Skip to comments.Erin Brockovich: Gardasil (the case against Merck's HPV vaccine)
Posted on 08/07/2008 7:13:47 AM PDT by weegee
We have been spending our days getting all our ducks armed for bear and in a row--all of our anti-Gardasil ducks, that is. From checking my various areas on the internet, to finding moderators to listening to the tragic and painful stories of victims of the Gardasil vaccine, it has been a very busy time for me and my team.
Gardasil, as you should know by now, is an HPV vaccine sold by Merc, a vaccine with a flawed marketing campaign targeting young girls. The premise is that the vaccine will protect young girls from cervical cancer, as well as a couple of varieties of HPV. But the vaccine is NOT a cancer preventative, and it has not been thoroughly tested. Not only does Gardasil not protect everyone, it does not prevent all types of cervical cancer. According to current science, there are fifteen types of HPV associated with cervical cancer but Gardasil only counters HPV types 16 and 18. The vaccine requires three doses to start and scientists don't even know how frequently boosters will be needed. They don't know because they did not adequately research this before putting the vaccine out on the market using our young girls as guinea pigs.
Merc was even pushing to have this untried vaccine REQUIRED by states. Governer Perry of Texas--who bypassed the state legislation with an executive order--has ties to Merck. Mike Toomey, Perrys former chief of staff is one of the drug companys three lobbyists in Texas. The governor also received $6,000 from Mercks political action committee during his re-election campaign. "Merck is bankrolling efforts to pass state laws across the country mandating Gardasil for girls as young as 11 or 12." As a mother, should I have to sign a waver to protect my daughter from having a potentially dangerous vaccine forced on her?
What makes this vaccine so terrible? It's not just the fear that some parents have that administering a vaccine against stds to nine year olds will encourage sexual activity. The concern is based on much more concrete issues than that. 7195 of them, in fact.
The Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) now has 7195 individual adverse reactions listed--and as it is a database not everyone knows about, not all of the adverse reactions are being reported. The Centers for Disease Control report over 9,000 adverse reactions for Gardasil. There is a rising total of deaths connected with the administration of this vaccine; as well as have been reports of seizure activity, tingling, numbness and loss of sensation in the fingers and limbs. There is serious question about girls initially having short-term health problems associated with getting this vaccine that could turn into long-term neurological or immune system disorders; and there is serious question about administering this vaccine at the same time as others.
Gardasil is a vaccine developed by Merck to prevent Human Papilloma Virus (HPV). HPV is known to cause cervical cancer. Although Merck has claimed that Gardasil has no significant side effects, reports filed with the FDA suggest otherwise.
The FDA Vaccine Adverse Effect Reporting System has more than 8,000 incidents associated with Gardasil. The most serious complications reported include death and the development of blood clots.
If you or a loved suffered a serious adverse event, such as death, disability or blood clot following the administration of Gardasil, please contact me email@example.com. I will have one of our staff of experienced attorneys review your claim to advise you about your rights.
While I have reservations about Gardasil, I know that Erin Brockovich is just another scam artist.
You’ve got 28 bullets coming at you. Are you really better off if you can stop one of them?
Good article. Governor Perry managed to piss off a lot of Republicans and Conservatives in Texas when he tried to shove it down Texans’ throats, even after his ties to the company were already publicized.
She may or may not be, but Merck needs to have their dirty laundry aired. They’ve bought off a lot of politicians.
Actually, it is spelled "Merck".
If you are going to sue somebody for umpty-diddly dollars, the first step is to spell their name right.
But, but Hollyweird says she is a heroine. Beautiful too.
After all she “stood up” to a greedy, exploitative American corporation run by hateful, white Christian males.
And what, after all, is more important than that?
Is there a vaccine against hybridized metaphors?
Spell check is your friend. Fix Merc and waver; please.
Do you have any evidence which shows that anything said in this article is untrue?
I don’t understand how the FTC is even allowing this stuff to be marketed the way it is.
It is shown to prevent HPV (genetal warts) at least certain strains... and yes, genital warts can lead to cervical cancer, but not always.
So the logic is, prevent HPV, you prevent cancer, but that’s a secondary, not what the vaccine actually does, so its marketing campaign seems disingenuous from the get go.
Uh, I don’t think the religion of the PG&E executives had anything to do with them poisoning people and trying to cover it up.
I think that if a vaccine needs to be advertised on TV, then it's likely not a very good vaccine.
I couldn’t believe that she spelled it wrong, so I checked the link..and she did. I’m with you...if you’re going to sue the pants off of them, at least have the courtesy of spelling the name right.
Her posting had both spellings in it (Merck and Merc).
