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Homosexuality Punishable by Death?
Aftenposten ^ | August 4, 2008

Posted on 08/04/2008 6:20:57 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

Last November the Norwegian Islamic Council asked the European fatwa council what attitude it should have to homosexuals.

The fatwa council, which debates questions of Muslim faith and doctrine, had its annual meeting in Paris three weeks ago, but did not discuss the subject, according to daily newspaper Dagsavisen.

"It's wrong of the Islamic Council to wait for the "verdict" from the fatwa council in such an important case. By not saying 'no' to death penalties for gays, it shows attitudes that conflict with both democratic and humanitarian values," says Sara Azmeh Rasmussen. She is the only openly lesbian Muslim in Norway.

The head of the Norwegian Islamic Council, Senaid Kobilica, is not worried that the fatwa council will decide in favour of the death penalty. "I'm 100 percent certain that the fatwa council will not come out in favour something which conflicts with European law. The council wasn't able to deal with the question of homosexuality this time, but it thinks that subject is quite relevant and wants to look at the matter more," says Kobilica.

The Islamic Council, which represents 60,000 Muslims in Norway, is still not willing to say whether it is for or against the death penalty for homosexuals, until the fatwa council has spoken.

"It's very important to have the European fatwa council with us in difficult matters like this. I am not in favour of the death penalty, but there are Islamic texts that various people understand differently. This is why we need to know the attitude of the authority before we make a decision," says Kobilica.


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1 posted on 08/04/2008 6:20:58 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I think God has made a decision about death and Homosexuality that did not involve any input from anyone....


2 posted on 08/04/2008 6:22:59 PM PDT by Hi Heels (Now here at the Rock we have two rules. Rule #1 obey all rules. Rule #2 no writing on the walls...)
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To: Hi Heels

How is that?


3 posted on 08/04/2008 6:24:02 PM PDT by trumandogz ("He is erratic. He is hotheaded. He loses his temper and it worries me." Sen Cochran on McCain)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
I'm 100 percent certain that the fatwa council will not come out in favour something which conflicts with European law.

YET

4 posted on 08/04/2008 6:25:41 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (John McCain, the Manchurian Candidate.)
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To: trumandogz

Read the Book,


5 posted on 08/04/2008 6:26:11 PM PDT by silentreignofheroes (Old Dogs and Children,and Watermelon Wine.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
The Islamic Council, which represents 60,000 Muslims in Norway, is still not willing to say whether it is for or against the death penalty for homosexuals, until the fatwa council has spoken.

Come on guys, just come out and say it! You know you want to kill the homos...

That will go over real well with the Euros.

6 posted on 08/04/2008 6:27:26 PM PDT by chaos_5 (Some one needs to tell the "Mad Cow" to call the House back into session!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

It is absolutely the Divine will of God that heathen Muslims would be fearful of gays, they would all be gay in a free society because they are impotent without the ability to overpower their women with burkas, veils and threats of murder. What punks...if they were Christians, they would not be threatened by gays, they would be forgiving...Muslims do not understand or accept the concept of forgiving!


7 posted on 08/04/2008 6:28:17 PM PDT by Stayfree (***************************************IF IT IS LEFT, IT CAN'T BE RIGHT!!)
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To: LAforme2008; purpleraine

Your kind of party?


8 posted on 08/04/2008 6:31:14 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: Hi Heels
From looking at the pictures would it not cool to collect a bunch of non musies and slander islam in front the thugs and see if they attack and when they do self defense cut their heads off and if they don't carry out their threats call them a bunch of wussies who wear panties for hats.

That should get them going!!!!

Second thought hold a good English pork sausage up in front of them and tell them tour going to shove it down their pie holes as you cut their throats....

9 posted on 08/04/2008 6:32:24 PM PDT by guitarplayer1953 (For the foolishness of God is wiser than human wisdom)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Norwegian gays should be more tolerant of Islamic belief. If they don’t accept a death sentence for being gay, it might hurt the Muslims’ feelings.


