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Mexican soldiers enter Arizona, hold agent briefly
AP via SFGate ^ | 8/6/8

Posted on 08/06/2008 12:46:14 PM PDT by SmithL

Tucson, Ariz. (AP) -- Four Mexican soldiers crossed into a remote area of Arizona and briefly held a U.S. Border Patrol agent at gunpoint before realizing where they were and returning to Mexico, U.S. authorities said.

Border Patrol spokeswoman Dove Crawford said the incident early Sunday on the Tohono O'odham Indian Reservation, about 85 miles southwest of Tucson, was in an area where the border likely was marked only with barbed wire.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Mexico
KEYWORDS: aliens; arizona; border; bordersecurity; illegalaliens; immigrantlist; immigration; mexicanmilitary; mexico; soldiers
Practice?
1 posted on 08/06/2008 12:46:16 PM PDT by SmithL
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To: SmithL

AoW!


2 posted on 08/06/2008 12:48:29 PM PDT by SolidWood (Obamarxislamism, the threat to our Republic!)
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To: SmithL

Keep. Building. Fence.


3 posted on 08/06/2008 12:50:08 PM PDT by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: SmithL

In the Middle East, this would be labeled an incursion and troops would be placed on the border immediately to prevent further such acts.

But, alas, this is not the Middle East.... yet.


4 posted on 08/06/2008 12:50:37 PM PDT by nhoward14
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To: SmithL

Any connection to the Medellin execution?


5 posted on 08/06/2008 12:51:00 PM PDT by Brian S. Fitzgerald
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To: All

And Guadalajara George stands by and do nothing....


6 posted on 08/06/2008 12:51:21 PM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (Vladimir Putin is p-o'd because Free Traders decided to subsidize Commie China, not the USSR)
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To: SmithL

Borders? We ain’t got borders. We don’t need borders. I don’t have to honor any STEENKING BORDERS!!


7 posted on 08/06/2008 12:52:04 PM PDT by SlowBoat407 (ANWR would look great in pumps.)
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To: SmithL

sounds like an invasion to me. let’s go get ‘em!


8 posted on 08/06/2008 12:52:12 PM PDT by thefactor (contributing nothing of value to threads since 2001...)
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To: SmithL

In a sane country, that would be considered an act of war.

Of course, Mr. Bush is probably checking with some International Court to find out how he should word our apology.


9 posted on 08/06/2008 12:53:07 PM PDT by WayneS (What the hell is wrong with these people?)
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To: nhoward14
In the Middle East, this would be labeled an incursion and troops would be placed on the border immediately to prevent further such acts.

In the middle east there would already have been a rocket salvo followed by a couple of suicide bombings and a demand for an apology - coming from the side whose soldiers made the incursion!

10 posted on 08/06/2008 12:54:01 PM PDT by SlowBoat407 (ANWR would look great in pumps.)
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To: SmithL

Another account here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2057413/posts


11 posted on 08/06/2008 12:55:34 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: SmithL

“State Department spokesman Gonzalo Gallegos in Washington said the encounter “stemmed from a momentary misunderstanding as to the exact location of the U.S.-Mexican border.””

What a complete crock of crap. The people who work along the border (on BOTH sides) know EXACTLY where it is.


12 posted on 08/06/2008 12:55:38 PM PDT by WayneS (What the hell is wrong with these people?)
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To: thefactor

Shots have been fired across the border in the past. Foreign troops have entered our nation’s borders.

Last time I checked, that was a declaration of war.


13 posted on 08/06/2008 12:57:00 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (Satisfaction was my sin)
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To: SmithL

A real fence would eliminate this problem.


14 posted on 08/06/2008 12:57:39 PM PDT by Jaded (does it really need a sarcasm tag?)
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To: Jaded

The Mexicans know where the border is, they just don’t respect it.


15 posted on 08/06/2008 12:58:50 PM PDT by donna (Don't let the sound of your own wheels drive you crazy.)
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To: WayneS
What a complete crock of crap. The people who work along the border (on BOTH sides) know EXACTLY where it is.

And we could place mines to be sure that all others knew, too.


