, and lest I be accused of not giving feminists their due in this ring of corruption... D-Ellen Tauscher was involved in this persecution and strongarming of PG&E. She’d just evolved from being a “community organizer” and was appointed to a committee, by Willie Brown, to “investigate” PG&E - while their local activists did simultaneous protests.


21 posted on 08/04/2008 5:50:59 AM PDT by Alia
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To: Polynikes

Let’s be more specific here: San Francisco Democrats openly, printed in the media, declared they were going to SEIZE PG&E assets in the City. Amos Brown was the most “virulent” and vocal about just “grabbing and seizing control of the substations operated by PG&E. Amos Brown, Mr. Jeremiah Wright of the West, was Willie Brown’s Number 1, when Willie was mayor of SF.


22 posted on 08/04/2008 5:53:55 AM PDT by Alia
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To: Navy Patriot

PG&E is the only game in town. We have no choice but to pay them to screw us.


23 posted on 08/04/2008 7:22:14 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: ViLaLuz

No, there is no other power company. We are totally and completely screwed.


24 posted on 08/04/2008 7:24:12 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: Saundra Duffy

You’re staring in the face of FASCISM, plain and simple.

The government provides a business with a monopoly, and protects that monopoly, as long as that business is doing the “politically correct” (promoting and forcing an agenda on people) thing.


25 posted on 08/04/2008 7:28:50 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: Alia

I am proud to report that I called Willie Brown “Bill Clinton’s shoe shiner” during impeachment.


26 posted on 08/04/2008 7:43:09 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: Saundra Duffy
Willie Brown was a Rev. Jim Jones supporter who continued to support Jim even after the murder/suicides.

Weird that an electric company would get involved with promoting gay marriage.

27 posted on 08/04/2008 7:46:14 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: Dante3

Today (Monday, Aug. 4) at 1 p.m. Scott Hawkins will be on the Internet - streaming live -discussing the same sex marriage proposal (Prop 8). Please tune in today if you can at 1:

http://www.centralvalleytalk.com


28 posted on 08/04/2008 8:01:32 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: Cementjungle

Today (Monday, Aug. 4) at 1 p.m. Scott Hawkins will be on the Internet - streaming live -discussing the same sex marriage proposal (Prop 8). Please tune in today if you can at 1:

http://www.centralvalleytalk.com


29 posted on 08/04/2008 8:01:55 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: Drago

Today (Monday, Aug. 4) at 1 p.m. Scott Hawkins will be on the Internet - streaming live -discussing the same sex marriage proposal (Prop 8). Please tune in today if you can at 1:

http://www.centralvalleytalk.com


30 posted on 08/04/2008 8:02:30 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: Dante3; Navy Patriot; IrishCatholic; rawhide; yankeedame; camle; Polynikes; ElkGroveDan; ...

Today (Monday, Aug. 4) at 1 p.m. Scott Hawkins will be on the Internet - streaming live - discussing the same sex marriage proposal (Prop 8) and the PG&E outrage. Please tune in today if you can at 1:

http://www.centralvalleytalk.com

Someone needs to TURN OUT THE LIGHTS at PG&E!!!!!!!! Or at the very least give them a major shock!!


31 posted on 08/04/2008 8:08:48 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: MrB

PG&E is literally killing people because some Californians cannot afford A/C in summer or heating in winter. This is so infuriating!! Last month our PG&E bill was over $400 - for ONE LOUSY MONTH!! During winter we had one bill for one month that was over $500 - and we are not frivolous, rich people by any stretch.


32 posted on 08/04/2008 8:28:31 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: Drago

I feel a FReep comin’ on but for me it will have to be in Fresno because I don’t have time or money to get to San Francisco where the main PG&E culprits hang out but they have an office bldg here in Fresno. We’ll see . . .


33 posted on 08/04/2008 8:30:23 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: Saundra Duffy

That’s a huge bill. I put in a new system last fall (heat pump/ac/heater).

Last summer my bills were in the $300 range, and this summer I haven’t topped $150. I guess you’d say it was worth it.


34 posted on 08/04/2008 8:31:08 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: MrB

Yep, that’s fascism alright...


35 posted on 08/04/2008 8:43:51 AM PDT by Alia
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To: Saundra Duffy
Are you familiar with T.U.R.N.?

An interesting little group....

Big Businesses Should Pay Their Fair Share June 17th, 2008
CARE for California- Why TURN is demanding that big business pay their fair share

36 posted on 08/04/2008 9:02:13 AM PDT by Alia
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To: Saundra Duffy

Willie Brown has had several scandals of his own. The first one which hit was he had a boyfriend. This was huge within the bay area circles. A firefighter. The Lavender Lobby had all the details. Then, Willie Brown fathered a baby out of wedlock. I admit, none of it interested me as much as what the Dems were doing to California.