The enemy of my enemy is not my friend but I opposed the mandatory use of this vaccine. And I never heard why only the girls were getting it when guys get cancer from HPV too.
Also there will be women in this world who would not have the HPV vaccination and the guys would still be carriers.
I thought at the time that it had to be so that this vaccination could be tabled as a “women’s issue”.
Holy DES, Batman, why would anyone foist a drug on pre-pubsecent girls with no clue as to the reproductive impact even 10 years down the road.
Gov Perry is a disappointment just like his good friend Bush. Government Mandatory positions are not conservative way of thinking.
And of course, there are even worse things girls can get from unprotected intercourse. I worry about these things that give kids a false sense of security. I remember the looks on some of my students’ faces when I told them that birth control pills did not protect them from STDs.
Nothing quite like starting off your rant by butchering metaphors.
I asked the same question (why boys don’t get it) and the only info I could find said just that it had not been tested on boys. Interestingly, boys CAN get cancer from HPV as well, altho it’s not as common. One would think that if something really worked, and the goal was to get rid of the disease they would have targeted both boys and girls and tested the drug for both.
She is representing lawyers who are trolling for business. The onus is on HER to prove her statements, some of which are conjectures.
As I mentioned, I do have reservations about Gardasil, but Brockovich is just another scam artist.
Uh, of course not. If anything the presence of true Christianity would have made the hugely overblown alleged crime, even less likely to occur.
But then, of course, that is NOT what I said.
The Christainity comment had to do with “uh”, Hollywood’s proclivity for hammering on Christians or the perceived presence of Christianity. In their smarmy condescension, the not-so-subtle implication is that it is the WCM that is pulling the strings behind all-evil, all-the-time American corporations.
Yep - PG&E was totally in the wrong in places like Hinckley and Kettleman.
As a father of a daughter, I don’t worry that giving a girl a vaccine for a skin disease is promoting promiscuity. I fail to understand that argument myself, as of the women I know who have admitted to getting an STD, very few would fall into the promiscuous department. The vast majority got them from long partners that had dubious pasts they did not know about, or who were running around on them without their knowledge (and yes, some of them were married).
I would hate for my daughter to have to live with Genital Warts, and the long term higher risk of cervical cancer if it were something that could be potentially avoided.
Also, knowing that HPV is a SKIN disease, and incredibly common not simply an STD is another fact that most are unaware of. Provided the infection does not get onto the mucous membranes, generally most folks never even know they have it and it goes away on its own. You don’t have to have intercourse to get HPV infections, obviously for it to infect the membranes it would have to be exposed, but that doesn’t mean its all from intercourse etc.
I certainly would not give this to a 9 year old, and would tell anyone who wanted to force me to to get bent. I am concerned with the adverse reactions and long term risks as well, which are not known at this point.
Not to worry, if America’s women are unable to breed, we’ll just get more immigrants with anchor babies to make up the stop loss.
“She may or may not be, but Merck needs to have their dirty laundry aired. Theyve bought off a lot of politicians”
Excellent point, which is why the government should not be in the business of business. Free market and responsible tort are the solutions. Without government intervention, recon there being cures (not treatment) for cancer, diabetes, the common cold, and a host of other maladies.
And where are the rocket cars?!? We were supposed to have rocket cars by now!!!
This wasn’t even approved by the legislature, it came down as gubernatorial fiat.
No your comment brought religion into the conversation when it was never brought in by anyone but yourself.
Hollywood never portrayed the executives at PG&E as bible thumpers or even spoke of their religion. You are the one projecting this in where it wasn’t relevant.
I am no fan of Hollywood, and will not defend it for a lot of things, but you, not they are the ones bring religion bashing into this.
The facts of the case, and the movie it was based off of, like it or not are about a corporation who knowingly poisoned innocent people and then tried to cover it up. That’s wrong, period. Had nothing to do with white guys or black guys, or christians or athiests.
There is pleanty of christian bashing that goes on, but these events nor this movie had anything to do with this.. you are the one attempting to generate outrage over something that in this instance has nothing to do with the topic.
As to Corporations, you need to stop worshiping markets... Corporations are AMMORAL, their is no intrinsic morality in a legal construct like a corporation than their is in a dollar bill. Like it or not, Corporations do indeed do evil things... Does every corporation? No, but when they do wrong and it is exposed they should be condemned for it.
You don’t have to like hollywood, or Ms. Brockovich, but this isn’t a case of a work of fiction for propoganda purposes against christianity or corporations, at its core and yes artistic license is always taken when a film is made, but this matter was a case of a corporation indeed doing grotesque wrong.
Here is an undeniable fact of the world, and I wish people on both the left and the right would absorb this...
