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Report: Sadr to disarm Mahdi Army (U.S. Winning In Iraq Alert!)
Stars & Stries ^ | 6 Aug 08 | S&S

Posted on 08/06/2008 6:24:51 AM PDT by xzins

Report: Sadr to disarm Mahdi Army

Stars and Stripes

Mideast edition, Wednesday, August 6, 2008

Anti-American cleric Muqtada al-Sadr intends to disarm his once-dominant Mahdi Army militia and remake it as a social-services organization, The Wall Street Journal reported Tuesday.

The transformation would represent a significant turnaround for a group that has been one of the most destabilizing anti-American forces in Iraq.

A new brochure, obtained by The Wall Street Journal and confirmed by al-Sadr’s chief spokesman, Sheik Salah al-Obeidi, states that the Mahdi Army will now be guided by Shiite spirituality instead of anti-American militancy. The group will focus on education, religion and social justice, according to the brochure, which is aimed at al-Sadr’s followers. The brochure also states that it "is not allowed to use arms at all," The Journal noted.

Posters have been put up in some areas of Baghdad saying a new direction for the Mahdi Army will be announced at this Friday’s prayers, the paper reported.

Disarmament is far from certain, the Journal noted, writing that the group is ridden with internal strife, and that al-Sadr now is believed to spend significant time outside the country, in Iran.

U.S. military spokesman Col. Jerry O’Hara told the Journal that the military welcomed the news, but said "the proof is always in the actions and not just the words, so we’ll take a wait-and-see approach."

Al-Sadr faces big challenges. The Journal wrote that hard-liners within the Mahdi Army will likely reject the new strategy, just as they have ignored his orders to freeze violent activities as part of a cease-fire. These members have also been threatening — and assassinating — rivals who support the cease-fire.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alsadr; bush; iraq; islam; mahdiarmy; mccain; mohammedanism; progress; sadr
Bush, McCain, GOP were right.

Petraeus was right.

The US Troops were right.

The drip, drip, drip of victorious indicators continues out of Iraq.

The liberal "NO"bama media were wrong, wrong, wrong about their "cut and run" cowardice.

1 posted on 08/06/2008 6:24:51 AM PDT by xzins
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To: xzins

I can’t WAIT to READ this on CNNABCCBSMSNBC.


2 posted on 08/06/2008 6:26:26 AM PDT by yobid ("...the crux of the biscuit is the apostrophe")
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To: yobid
I can’t WAIT to READ this on CNNABCCBSMSNBC.

Don't hold your breath!


3 posted on 08/06/2008 6:29:14 AM PDT by Zeppelin (Keep on FReepin' on...)
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To: xzins

Sounds like the Islamic lying we’ve heard so many times before, especially from this particular Jihadist.


4 posted on 08/06/2008 6:29:43 AM PDT by Paladin2 (Huma for co-president! (it ain't over 'til it's over))
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To: xzins

They can make more money in social services - just look at all the parasites we have here in the USA that are doing well in the poverty industry.


5 posted on 08/06/2008 6:29:57 AM PDT by ikka
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To: xzins
...and remake it as a social-services organization...

Yeah, right.

6 posted on 08/06/2008 6:30:33 AM PDT by Recovering Hermit ("A liberal feels a great debt to his fellow man, which debt he proposes to pay off with your money.")
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To: xzins

Bump! Bump! Bump!


7 posted on 08/06/2008 6:31:20 AM PDT by SolidWood (Obamarxislamism, the threat to our Republic!)
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To: xzins

It would be ironic if Sadr got offed by his own supporters.


8 posted on 08/06/2008 6:34:16 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic ("And how can this be? For I am the Kwisatz Haderach! " - Barack Obama)
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To: xzins

“social service organization” - great, another PLO


9 posted on 08/06/2008 6:34:51 AM PDT by LZ_Bayonet (There's Always Something.............And there's always something worse!)
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To: xzins

Someone ping the Obamao’s Campaign....


10 posted on 08/06/2008 6:35:34 AM PDT by padre35 (Conservative in Exile/ Romans 10.10/Eze 11.2)
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To: xzins

A funeral for fatso and his flock would be more fitting.


11 posted on 08/06/2008 6:35:49 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: xzins

Front page headline in yesterday’s Wall Street Journal...


12 posted on 08/06/2008 6:36:31 AM PDT by Redbob ("WWJBD" ="What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: xzins
Anti-American cleric Muqtada al-Sadr intends to disarm his once-dominant Mahdi Army militia and remake it as a social-services organization, The Wall Street Journal reported Tuesday.

