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Beijing Olympics: Flags showing Cross of St George, Saltire or Welsh dragon banned
The Telegraph (U.K.) ^ | August 6, 2008 | Gordon Rayner,

Posted on 08/06/2008 3:26:57 PM PDT by Stoat

Draconian rules imposed by the Chinese authorities mean that flags of any non-competing nation are likely to be confiscated from fans, who could be barred from venues if they refuse to comply. Athletes could even be disqualified from competing if they break the rules.

Because Scotland, Wales, England and Northern Ireland are not individually represented at the games, only the Union Flag of Great Britain will be allowed inside the stadiums.

The regulation is widely believed to be aimed at preventing supporters of an independent Tibet from making political statements by waving its flag, but it will be enforced across the board.

Fans of British tennis star Andy Murray, who often wave Saltires from the stands, and cyclist Geraint Thomas, who is Welsh, are among those who will be affected.

Mr Thomas said: "It would be great to do a lap of honour draped in the Welsh flag if I win a gold medal, and I'm very disappointed if this rule means that would not be possible."

MPs have urged Gordon Brown to demand the Chinese scrap the ruling, which they say is a further example of China's human rights abuses.

Hugh Robertson, the shadow sports minister, said: "The right to wave your national flag has always been a central part of the spectator experience at every Olympic games. To see it banned now for internal political reasons contradicts an essential part of the Olympic experience and freedom of expression."

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: 2008olympics; britain; china; crossofstgeorge; dragon; england; flag; flagban; flags; greatbritain; ireland; northernireland; olympics; saltire; scotland; scotlant; stgeorge; stgeorgescross; uk; unitedkingdom; wales; welshdragon
My apologies for the heavily-edited post....this was done in order to remain in compliance with Free Republic posting rules pertaining to articles from the UK Telegraph....please click on the article link to read the full story.

Also:

Banning the Dragon is an affront to freedom - WalesOnline

Welsh dragon and St George's cross barred from Olympics as Chinese ban 'propaganda' flags Mail Online

Welsh flag banned from the Olympics - Daily Post North Wales

No chance of Red Dragon flying at Olympics - WalesOnline

Scots cross over Olympic Saltire ban - Scotsman.com News

BBC NEWS Scotland Tayside and Central Anger over Beijing Saltire 'ban'

Lee McConnell with a Saltire
Lee McConnell will be part of Team GB in Beijing

UK flags banned at the Olympics The Sun News

Ruled out ... supporter

Ruled out ... supporter

 


1 posted on 08/06/2008 3:26:57 PM PDT by Stoat
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To: the scotsman; Scotsman will be Free

 

YouTube - Scotland the Brave

2 posted on 08/06/2008 3:27:33 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2012: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Stoat

If it’s not Scottish, it’s crap!


3 posted on 08/06/2008 3:29:25 PM PDT by lormand
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To: Stoat
Draconian rules imposed by the Chinese authorities...

I'm shocked!

4 posted on 08/06/2008 3:30:09 PM PDT by batter (Oxymoron: An Obama bumper sticker on an SUV)
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To: batter
Draconian rules imposed by the Chinese authorities...

I'm shocked!

They certainly aren't showcasing a 'new, open China' are they?

5 posted on 08/06/2008 3:32:20 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2012: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Stoat

who cares...none of the flags will be visible through the smog.


6 posted on 08/06/2008 3:34:55 PM PDT by spokeshave (Hey GOP...NO money till border closed and criminal illegals deported and the drilling starts.)
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To: Stoat

I doubt anyone really, seriously believed they would be “open” for the Olympics. Oh well, this is one Olympics I’m not going to watch (besides, I’ve never been into the summer Olympics, anyway).


7 posted on 08/06/2008 3:35:23 PM PDT by batter (Oxymoron: An Obama bumper sticker on an SUV)
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To: manc; Mercia; snugs; agere_contra; Mac1

8 posted on 08/06/2008 3:37:09 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2012: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Stoat

Alabama State Flag Not Allowed.


9 posted on 08/06/2008 3:38:15 PM PDT by silentreignofheroes (Old Dogs and Children,and Watermelon Wine.)
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To: lormand
if it's crap, Scots will eat it!