10 posted on 08/04/2008 6:34:27 PM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard
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To: guitarplayer1953

Ok sweetie. One word. Decaf. :)


11 posted on 08/04/2008 6:34:50 PM PDT by Hi Heels (Now here at the Rock we have two rules. Rule #1 obey all rules. Rule #2 no writing on the walls...)
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To: Grizzled Bear

Huh?


12 posted on 08/04/2008 6:36:10 PM PDT by purpleraine
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To: purpleraine
Huh?

You have posted in support of homosexuals in the military so I figured you might be concerned about the safety and welfare of homosexuals in Europe's newest Muslim dominated nations.

While I disagree with military members practicing homosexual behavior I do not believe people should be murdered for homosexuality (other than pedophiles, of course).

Are you concerned about homosexuals being under a "Fatwa" by Islam, or are you just concerned how those mean old American Christians treat homosexuals?

13 posted on 08/04/2008 6:44:46 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Perhaps.

SCOTUS likes to rely on foreign law for direction. This might be a good start.


15 posted on 08/04/2008 6:50:51 PM PDT by tips up
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Sara Azmeh Rasmussen. She is the only openly lesbian Muslim in Norway.

David Yeagley once wrote, that the surest sign of your enemy's defeat is when their women join you.

I weep for the downfall of our culture.

16 posted on 08/04/2008 6:53:46 PM PDT by Old Sarge (CTHULHU '08 - I won't settle for a lesser evil any longer!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Considering what the radicals think about women and gays, I’m always amazed when liberals take a position about them being better than us . . .


17 posted on 08/04/2008 6:54:07 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Teachers open the door. It's up to you to enter.)
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To: montag813

“State Dept. friends of mine talked for years about gay orgy’s Arafat would attend and debauch himself. He eventually died of AIDS. “

I assume when I ask you if you have ANY sort of proof to back up that accusation, you’re gonna have real proof, right?

I mean you wouldn’t come in here with an accusation like that, with nothing but some limp “well my close friend, who I can’t identify, who used to work at the State Department told me all about it...” Would you?


18 posted on 08/04/2008 6:58:56 PM PDT by Lord_Baltar
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To: Grizzled Bear
I support all of our military. Do you only support the ones who are heterosexual?

Yeah homosexuals under the fatwa is one of my top 3 favorite topics. I have google alerts for that topic and I pay a reference and clipping service to send me all of the articles. Would you like to be on the circulation list?

This is what happens when you make assumptions.

19 posted on 08/04/2008 7:04:59 PM PDT by purpleraine
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

Hey Norway (and the rest of socialist Europe), it looks like your chickens...are coming home...to Roost!


20 posted on 08/04/2008 7:05:11 PM PDT by Signalman
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The really funny thing is homosexuals are helping to create an Islamic state by weaking the West both morally and demographically. Once the policies they advocate come the fruition, the result (an Islamic state that governs by Sharia) will slaughter them without mercy. Liberals think that no matter what happens they will always have their tony little enclaves where they sip coffee with their friends. How wrong they are. Be careful what you wish for...


21 posted on 08/04/2008 7:06:25 PM PDT by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The woman in the artile is an openly lesbian muzz, and her head is still attached to her body? The local imams are falling down on the job.


22 posted on 08/04/2008 7:14:34 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Your photo montage displays a target rich environment. It’s interesting the muzz don’t try to pull that kind of crap here. Perhaps they know that Americans are still citizens, are armed, and aren’t so appeasing as their British cousins.


23 posted on 08/04/2008 7:17:08 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: Hi Heels
Really?

From the looks of the picture they should be drinking decaf.

If I were to come across a rally like that in the USA I would do every thing in the world to provoke them in to attacking me then me and Mr Smith and Mr Wesson would have the last word.

Black Jack Pershing had the right way to deal with this sort of non sense

25 posted on 08/04/2008 7:32:16 PM PDT by guitarplayer1953 (For the foolishness of God is wiser than human wisdom)
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To: Lord_Baltar

An old pal of the Ugly One said in a television interview that he was told that (reluctantly) by former aides of UO.