Just a thought.
16 posted on 08/06/2008 12:59:44 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (Satisfaction was my sin)
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To: DuncanWaring

Thanks


17 posted on 08/06/2008 1:00:38 PM PDT by SmithL (Drill Dammit!)
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To: RandallFlagg
'Punition' time!


18 posted on 08/06/2008 1:01:07 PM PDT by Brian S. Fitzgerald
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To: SmithL

Is there anyone in Washington D.C.? Hello?


19 posted on 08/06/2008 1:01:20 PM PDT by Coffee200am ("We should all be living in mud huts and riding bicycles to avoid killing the polar bears..."/s)
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To: SmithL

40 such “incidents” this fiscal year?

That is an absolute outrage, and it’s long past time to put armed troops on the border and relegate the under gunned and under staffed Border Patrol to conducting formal arrests, and deportations of those caught by the military.


20 posted on 08/06/2008 1:02:47 PM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (Democrats: Supporting America's enemies since 1824)
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To: TigersEye

ping & GRRR!


21 posted on 08/06/2008 1:03:23 PM PDT by pandoraou812 (Don't play leapfrog with a unicorn! ...........^............)
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To: SmithL
State Department spokesman Gonzalo Gallegos in Washington said the encounter "stemmed from a momentary misunderstanding as to the exact location of the U.S.-Mexican border."

Crawford said there have been about 40 similar incursions along the entire border this fiscal year.

And there are STILL people at the highest levels of government who think we don't need a wall!!??

Build it, and build it now across the entire length of the US-Mexico border.

22 posted on 08/06/2008 1:03:53 PM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: RandallFlagg

Excellent idea!


23 posted on 08/06/2008 1:08:12 PM PDT by WayneS (What the hell is wrong with these people?)
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To: SmithL

Wonder how many illegals came in while the agent was held up?


24 posted on 08/06/2008 1:08:50 PM PDT by MeSpikeLibs (Global Warming = Global BS)
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To: MeSpikeLibs

“Wonder how many illegals came in while the agent was held up?”

That’s exactly what they were doing, being decoys for a drug or illegal shipment.


25 posted on 08/06/2008 1:13:39 PM PDT by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: wolfcreek

See, the Gov doesn’t care about us!

But they’ll scramble a SWAT team loaded with combat tactical gear and have them go after some pencil-neck geek white guy who’s praticing Mormonism 1800’s style.

They won’t dare use that tricked out combat gear against gangstas and border incursions.


26 posted on 08/06/2008 1:28:02 PM PDT by Transformers
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To: RandallFlagg

Agreed.

On another thread on this topic, I posted the following:

While not exactly operating under orders from Mexico City, the Mexican Army is most certainly acting under the direction and control of the Mexican military leadership—the leadership that is bought and paid for by the drug cartels.
These drug cartels have been using the Mexican Army as armed escort for many years now. They do this to protect the drug shipment.

In past, if the drug smuggler encountered the Border Patrol or other US law enforcement agencies, they would drop their load and run south. Now, however, with the Mexican military as escort, all they do is turn around and drive back to Mexico-—with their drug load. The Mexican military provides rear-guard action to protect the shipment.

What is different in this case, and not really reported, is the Mexican military tried to abduct the Border Patrol Agent, take him back into Mexico.

Why?

Here’s my thought on that: Along that area of border are buried and hidden sensors that alert the Border Patrol to the presence of people or vehicles making their way illegally north. The Mexican military wanted to abduct this agent and take him south to extract the location of the sensors. Of course, we all know how they would extract that information and what they would do with the agent after they got that information.


27 posted on 08/06/2008 1:29:30 PM PDT by Hulka
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To: wolfcreek

That is exactly what they were doing. Those scum-bags knew exactly where they were. I wish we had a President that would stand up to Mexico.


28 posted on 08/06/2008 1:30:18 PM PDT by MeSpikeLibs (Global Warming = Global BS)
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To: SmithL

See?

I keep saying napalm, napalm, napalm. Now some of
our 21 CENTURY do-gooders keep saying napalm is outdated.
But let’s see how a bunch of members of the Mexican army
running around, screaming and slapping themselves while
on fire would prevent this sort of incursion.