37 posted on 08/04/2008 9:05:11 AM PDT by Alia
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To: rockinqsranch; Grampa Dave; NormsRevenge; ElkGroveDan; calcowgirl

Thank you rockingsranch. I see this is the second thread over the weekend. (weakend?)


38 posted on 08/04/2008 11:57:43 AM PDT by SierraWasp (I'm not against the environment, just GovernMental EnvironMentalism!!! (our new state religion))
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To: Saundra Duffy
Yes, and I am thoroughly disgusted.

Public utilities, especially monopolies, ought not be allowed to contribute to campaigns. People, yes. Utilities, no! Total corruption and it comes out of our pocketbooks.

39 posted on 08/04/2008 2:28:24 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture (Thwart the radical homosexual movement - YES on 8!)
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To: Saundra Duffy

“No, there is no other power company. We are totally and completely screwed.”

Maybe the citizens can start their own power collective. I’ve seen it done in other states, with lower rates than the big power companies. If there’s laws against having a collective, get rid of the corrupt politicians who are blocking it.


40 posted on 08/04/2008 5:47:56 PM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: Alia

Thank you for the well written research post. I was aware that PG&E had tried to behave more responsibly quite a while ago, and about Willie the whore running shakedown artist, but the details of the leftist Rat operations should always be reviewed for clear thinking.


41 posted on 08/04/2008 5:50:31 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (John McCain, the Manchurian Candidate.)
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To: Navy Patriot
Thank you for saying so, Navy Patriot. Yes, the data must be reviewed; a chronicle of what has transpired to make "energy" corporations look like thieves, when that is in fact, not the real story. It's a story about Socialists have done to we the people, and to corporations: through regulations, dog/pony shows, protests, aid and abetting by the MSM. The Dems have made Corporations and the People to be viewed as "evil".

Through the years, I've observed PG&E do all within its power to resist the tyranny of the Dems. They can only do so much; the rest is up to the voter citizens.

42 posted on 08/04/2008 7:02:18 PM PDT by Alia
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To: Alia

Thank you so much for this post!!! Scott used part of your post on his program on centralvalleytalk.com today as an email sent to him. Your research is really appreciated. God Bless.


43 posted on 08/04/2008 11:46:26 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: Saundra Duffy

Glad to have helped; I had hoped to listen to the show but was unable to. What part(s) did he use from that post, if you remember, please?


44 posted on 08/05/2008 4:04:28 AM PDT by Alia
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To: rockinqsranch; Impy; Alia; calcowgirl; ElkGroveDan; dalereed; Czar; sergeantdave; Grampa Dave
Here's the answer... This explains everything!!!
45 posted on 08/05/2008 11:11:20 AM PDT by SierraWasp (I'm not against the environment, just GovernMental EnvironMentalism!!! (our new state religion))
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To: ViLaLuz
Is there another power company there you can switch over to?

You could install solar panels and sell some electricity back to PG&E's grid on sunny days. The only other option is to move.

46 posted on 08/05/2008 11:15:30 AM PDT by dan1123 (If you want to find a person's true religion, ask them what makes them a "good person".)
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To: SierraWasp

Confused.

What has Proctor and Gamble’s profits, divestations, etc. to do with Pacific Gas & Electric supporting Gay Marriage?


47 posted on 08/05/2008 1:46:10 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Say Obama were "Pinky", Then who is "The Brain"?)
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To: rockinqsranch; Anybody; Everybody; All

Nothing! I screw up entirely!!! (scowl)


48 posted on 08/05/2008 3:36:32 PM PDT by SierraWasp (I'm not against the environment, just GovernMental EnvironMentalism!!! (our new state religion))
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To: rockinqsranch

Actually, I didn’t screw up at all!!! It was a test to see if anyone responding to my reply and link was actually going to the link and reading it!!! (smirk)


49 posted on 08/05/2008 3:38:01 PM PDT by SierraWasp (I'm not against the environment, just GovernMental EnvironMentalism!!! (our new state religion))
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To: SierraWasp; calcowgirl; Carry_Okie; dalereed; AuntB; Grampa Dave; NormsRevenge; Amerigomag; ...
...while SoCal Edison continues spamming TV 24/7 with its idiotic environmental wacko ads on "Flex Your Power". The funding for this "Stop Global Warming" globaloney comes from--SURPRISE!--the ratepayers.

Time for a really good class action lawsuit.

50 posted on 08/06/2008 5:11:19 PM PDT by Czar ((Still Fed Up to the Teeth with Washington))
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