Isn't that what the Hamas clain to be?

13 posted on 08/06/2008 6:37:47 AM PDT by Doofer (Carl Cameron Is A Weasel)
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To: LZ_Bayonet; reagan_fanatic; SolidWood

This is a clear indication of Sadr giving up.

There is only one thing to account for it....the surge and its new strategy. They have been successful in just about one year’s time. In that year, Petraeus has proven everything he claimed and some. With the official surge now over, the die is cast in terms of the anti-insurgent strategy.

Those in opposition are being blasted into oblivion.

Who cares about Sard’s “social service agency?” That’s nothing more than a defeated dog rolling over and showing its underbelly.


14 posted on 08/06/2008 6:38:31 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain -- Those denying the War was Necessary Do NOT Support the Troops!)
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To: xzins
They will not remember their own words.......

The doom and gloom crowd, excited over every report of any bomb, a new dead US soldier, or some mishap.... they will simply move onto some new theme, some new topic.

No news is good news, and it's literally a thousand small little baby steps that will bring Iraq to her feet, few to none being reported on. I'm proud of our forces, I'm proud to once have been part of this organization and played my small piece in all this. Those like Obama who acted only out of pure self interest, damaging the war effort along the way so they can score some cheap political capital, they will actually twist their words so they too can take credit for this success for most of us who served in this war, like Hanoi Jane, his name is an insult. You watch, before it's all done you'll have people with names like Schummer, Murtha, Pelosi, Reid and Obama trying to “take credit” for Iraq.

15 posted on 08/06/2008 6:38:49 AM PDT by Red6 (Come and take it.)
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To: padre35

“No”bama was and remains a “cut and run” coward.


16 posted on 08/06/2008 6:39:23 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain -- Those denying the War was Necessary Do NOT Support the Troops!)
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To: xzins
This fat bast*rd murdered his way into power. He took Iran's support in IED attacks on US and coalition troops, and in bombing attacks on markets to kill Iraqi men, women and children indiscriminately.

Now he wants to change is "army" of murderous thugs into a social service organization like Meals on Wheels? What he does now, he could reverse later. This piece of slime needs to receive a half ounce of high-speed Iraqi lead in the middle of his unibrow. THEN and only then, we can be sure that his towel-wearing Mafia won't bother anyone again.

Congressman Billybob

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17 posted on 08/06/2008 6:40:24 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob (Why do taglines sometimes just disappear? www.theacru.org)
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To: Paladin2

Don’t know about that. More than anything, he wants us out of there. If the violence ends and the Iraq Army can provide security then we will leave sooner. I think he realizes he has a better chance at power through politics than he does with guns.


18 posted on 08/06/2008 6:41:48 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy (tHE)
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To: Doofer

See #14

The Lebanese government did not have the means to resist Hamas that the Iraqi government and Maliki have. Malkik knows his existence is tied to grinding Sadr underfoot.


19 posted on 08/06/2008 6:42:05 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain -- Those denying the War was Necessary Do NOT Support the Troops!)
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To: xzins

these people are basically cowards. Show some force, get some wins in your pocket and they fall like a house of cards.


20 posted on 08/06/2008 6:42:12 AM PDT by nikos1121 (The first black president of the US should be at least a "Jackie Robinson.")
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To: xzins

again?


21 posted on 08/06/2008 6:43:30 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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To: Congressman Billybob

It always amazes me how much we agree.

Maliki knows his life is tied to Sadr’s death or demise. Maliki’s military humbled Sadr’s in Basra simply by showing up.

BTW, isn’t Sadr still on vacation in Iran?


22 posted on 08/06/2008 6:45:00 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain -- Those denying the War was Necessary Do NOT Support the Troops!)
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To: yldstrk

This is the latest in Sadr’s capitulations...on the heels of his overwhelming loss and embarrassment in Basra.

Maliki and the Iraqi military is in control.


23 posted on 08/06/2008 6:46:42 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain -- Those denying the War was Necessary Do NOT Support the Troops!)
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To: xzins

Again? This is about the third time...


24 posted on 08/06/2008 6:47:30 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!"--Duncan Hunter)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

see #23


25 posted on 08/06/2008 6:48:25 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain -- Those denying the War was Necessary Do NOT Support the Troops!)
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To: xzins

I think the last remaining member deserted poor mookie, adn the mookster is trying to save face.


26 posted on 08/06/2008 6:57:00 AM PDT by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: camle

I hadn’t thought about that, but he’s been out of country so long, one has to wonder how long you can be gone before your influence dries up.