26 posted on 08/04/2008 7:34:48 PM PDT by expatpat
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To: Free ThinkerNY
She is the only openly lesbian Muslim in Norway.

Click here.

Cheers!

27 posted on 08/04/2008 7:44:18 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: guitarplayer1953

Black Jack Pershing had the right way to deal with this sort of non sense


I’m not familiar with your reference to Pershing. Are you referring to MacArthur, who in 1932 dispersed the commie veterans of the Bonus Army who were trying to extort money from the US government?


28 posted on 08/04/2008 7:48:12 PM PDT by FFranco
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To: Free ThinkerNY

This is all part of the battle between the extremes of the culture war—the Islamic nutcases and the hedonist nutcases. I’m so happy they’ve finally found each other.


29 posted on 08/04/2008 7:51:35 PM PDT by Antoninus (Every second spent bashing McCain is time that could be spent helping Conservatives downticket.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
By not saying 'no' to death penalties for gays, it shows attitudes that conflict with both democratic and humanitarian values," says Sara Azmeh Rasmussen. She is the only openly lesbian Muslim in Norway.

Not after her Muslim brothers chop her head off!

30 posted on 08/04/2008 7:54:43 PM PDT by airborne (Don't hate me because I'm white!)
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To: FFranco

I believe that when Pershing was in Manila took a band of Islamic guerrillas and dug a long ditch filled it with pig guts and lined them up and had a firing squad shot them and they fell in the pit. That seem to take a lot of steam out of the movement


31 posted on 08/04/2008 7:55:18 PM PDT by guitarplayer1953 (For the foolishness of God is wiser than human wisdom)
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To: FFranco

HOW TO STOP ISLAMIC TERRORISTS...... it worked once in our History...

Once in U.S. history an episode of Islamic terrorism was very quickly stopped. It happened in the Philippines about 1911, when Gen. John J. Pershing was in command of the garrison. There had been numerous Islamic terrorist attacks, so “Black Jack” told his boys to catch the perps and teach them a lesson.

Forced to dig their own graves, the terrorists were all tied to posts, execution style. The U.S. soldiers then brought in pigs and slaughtered them, rubbing their bullets in the blood and fat. Thus, the terrorists were terrorized; they saw that they would be contaminated with hogs’ blood. This would mean that they could not enter Heaven, even if they died as terrorist martyrs.

All but one was shot, their bodies dumped into the grave, and the hog guts dumped atop the bodies. The lone survivor was allowed to escape back to the terrorist camp and tell his brethren what happened to the others. This brought a stop to terrorism in the Philippines for the next 50 years.

Pointing a gun into the face of Islamic terrorists won’t make them flinch.

They welcome the chance to die for Allah. Like Gen. Pershing, we must show them that they won’t get to Muslim heaven (which they believe has an endless supply of virgins) but instead will die with the hated pigs of the devil.


32 posted on 08/04/2008 8:00:22 PM PDT by guitarplayer1953 (For the foolishness of God is wiser than human wisdom)
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To: guitarplayer1953

There is no one in our govenment with the will to do that.

It will take a nuke in a major US city, if that.


33 posted on 08/04/2008 8:02:46 PM PDT by airborne (Don't hate me because I'm white!)
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To: airborne
That is why the founding Fathers put the 2nd amendment in place.
34 posted on 08/04/2008 8:08:27 PM PDT by guitarplayer1953 (For the foolishness of God is wiser than human wisdom)
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To: guitarplayer1953

Thanks for letting me know about that. Though I had general knowledge of the success of the US military against the Philippine insurrection.

That would be an effective way to deal with Muslims today, just as it was more than 100 years ago.


35 posted on 08/04/2008 8:10:02 PM PDT by FFranco
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To: FFranco
The problem today is we have forgotten how to fight a war to win it.

Propaganda is a very powerful weapon if they had at the beginning of the Iraqi war let it be leaked out that all of the military bullets were greased with hog fat and all of our bombs has traces of pigs blood in them there would of been a lot less resistance.

