Skip to comments.Knights Templar to Vatican: Give us back our assets
Posted on 08/04/2008 5:23:47 PM PDT by Clint Williams
The Knights Templar are demanding that the Vatican give them back their good name and, possibly, billions in assets into the bargain, 700 years after the order was brutally suppressed by a joint venture between the Pope and the King of France.
If the Holy See doesnât comply, the warrior knights, renowned for liberating the Holy Land, will deploy that most fearsome of weapons: a laborious court case through the creaking Spanish legal system.
The Daily Telegraph reports that The Association of the Sovereign Order of the Temple of Christ has launched a court case in Spain, demanding Pope Benedict ârecogniseâ the seizure of assets worth â¬100bn. The Spanish-based group of Templars apparently says in a statement: "We are not trying to cause the economic collapse of the Roman Catholic Church, but to illustrate to the court the magnitude of the plot against our Order." This might come as a surprise to those who believe that the order of warrior monks â also credited with possessing the Holy Grail and laying the foundation of the European banking system - was smashed in 1307 by Pope Clement V and Philip IV of France.
At the time, the order was accused of a multitude of crimes, including two medieval biggies - sodomy and heresy.
However, recently discovered Vatican papers showed that the order had never been declared heretics, burnings at the stake for the leadership not withstanding.
Rather, it appeared that the orderâs suppression was more a piece of realpolitik on the popeâs part to pacify Philip, who was somewhat irked by the prospect of the powerful order increasing its continental activities after Jerusalem fell to the Turks.
Despite the orderâs brutal apparent suppression, its legacy has been claimed by numerous successor organisations, and besmirched by popular authors ad nauseum.
One of the successors, Ordo Supremus Militaris Templi Hierosolymitani, is apparently recognised by Unesco.
We contacted the UK branch, otherwise known as the The Grand Priory of Knights Templar in England and Wales, to see if they could throw any light on the matter but they have yet to get back to us.
The Grand Prioryâs website says the modern organisation is about humanitarian and charity work. There is no mention of the Holy Grail, though it does support the maintenance of the Holy Places.
And if youâre looking for esoteric rites or secret higher knowledge, youâre likely to be disappointed. The website says: âPlease donât expect to be enlightened with some supposed âsecretâ knowledge, because nothing exists.â
Of course, any conspiracy theorist will tell you thatâs exactly what youâd expect them to say. Â®
Good luck, dear Knights.
"Fetch me the soft cushions!"
The Vatican should do exactly as the Knights Templar ask and should condemn Philip IV of France.
The treasure is on Oak Island. For a small advance fee, I will send the co-ordinates.
It’s about time they showed some juevos on this!
As Spongebob Squarepants would say, “Well, good luck with that!”
No one shall pass without my permission!
Call your Holy See representative on this!
Or fax them at 050-6180-007
They'll have to prove legal succession to have legal standing.
And they can't prove that. Too many claimants. It's like the Dook and the Dolphin in Huckleberry Finn.
The vatican is a good deal like Bill Clinton. They’ll give apologies all over the place which will mean absolutely nothing.
They evolved into Free Masons.
OF THE BENEFIT THAT PROCEEDETH FROM SUCH DARKNESS, AND TO WHOM IT ACCRUETH
After that certain Churches had renounced this universal power of the Pope, one would expect, in reason, that the civil sovereigns in all those Churches should have recovered so much of it as (before they had unadvisedly let it go) was their own right and in their own hands. And in England it was so in effect; saving that they by whom the kings administered the government of religion, by maintaining their employment to be in God's right, seemed to usurp, if not a supremacy, yet an independency on the civil power: and they but seemed to usurp it, inasmuch as they acknowledged a right in the king to deprive them of the exercise of their functions at his pleasure.
But in those places where the presbytery took that office, though many other doctrines of the Church of Rome were forbidden to be taught; yet this doctrine, that the kingdom of Christ is already come, and that it began at the resurrection of our Saviour, was still retained. But cui bono? What profit did they expect from it? The same which the popes expected: to have a sovereign power over the people. For what is it for men to excommunicate their lawful king, but to keep him from all places of God's public service in his own kingdom; and with force to resist him when he with force endeavoureth to correct them? Or what is it, without authority from the civil sovereign, to excommunicate any person, but to take from him his lawful liberty, that is, to usurp an unlawful power over their brethren? The authors therefore of this darkness in religion are the Roman and the Presbyterian clergy.
Hey, I think I’m going to sue the Vatican as well for something they did to my ancestors in the Middle Ages. I don’t know of anything in particular; but I’m sure something or other happened back then.
Saving for later e-mailing to some friends.
Better yet, reassemble your forces and regain your lost wealth by plundering the lands of the Unbelievers. Start with Saudi Arabia ...
Being a Cuban, I am going to sue: (1) The Lebanese Government, for the invasion of my ancestral home by the Pheonecians and thier spawn, the Carhaginians; (2) Greece for the invasion of my ancestral home by the Ancient Greeks; (3) Italy and the City of Rome for the conquest of Spain by Rome; (4) Germany, lets not forget those damn Visigoths!; (5) [Can’t sue Islam, its a Religion of Peace, we were the Crusading occupiers (repeat 20,000 times] (6) France, for the War of Spanish Succession and that horrible Napoleonic occupation; (7) England, how dare they invade Napoleonic Spain! and (8) The United States, for the Spanish American War.
Hell, good luck just proving they are the same organization.
Where do I sign up?
On the other hand they were just stealing from others who had stolen so there is no justice to be had by giving them anything.
However, if this proceeds through the Courts, then I want the Maltese Falcon exempted from the proceedings and declared a world treasure which cannot be possessed by anyone.
The treasure was on Oak Island. It was moved to Rosslyn Chapel in Scotland and now resides in the basement of the new Louvre Annex in Paris.
Didn't you see "The DaVinci Code"?
“moved to Rosslyn Chapel in Scotland”
A head fake by the Illumanati.
maybe we just want people to think that ...
...the Pope should sue England for Henry the 8th’s seizing of church property...
What do their demands matter - they were a religious organisation answerable directly to the Pope. If they claim to be the organisation, he can simply smile and say, by the way, I order you to relinquish all claims to those assets your order used to hold as part of the Catholic Church...
Yeah, maybe next time they will read the fine print about infallibility. Also, I can see the next headline:
Vatican to Knights Templar: You'll get your money when you can show you have been executing your duty of "protecting pilgrims en route to the Holy Land for the last few hundred years. Mind you, I am not defending the Church on this one, but I am pointing out that even a revered name can file a frivolous lawsuit
You left out the Vandals and Suevi, the Byzantines (under Justinian), and the Franks (under Charlemagne).
“....Being a Cuban, I am going to sue: (1) The Lebanese Government, for the invasion of my ancestral home by the Pheonecians and thier spawn, the Carhaginians; (2) Greece for the invasion of my ancestral home by the Ancient Greeks; (3) Italy and the City of Rome for the conquest of Spain by Rome; (4) Germany, lets not forget those damn Visigoths!; (5) [Cant sue Islam, its a Religion of Peace, we were the Crusading occupiers (repeat 20,000 times] (6) France, for the War of Spanish Succession and that horrible Napoleonic occupation; (7) England, how dare they invade Napoleonic Spain! and (8) The United States, for the Spanish American War....”
I’d like to join you suit as a class action against Rome for building that damn wall across England and depriving my Scottish ancestors of their livelihood of raiding and pillaging.
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