Governments are not gods, and Markets are not gods, anyone who advocates blind faith in either is a complete fool.
Men can get testicular cancer as well as throat cancer from HPV.
A decade or so ago I was at a scientific conference where this bimbo was invited as a “motivational” speaker. At the end of her talk she opened her blouse and shook her bra-enclosed boobs at the audience. Someone like that is difficult to take seriously.
>> Do you have any evidence which shows that anything said in this article is untrue? <<
I certainly don’t spot anything in the article which is untrue. But as evil as I Commandant Perry’s mandate is, Merck’s ads state that they do not Gardasil does not treat cancer, and does not prevent all forms of HPV which cause cancer. And not in some mumbled jumble of legalese, but in very clearly spoken assertions. Brockovitch’s article makes it seem like they’ve exposed some sort of cover-up.
Just another scumbag lawyer in search of that big class-action payoff.
The scam worked on PG&E, why not on Merck?
Merck didn’t sell it that way but the connected figures in govenment pushed it as a “fix” and wanted it to be mandatory (it is not a cure all and has numerous side effects; it is a risky proposition to taint our entire female population before they have even reached their child bearing years).
Maybe she was trying to wake up a snoozing audience.
>> Does every corporation? No, but when they do wrong and it is exposed they should be condemned for it. <<
In fact, when evil is profitable, and government can effectively legislate against such things, it is critical that the evil-doers be punished, or else the market will ensure that the evil-doers drive the more moral ones out of business. Case in point: hiring illegal aliens.
1. Effective legislation is possible far less often than liberals pretend it is.
2. Government must be allow market forces to correct evil when evil is not inherently profitable. For instance, if discrimination is truly racist, fair-minded companies will have an enriched talent pool and will be more successful than racist companies. (I call this the Jackie Robinson rule.)
3. I mean to make no assertions as to the validity of Erin Brockovich’s claims against PG&E (but the movie was definitely hostile towards Christian modesty).
It was clear from my experience with teens that they believed many things that were not true. They are, after all, not adults, and don’t think like adults (and lots of adults also believe untrue things). As I said, many believed that birth control pills also protected them from STDs. I did not say it would make them more have more sex, my concern is that it is marketed to prevent an STD that causes cancer—are the girls getting it being educated that that is the ONLY thing it prevents?
And, how do you know that all of the women you’ve known who got an STD were not promiscuous? (and what’s your definition of promiscious?). You would have to know they were telling you the truth—I’m generally dubious when someone shares their sexual history with me, as most people try to make it what they think you would accept. Many teens are having lots of sex. Believe it.
I agree. I am generally very conservative about these things, and will not give my daughter birth control pills, however I don’t have a problem with the idea behind this vaccine. I just googled HPV, and supposedly 50% of people who are sexually active contract HPV. It seems to me it would be quite easy even for a monogamous married woman to contract it from her husband if he had at least one other partner before her. I want more testing on long term side effects before I would consider vaccinating a child, but I think the idea behind it is sound.
Actually, spell check is most likely the problem, as both of those are valid dictionary words that probably slipped past the filter.
This vaccine being shoved down young girls throats is the same as distributing condoms in school. The problem is the perpetuation of ignorance. You can’t get pregnant if you use a condom. You can’t get HPV if you get the vaccine. Nowhere in either of these progressive mantras is abstinence mentioned. The only way not to get pregnant is not to have sex. The only way not to get HPV is not to have sex.
The behavior is being subversively promoted. This time, it’s big pharma who is doing the promoting, not Planned Parenthood.
I’m pretty sure they can get penile cancer as well (it’s uncommon tho) and of course, they are passing it along to girls (and other boys as well).
And women can pass it on to their babies. I met a woman at a hospital, waiting for my husband to have surgery a number of years ago. Her grandaughter (high school age) was having her umpteenth surgery to remove growths that closed up her throat. She got HPV from her mom during birth. So, this IS a scourge, but I think the vaccine may give a false sense of security since it apparently doesn’t cover all strains. Behaviors are what need to be dealt with and as long as our culture and media suggest that it’s normal and fun and a great idea to have sex with anyone who stands still long enough, we’ll have these issues.