27 posted on 08/06/2008 6:58:11 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain -- Those denying the War was Necessary Do NOT Support the Troops!)
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To: xzins

Quick—elect Obama before we win!!!


28 posted on 08/06/2008 7:00:51 AM PDT by montag813
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To: montag813

LOL!

That inexperienced, socialistic politician would manage hand it over to the enemy in a matter of weeks.


29 posted on 08/06/2008 7:02:57 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain -- Those denying the War was Necessary Do NOT Support the Troops!)
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To: xzins
Anti-American cleric Muqtada al-Sadr intends to disarm his once-dominant Mahdi Army militia and remake it as a social-services organization, The Wall Street Journal reported Tuesday.

this is such BS.

The model he's using is Hamas/insert any other islamic front group.

This guy needs to have an accident. He's going to be just like Yassar Afafat... blobbering on about peace while "militant factions" within his "peaceful" organization are "troubled" by their impatience.

Yawn, he's a toad for Iran. What we need to do is find men whose family members have been murdered by these guys. Put them in charge and give them the intel to root out the guys that are supporters of Iran.

We don't have to get our hands dirty, but just help whoever is our ally in that sh#t hole.

30 posted on 08/06/2008 7:09:41 AM PDT by Dick Vomer (liberals suck....... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.,)
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To: xzins
The group will focus on education, religion and social justice . . .

So they are to become democrats--promoting the interests of other nations (Iran) over the interests of their own in the name of justice. For these folks, politics is merely war by other means.

31 posted on 08/06/2008 7:15:27 AM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: xzins
Muqtada al-Sadr intends to disarm his once-dominant Mahdi Army militia and remake it as a social-services organization,

What rubbish. The US military chose to disarmed him. His forces went from a high of a rumored 50,000 to 200 after Basra. Totally obliterated. He's as relevant as used toilet paper now.

32 posted on 08/06/2008 7:21:38 AM PDT by T. Jefferson
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To: xzins

i figure that by now it’s just mookie and the goat left... and the goat is leaving


33 posted on 08/06/2008 7:23:10 AM PDT by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: T. Jefferson

Not to be too tough on the Brits, but did the situation in Basra improve because of the surge or because the Brits left?


34 posted on 08/06/2008 7:25:26 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain -- Those denying the War was Necessary Do NOT Support the Troops!)
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To: Paladin2

P2: I agree with you. As much as I’d like to chalk this up as a victory for the good guys, I won’t believe it ‘til I see it. Better yet, the only disarmed Sadr/Mahdi towelhead is a dead Sadr, IMHO.


35 posted on 08/06/2008 7:53:47 AM PDT by JewishRighter
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To: xzins

Makes sense.

Many such movements (ex: Hezbollah and Hamas) eventually end up with a “political wing” and a “military wing”, and there’s little point in expending all of your efforts in going head-to-head with conventionally superior military opponent when you have the option of waiting them out while you build popular support by supplying social services other political entities can’t or won’t. There will always be young men willing to take up arms against “infidels” and “occupiers” and burnish the military wing’s reputation, while the political side enjoys the spoils of political power and need only be marginally less corrupt and inefficient than their political opponents to win and maintain popular support. And of course it’s very convenient to be able to claim that the military wing has “radical” elements that are conducting a military campaign in defiance of the more “pragmatic” political wing.

Unfortunately, it’s very difficult for objective “military defeat” to subvert the political position of such organizations.

Witness for example the fact that Hezbollah and Hamas maintain the political loyalties of large parts of the populations that suffer economic deprivation and sometimes personal disaster as a result of their politics as long as these costs can appear to have been sustained in defiance of their militarily superior “oppressors”.

And because their opponents will always be better armed and supplied, what appears to be outside to the outside world to be a hopeless situation of military inferiority and continual defeat can be presented to the supporters of such groups as “victory” over their adversaries.

IMO, the real test is going to be the ability of whatever government is in power in Baghdad (assuming there’s not been an Islamicist takeover already) to maintain public order and to compete to compete with Islamicist social and political movements to win the loyalty of the population.

I’m not very optimistic about this, for example the Israelis have been able to inflict far more grievous casualties on Hamas’ leadership (and especially the radical leadership in the military wing) that we will ever be able to inflict in Iraq, and the population in Gaza is paying a far higher price, personally and politically, that we are ever likely to inflict on civilian populations in Iraq, meanwhile Hamas remains viable, and in fact appears to be increasing in popularity.


36 posted on 08/06/2008 8:07:26 AM PDT by M. Dodge Thomas
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