36 posted on 08/04/2008 8:17:54 PM PDT by guitarplayer1953 (For the foolishness of God is wiser than human wisdom)
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To: guitarplayer1953; Fred Nerks; USF
"Forced to dig their own graves, the terrorists were all tied to posts, execution style. The U.S. soldiers then brought in pigs and slaughtered them, rubbing their bullets in the blood and fat. Thus, the terrorists were terrorized; they saw that they would be contaminated with hogs’ blood.

It is too bad we can not do this today. When we have to fight a politically correct war, and worry about our enemies "feelings", we will not defeat them!

37 posted on 08/04/2008 8:51:16 PM PDT by jan in Colorado (For Barack Hussein Obama TRUTH FILE see my homepage!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

If a h*mos**u*l and a muslim were locked in room together which would be turned?


38 posted on 08/04/2008 9:06:26 PM PDT by Impy (Spellcheck hates Obama, you should too.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Norwegian Islamic Council

That's just wrong any way you cut it.

Who's their leader, Mohammad bin Frozen?

39 posted on 08/04/2008 9:15:20 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: jan in Colorado
Islam doesn't really have a problem with homosexual behaviour because in arab 'culture' the dominant partner is not guilty of a deviant act, only the submissive partner is seen as guilty...just as the female victim of rape is the guilty party and the perp goes free.

I don't think homosexuality as such exists in the arab mind, they call it sodomy. Remember Imanutjob saying they don't have homosexuality in Iran?

It's purely and simply OUR laws and morals they are attacking, not their own. Islam can do no wrong, they follow the laws of allah dontcha know...

Of course in the 'golden age of islam' when slaves were numerous and castrated, there would have been no need for fatwas...it will take them several generations to get out of that 7th century mindset. If they live that long.

http://ethnikoi.org/iran.html

A man can have sexual pleasure from a child as young as a baby. However, he should not penetrate vaginally, but sodomising the child is acceptable. If a man does penetrate and damage the child then, he should be responsible for her subsistence all her life. This girl will not count as one of his four permanent wives and the man will not be eligible to marry the girl's sister... It is better for a girl to marry at such a time when she would begin menstruation at her husband's house, rather than her father's home. Any father marrying his daughter so young will have a permanent place in heaven. ["Tahrirolvasyleh", fourth edition, Qom, Iran, 1990]

A man can have sex with animals such as sheep, cows, camels and so on. However, he should kill the animal after he has his orgasm. He should not sell the meat to the people in his own village, but selling the meat to a neighbouring village is reasonable. ["Tahrirolvasyleh"]

If one commits the act of sodomy with a cow, a ewe, or a camel, their urine and their excrement become impure and even their milk may no longer be consumed. The animal must then be killed as quickly as possible and burned.

Wine and all intoxicating beverages are impure, but opium and hashish are not.

If a man sodomises the son, brother, or father of his wife after their marriage, the marriage remains valid.

During sexual intercourse, if the penis enters a woman's vagina or a man's anus, fully or only as far as the circumcision ring, both partners become impure, even if they have not reached puberty; they must consequently perform ablutions.

A woman who has contracted a continuing marriage does not have the right to go out of the house without her husband's permission; she must remain at his disposal for the fulfilment of any one of his desires, and may not refuse herself to him except for a religiously valid reason. If she is totally submissive to him, the husband must provide her with her food, clothing, and lodging, whether or not he has the means to do so. A woman who refuses herself to her husband is guilty, and may not demand from him food, clothing, lodging, or any later sexual relations; however, she retains the right to be paid damages if she is repudiated.

If a father (or paternal grandfather) marries off his daughter (or granddaughter) in her absence without knowing for a certainty that she is alive, the marriage becomes null and void as soon as it is established that she was dead at the time of the marriage.

If a man commits adultery with an unmarried woman, and subsequently marries her, the child born of that marriage will be a bastard unless the parents can be sure it was conceived after they were married. A child born of an adulterous father is legitimate.