There were relatively few side effects of vaccination. The proportion of subjects who reported one or more injection-site adverse events was higher in the vaccine group than in the placebo group (84.4% vs. 77.9%), with the most common event being injection-site pain (risk difference, 6.5 percentage points; 95% CI, 1.4 to 11.7) (Table 4). One subject in the placebo group discontinued participation owing to a serious injection-related adverse event (hypersensitivity). The proportions of women reporting serious adverse events were similar in the two treatment groups. (All systemic and serious adverse events, categorized by organ system and treatment group, are provided in Tables 5 and 6 of the Supplementary Appendix.) Within these categories, there were nominally significant differences in the percentages of subjects in the vaccine group and the placebo group who reported seasonal allergies (10 in the vaccine group and 2 in the placebo group [risk difference, 1.8; 95% CI, 0.3 to 3.7]) and neck pain (2 in the vaccine group and 10 in the placebo group [risk difference, 1.8; 95% CI, 3.7 to 0.3]). No multiplicity adjustments were made for these comparisons. Adverse-event profiles were generally similar for women with and without antibodies to one or more of the vaccine-related HPV types at enrollment.
I have always had a big problem with commercials. Never will a commercial ‘get’ me to run out and buy a product, but one ‘bad’ commercial WILL get me to avoid... A whole ‘campaign’ will cause me to do a house-hold boycott...
I hate being treated like I’m stupid. I use my common sense and analize commercials on a daily basis (yes- I watch WAY too much TV). There’s way too much ‘stupid man’(especially WHITE men), ‘stupid parents’, ‘green everything’, ‘buy our stuff and you’re smart - don’t and you’re fat, ugly, stupid and dirty’... The most ‘cool’ people are kids and afro-american couples (unless it’s men vs women then he gets made fun of too)
I have way too much time on my hands...
THESE comercials have bugged me -’Sex Ed’ during the day...
The first commercials weren’t bad. Grown women looking into the camera and saying ‘WOW - cancer caused by a VIRUS!?” OK... I didn’t know that. Interesting. Then I figured out what they meant. Too many sexual partners and you’ll never know which one ‘slipped’ the bug to you and BAM! You got cancer... hum... Don’t think I’ll have to worry about that...
Then they lost me... FOREVER. Way too young girls in the midst of their barely teen activities saying ‘I’m gonna get the shot so I don’t get cancer when I start having casual sex with the long string of my many, many sex-partners...’
AW!!! Planned Parenthood and don’t tell the ‘stupid parents’ about your abortion(s)! - ‘It’s none of their business!’
OK -they tried to make it better this last go ‘round. ‘Mom’ is so-o-o concerned that she comes into the room where ‘sweet-innocent’ is doing her thing and tells the camera how much she loves her baby and will protect her by ‘getting’ her the shot.
What happened? The powers-to-be find out that it isn’t like getting that ‘all-protected and mighty abortion’ and more like -I don’t know- say getting her ears pierced or taking an asprin? She ‘has’ to have Mom’s permission and signature on the forms... Humerous, if it didn’t make me sick.
Like I said, the commercials lost me and the facts of them cramming this thing down the throats of little girls with-out enough testing just didn’t help...
I have no dillusions about teens having sex. However, your presumption that only the promiscous get STD’s is just as gross a mischaracterization as you claim the teens are falling for with HPV vaccine marketing.
You can be as monogomous as you like, if your partner is not doing the same, you are at risk, and sadly like it or not, folks do cheat, and lie.
This is a hard choice for the moonbats.
Condoms in schools was about advancing the sex positive agenda, not about preventing disease or pregnancy.
It forever shifted the argument of IF teens should be having sex to WHEN.
The proponents of sex positive teaching seek to end all moral judgments over all sexual pairings regardless of sex, age, relation, marital status, number, or species of partner(s). They seek sexual pleasure as a birthright that should be enjoyed by everyone at every age and that, like homosexual desires, are wrong to supress. They oppose abstinence not because “it doesn’t work” (although they will claim that) but because they find it to be an unhealthy supression of sexual desires (and you can find them making that statement). positive.org runs a “just say yes” campaign aimed at teens (with the slogan that there are too many stuffy people telling you to say no).
Some folks just put politics in front of anything. HPV is an insanely common disease, and yes the vaccine doesn’t guard against all, and yes, HPV is not the only way cervical cancers happen.
HPV is a skin disease, that’s it.. when certain forms of it infect the membranes, it can cause warts, and the long term risk of cervical cancer that comes with it. Also, there is belief that the same HPV’s may be behind throat cancers, as folks exposed in the mouth can also be infected.
So if a safe vaccine were out there, that could reduce the chances of my child contracting a disease that could risk her life, and yes cancers are life threatening events, I certainly would consider it. I would not give it to a 9 year old, and I would not look at it as a free pass to be promiscuous.
The problem is is that because HPV is viewed by some as strictly a sexual disease (which in fact it isn’t) they project more taboo on it than reality. its not, its a disease of the skin and its incredibly common... and certain strands if they infect the membranes can lead to warts or cancer.
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