10 posted on 08/06/2008 3:38:40 PM PDT by ari-freedom (Obamuh uh uh uh uh uh uh ummmmmm)
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To: Stoat
So, the communist autocrats are acting like communist autocrats.

Gee, what a surprise. I'm sure Rogge is shocked.

11 posted on 08/06/2008 3:39:19 PM PDT by colorado tanker (Number nine, number nine, number nine . . .)
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To: Stoat
We should let our athletes compete. It is not their fault that the International Olympic Committee is pandering to the Chinese, and that the Chinese actions are so obviously unacceptable.

However, our politicians, especially our President should simply refuse to attend the Olympics. The President should not only skip the opening ceremony, but the entire games, and we should have no political envoy to the Olympic games.

If individual Americans want to attend the games that is their choice. However, our government needs to make a clear statement that China's thuggish tactics are unacceptable.

12 posted on 08/06/2008 3:42:02 PM PDT by untrained skeptic
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To: Stoat
Draconian rules imposed by the Chinese authorities

Black power salutes welcome as statements against oppressive U.S. racist laws and in support of the Stalinist Rat Party (formerly the traditional, patriotic Democratic Party).

13 posted on 08/06/2008 3:42:53 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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Fans of British tennis star Andy Murray, who often wave Saltires from the stands, and cyclist Geraint Thomas, who is Welsh, are among those who will be affected.

Mr Thomas said: "It would be great to do a lap of honour draped in the Welsh flag if I win a gold medal, and I'm very disappointed if this rule means that would not be possible."

 


14 posted on 08/06/2008 3:46:54 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2012: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Stoat

OK, buy Chinese flags and burn them.


15 posted on 08/06/2008 3:49:00 PM PDT by cookcounty (Obama, the last man to figure out the Surge ---Except for Nevada's Hopeless Harry)
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To: Stoat

I’ve got no sympathy. They were selected to represent the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, not any of it’s constituent nations. They can save it for the Commonwealth games.
It’s like an American athelete who is supposed to be representing his country wrapping himself in his state’s flag rather than the stars and stripes....


16 posted on 08/06/2008 3:51:13 PM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: cookcounty

How was it China was picked for the Olympics anyway?


17 posted on 08/06/2008 3:53:24 PM PDT by DonaldC
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To: Stoat
I guess that puts the halt to HK Edgerton's trip to Beijing for the Olympics.
18 posted on 08/06/2008 3:54:06 PM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan

All I know is that we’d better damn well not dip our flag during the Opening Ceremonies.


19 posted on 08/06/2008 3:55:15 PM PDT by dfwgator ( This tag blank until football season.)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

Actually Carlos and Smith were banned from the games by the IOC and sent home. One of them was on the 4x100 relay and was dropped.


20 posted on 08/06/2008 3:55:36 PM PDT by sharkhawk (Here come the Hawks)
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To: Stoat

Beijing is certainly doing everything they need to ensure that they NEVER get to host the Olympics again.


21 posted on 08/06/2008 3:56:47 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (A citizen using a weapon to shoot a criminal is the ultimate act of independence from government.)
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To: Stoat

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wRRY8eDMSY


22 posted on 08/06/2008 3:58:26 PM PDT by mware (F-R-E-E. That spells free. freerepublic.com baby)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

HK Edgerton is a Man.


23 posted on 08/06/2008 3:58:32 PM PDT by silentreignofheroes (Old Dogs and Children,and Watermelon Wine.)
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To: Stoat

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5bxT-j9UOQ


24 posted on 08/06/2008 4:02:24 PM PDT by mware (F-R-E-E. That spells free. freerepublic.com baby)
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To: Stoat

Comment from link,

“This is nothing to do with China’s policies and is just another bald attempt to knock the home nation. I attended the Atlanta olympics with my Welsh flag and was made to put it down on every occasion that I tried to fly it because it was not a flag of a competing nation. ~ Tim Davies”

Kind of says it all about the msm.


25 posted on 08/06/2008 4:02:29 PM PDT by cmdjing
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To: cmdjing
 

Kind of says it all about the msm.

