Posted on 08/05/2008 4:41:40 AM PDT by Neville72
how do we know?
Yes, but she is reporting what Techdude, an associate of Pam Geller (Atlas Shrugs) has discovered.
“Watch... Hillary will be sitting in the Whitehouse in 2009”
Perhaps this is the _real_ reason why Obama doesn’t want Hillary as a VP candidate.
She would have the ambition to be president.
She would have the knowledge and evidence to prove he was unqualified.
And she (and Bill) would have the will to “move” on him.
And - even if she chose not to make that move - Obama would always be under their influenece, knowing they had the goods against him....
- John
Who cares where he was born. The FACT that he forged his COLB, which is illegal, is enough to bring him down.
That might be what springs to your mind, but you’d be 100% wrong.
Not fully Eligible. But I won’t burden you with information.
I know it is ‘sealed’, but the original one already in their possession? Even so, all the reason to suspect that passage in his book as part of his long-term conniving.
It seems there’s enough biographical evidence from his Indonesian youth to merit a question from the alert and vigilant press.....bwhahaha!
Well heck, anyone can run for office.
The problem is that if something isn’t made of this subject now, as long as it has taken to uncover other things that has been scrubbed (such as some of his school records being “eaten by bugs”), he could waltz into office.
Because that is his half sister. She’s been in the news many times.
http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/obama/familytree/545473,BSX-News-wotreehh09.stng
“I suppose that this announcement could be a fake too, but it was found by someone who would have appeared to have a motive not to find it. Until and unless reasonable doubt can be cast upon this announcement though, people who suggest that Obama was not born as Obama in Hawaii will look pretty foolish to me”
You are missing some details.
If Obama was indeed born in Hawaii as “Obama”, then the newspaper announcement is correct.
BUT - the evidence is suggesting that when his mother married Soetoro, the original birth certificate was changed, to show Soetoro as the father of record and the name legally changed from Obama to Soetoro. Thus the current COLB is a fake and misrepresentation because of the name and parentage.
It goes further. Was Obama’s _citizenship_ changed, as well, to Indonesian, as that of his adopted father?
If so, that would revoke his American “birth citizenship” if [indeed] he held as much.
Yes, I realize he would have had no control over this at his age. BUT - could he not “reaffirm” his _American_ citizenship at age 18? If so, what was required to do that? And - DID he ever do that? Would this involve a written record? If so, where is it?
Does Obama still hold “dual citizenship” of both Indonesia and the USA? Is such a “dual citizen” eligible to become president?
Just some thoughts...
- John
I’m torn on that count. Ordinarily I think Hillary is a much worse opponent- if she had been the nominee from the get-go. But a large part of me believes the Dem train has left the station with Obama on it, and there is no turning back. Dem turnout for Hillary may be even worse than Obama if the nutroots throw in the towel and abandon the Dems altogether, and the middle ground votes mccain or not at all..
I agree with everything but the top one. The “marraige” in Kenya wasn’t legal by the British system of law, it was a “tribal” marraige.
But I still don’t think they were married. And even if they were, it doesn’t matter as Barack was apparently adopted by Lolo.
The campaign will eventually deny any knowledge of the COLB even though it is on their site.
The silence of the Clinton’s right now is very suspicious.
But even then, nobody will make a move because of the threats of violence, rioting, and OMG, cries of RACISM!!!!
Nobody wants to be labeled a RACIST!
Yes, Helen Thomas is eligible.
I agree that the Citizenship issue is likely a dead end and mostly serves to cloud the real issue. Obama and his campaign were party to creating and backing a forged COLB. This would really give a fair minded person pause. Obama is supposed to be better than you and me, and certainly far above this sort of crooked behavior.
If nothing else, and even though no laws are likely broken, we are faced with yet another set of questions about the man's judgment, character, and questions about just who he is.
“Because in Hawaii, the original birth certificate is destroyed when reissued for adoption.”
I can believe that the original BC is *sealed* by the court in which the adoption case is heard, but *destroyed* ... ? Maybe BO can’t produce his original BC because it was sealed by the court.
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