29 posted on 08/06/2008 1:30:39 PM PDT by righttackle44 (a)
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To: SmithL

Make me President. I’d declare every county on the Mexican border under military jurisdiction. I’d set up fire and command centers along the border. Anyone entering the country would be shot on sight. Then I’d take one Arizona county at a time and bring in every INS agent I could find to start arresting and deporting illegals. I’d set up open-air courts that would run 24/7. I’d declare martial law and extradite them within minutes of conviction. Then move on to the next county. I would confiscate all their material possessions and investments in the United States, including cars, cash, and homes. If Mexico raised a protest I’d declare a state of military conflict and national security. You want to get serious about this or just let them take over?


30 posted on 08/06/2008 1:35:02 PM PDT by Doc Savage ("Are you saying Jesus can't hit a curve ball? - Harris to Cerrano - Major League)
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To: Doc Savage

Now that’s a good policy right there.


31 posted on 08/06/2008 1:44:45 PM PDT by Transformers
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To: SmithL

Whoopsies!


32 posted on 08/06/2008 1:53:26 PM PDT by autumnraine
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To: WayneS

“We’re sorry! We forgot where our country is”


33 posted on 08/06/2008 1:55:28 PM PDT by autumnraine
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To: Hulka
Here’s my thought on that: Along that area of border are buried and hidden sensors that alert the Border Patrol to the presence of people or vehicles making their way illegally north. The Mexican military wanted to abduct this agent and take him south to extract the location of the sensors. Of course, we all know how they would extract that information and what they would do with the agent after they got that information.

Each BP Agent has a list in his truck of the assigned number, and exact location of all the sensors in the area. It would be much simpler, and more exact to grab the list, and take it back to Mexico. I've seen the lists, and see agents using them regularly.

34 posted on 08/06/2008 1:57:10 PM PDT by c-b 1 (Reporting from behind enemy lines, in occupied AZTLAN.)
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To: Doc Savage

I’d vote for you.

Unfortunately, the rest of America is going to vote for World Citizen Obama or Juan McAmnesty this November.

We are so boned.


35 posted on 08/06/2008 2:04:05 PM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: thefactor

Gulf of Chiptole incident.


36 posted on 08/06/2008 2:41:52 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: SmithL
Has Bush issued an apology to mexico, yet?
37 posted on 08/06/2008 2:59:28 PM PDT by isrul (Help make every day, "Disrespect a muzzie day.")
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To: c-b 1

Check your Freepmail, please.


38 posted on 08/06/2008 4:30:35 PM PDT by Hulka
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To: 3AngelaD

the fence will make a good neighbor


39 posted on 08/06/2008 4:39:11 PM PDT by elpadre (nation)
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To: SmithL; Admin Moderator

I take it AP has relented on their extortion-by-the-word scheme?


40 posted on 08/06/2008 7:19:07 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Drill Here! Drill Now! Pay Less! Sign the petition at http://www.americansolutions.com/)
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To: SmithL

Testing the waters?


41 posted on 08/07/2008 5:49:35 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Jaded

“A real fence would eliminate this problem.”

Automatic weapons firing south would also have an “impact”.


42 posted on 08/07/2008 11:06:08 AM PDT by Towed_Jumper (Stephen Hopkins: Founding Father who had Cerebral Palsy.."My hand trembles, my heart does not.")
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To: Granny Rudd
Video: Mexican Soldiers Cross the Border Into America
43 posted on 08/07/2008 11:18:22 AM PDT by SmithL (Drill Dammit!)
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To: Towed_Jumper

LOL. urbad


44 posted on 08/07/2008 12:14:28 PM PDT by Jaded (does it really need a sarcasm tag?)
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To: SmithL

Sounds like an INTERNATIONAL INCIDENT to me. Oh wait, that only happens when the US defends its borders.


45 posted on 08/07/2008 12:17:03 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: WayneS
Of course, Mr. Bush is probably checking with some International Court to find out how he should word our apology.

Though I voted for Bush twice, it was almost a year ago now that I stopped listening to him, when I was certain that he was no longer a servant of the American people, if he ever really was, but a sockpuppet to someone unbeknownst to his rank and file supporters.

46 posted on 08/07/2008 3:32:47 PM PDT by E. Cartman (Would you want your surgeon graduating at the bottom 1% of his class?)
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