Apparently such rules have been applied unevenly in previous Olympics:

No chance of Red Dragon flying at Olympics - WalesOnline

Tory Shadow Sports Minister Paul Davies said: “This has serious implications for freedom of expression and the rights of supporters and athletes to celebrate their success.

“Welsh medal winning athletes and their supporters have been able to wave the Welsh flag at previous Olympics without the threat of having them confiscated.


26 posted on 08/06/2008 4:23:32 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2012: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Stoat

The 2008 Chinese are about as much fun as the 1936 Germans.


27 posted on 08/06/2008 4:31:53 PM PDT by 6SJ7
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To: 6SJ7

EFF the commie bustards!!!


28 posted on 08/06/2008 4:36:43 PM PDT by GRRRRR (2008- A Year That Will Live in Infamy...)
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To: 6SJ7
The 2008 Chinese are about as much fun as the 1936 Germans.

Shameful picture of England squad giving Nazi salute still haunts British sport. Why, 70 years later, do we still suck up to dictators Mail Online


29 posted on 08/06/2008 4:41:12 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2012: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Stoat

I guess this one is right out then. It's Taiwan's btw.

30 posted on 08/06/2008 4:47:16 PM PDT by xp38
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To: xp38

The other big no no flag....Tibet's

31 posted on 08/06/2008 4:53:33 PM PDT by xp38
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan
I disagree these are individual countries which is different to States and it has always been a tradition to wave your national flag as well as the Union Flag as the athlete is seen to be representing his country by competing for the United Kingdom.
32 posted on 08/06/2008 8:02:51 PM PDT by snugs ((An English Cheney Chick - Big Time))
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To: Tax-chick
Because Scotland, Wales, England and Northern Ireland are not individually represented at the games, only the Union Flag of Great Britain will be allowed inside the stadiums.

Northern Ireland flags issue - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

33 posted on 08/06/2008 10:36:57 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2012: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: batter
I doubt anyone really, seriously believed they would be “open” for the Olympics.

Agreed.

Oh well, this is one Olympics I’m not going to watch (besides, I’ve never been into the summer Olympics, anyway).

Same for myself. and I'm seeing similar sentiments almost universally expressed throughout the reader comment areas in the linked and related articles.  Many cite their revulsion over the iron commie bootheel being brought down upon the necks of people who are merely wanting to have a friendly sporting competition but are instead treated with what many consider to be a far cry from friendliness on the part of their hosts.

34 posted on 08/06/2008 10:50:58 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2012: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: snugs

These people are talking about taking a victory lap wrapped in their constituent nation’s flag. They are not there to represent Wales, or England, or Scotland, or whatever. They’re their to represent Great Britain. They can represent their constituent nation at the Commonwealth games....


35 posted on 08/07/2008 12:56:38 AM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: Stoat; Colosis; Black Line; Cucullain; SomeguyfromIreland; Youngblood; Fergal; Cian; col kurz; ...

Something vaguely related to Ireland ping!


36 posted on 08/07/2008 5:35:22 AM PDT by Tax-chick (When life gives you habaneros, make hot sauce!)
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To: Stoat

Most of our athletes are going to be barely competing anyway, I wouldn’t bother making the trip really lads...

But yes, a little strict!


37 posted on 08/07/2008 7:03:47 AM PDT by Mercia
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To: Stoat

Well, considering the leftist, pro-Communist orientation of Scots and Welsh nationalists, this has got to hurt.


38 posted on 08/07/2008 7:15:41 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator ('Eykhah yashevah vadad ha`ir rabbati `am, hayetah ke'almanah . . .)
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To: All

These Olympics are going to be a PR nightmare for Chinese communist propaganda.

I expect a big event to happen early in the games if not during the Opening Ceremonies Friday.

These games are going to drive home the point that despite some economic freedoms, China is still a ruthless despotic boot stomping police state, where human political rights and basic human rights are denied openly.

Despite open economic trade, China is not only still an enemy of the world but a hostile enemy of their own people.


39 posted on 08/07/2008 7:32:19 AM PDT by rbmillerjr ("bigger government means constricting freedom"....................RWR)
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