Ali [son in law of Mohammed], having cut off the hands of two thieves, treated their wounds and offered them his hospitality, and this affected them so much that they became utterly devoted to him; or again when he heard that the marauding army of Muawiyah had abused a woman of one of the tribes, he was so upset and moved to pity he declared: "If a man died after such an occurrence, no one could blame him." And yet, despite a nature as sensitive as that, Ali bared his sword and hacked the perpetrators to pieces. This is the meaning of justice.

- "The Sayings of Ayatollah Khomeini, Political, Philosophical, Social and Religious" (The Little Green Book), ISBN number 0-553-14032-9.

(Now there's a FATWA!)

40 posted on 08/04/2008 9:41:30 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Lord_Baltar
I assume when I ask you if you have ANY sort of proof to back up that accusation, you’re gonna have real proof, right?

Publicly, no. To paraphrase Han Solo, Muslims have a habit of cutting people's heads off when they get upset. So I wouldn't do that to my friend. But Google around and you'll see plenty of corroboration for Arafat being a flaming homo. In fact, you should be able to find out about the Palestinian cartoonist who was murdered after making a cartoon which mereley hinted at Arafat's lifestyle.

41 posted on 08/04/2008 9:49:07 PM PDT by montag813
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To: Lord_Baltar; montag813

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=56641

Ion Pacepa, who was deputy chief of Romanian foreign intelligence under the Ceausescu regime and who defected to the West in 1978, stated in his memoirs the Romanian government bugged Arafat and had recordings of the Arab leader in orgies with his security detail.


42 posted on 08/04/2008 10:01:51 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: guitarplayer1953
Your points are all valid. Your message just read like you were a bit upset. Thus the decaf joke.

;)

43 posted on 08/04/2008 10:48:40 PM PDT by Hi Heels (Now here at the Rock we have two rules. Rule #1 obey all rules. Rule #2 no writing on the walls...)
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To: Hi Heels
When it comes to these things that are dragging the modern world back into the 7th century I do get a little upset.
44 posted on 08/04/2008 11:20:26 PM PDT by guitarplayer1953 (For the foolishness of God is wiser than human wisdom)
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To: ought-six

“Your photo montage displays a target rich environment. It’s interesting the muzz don’t try to pull that kind of crap here. Perhaps they know that Americans are still citizens, are armed, and aren’t so appeasing as their British cousins.”

They ARE ‘pulling that kind of crap’- or at least starting to- right here in America.

Observe:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lREzvxEAmA


45 posted on 08/13/2008 10:10:32 AM PDT by patriot08
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To: rbg81

Homosexuals, loud mouth lib women,and Hollywood degenerates will be the first to have their heads rolled.
They’re too stupid to realize this.


46 posted on 08/13/2008 10:33:42 AM PDT by patriot08
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To: guitarplayer1953

I wish you had come upon the Muzzie rally in New York City where they were stomping on the American flag and screaming, “You see this flag? It’s going beneath our feet. Our loyality will never be to this rag, but to Allah”.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lREzvxEAmA


47 posted on 08/13/2008 10:37:09 AM PDT by patriot08
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To: FFranco

I’m not familiar with your reference to Pershing. Are you referring to MacArthur, who in 1932 dispersed the commie veterans of the Bonus Army who were trying to extort money from the US government?
_______________________________

The story goes that Persing settled a bunch of Muzzie a$$es down by killing some of them and burying them with slaughtered pigs. LOL
.


48 posted on 08/13/2008 10:40:03 AM PDT by patriot08
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To: guitarplayer1953

The problem today is we have forgotten how to fight a war to win it.
Propaganda is a very powerful weapon if they had at the beginning of the Iraqi war let it be leaked out that all of the military bullets were greased with hog fat and all of our bombs has traces of pigs blood in them there would of been a lot less resistance.
_____________________-

No no no no. That’s not PC, doncha know?

.


49 posted on 08/13/2008 10:43:22 AM PDT by patriot08
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To: Fred Nerks

Crazy sobs
(Muzzies)


50 posted on 08/13/2008 10:46:33 AM PDT by patriot08
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