Posted on 08/07/2008 7:13:47 AM PDT by weegee
Actually, spell check is most likely the problem, as both of those are valid dictionary words that probably slipped past the filter.
-ccm
This vaccine being shoved down young girls throats is the same as distributing condoms in school. The problem is the perpetuation of ignorance. You can’t get pregnant if you use a condom. You can’t get HPV if you get the vaccine. Nowhere in either of these progressive mantras is abstinence mentioned. The only way not to get pregnant is not to have sex. The only way not to get HPV is not to have sex.
The behavior is being subversively promoted. This time, it’s big pharma who is doing the promoting, not Planned Parenthood.
I’m pretty sure they can get penile cancer as well (it’s uncommon tho) and of course, they are passing it along to girls (and other boys as well).
And women can pass it on to their babies. I met a woman at a hospital, waiting for my husband to have surgery a number of years ago. Her grandaughter (high school age) was having her umpteenth surgery to remove growths that closed up her throat. She got HPV from her mom during birth. So, this IS a scourge, but I think the vaccine may give a false sense of security since it apparently doesn’t cover all strains. Behaviors are what need to be dealt with and as long as our culture and media suggest that it’s normal and fun and a great idea to have sex with anyone who stands still long enough, we’ll have these issues.
susie
There were relatively few side effects of vaccination. The proportion of subjects who reported one or more injection-site adverse events was higher in the vaccine group than in the placebo group (84.4% vs. 77.9%), with the most common event being injection-site pain (risk difference, 6.5 percentage points; 95% CI, 1.4 to 11.7) (Table 4). One subject in the placebo group discontinued participation owing to a serious injection-related adverse event (hypersensitivity). The proportions of women reporting serious adverse events were similar in the two treatment groups. (All systemic and serious adverse events, categorized by organ system and treatment group, are provided in Tables 5 and 6 of the Supplementary Appendix.) Within these categories, there were nominally significant differences in the percentages of subjects in the vaccine group and the placebo group who reported seasonal allergies (10 in the vaccine group and 2 in the placebo group [risk difference, 1.8; 95% CI, 0.3 to 3.7]) and neck pain (2 in the vaccine group and 10 in the placebo group [risk difference, –1.8; 95% CI, –3.7 to –0.3]). No multiplicity adjustments were made for these comparisons. Adverse-event profiles were generally similar for women with and without antibodies to one or more of the vaccine-related HPV types at enrollment.
I have always had a big problem with commercials. Never will a commercial ‘get’ me to run out and buy a product, but one ‘bad’ commercial WILL get me to avoid... A whole ‘campaign’ will cause me to do a house-hold boycott...
I hate being treated like I’m stupid. I use my common sense and analize commercials on a daily basis (yes- I watch WAY too much TV). There’s way too much ‘stupid man’(especially WHITE men), ‘stupid parents’, ‘green everything’, ‘buy our stuff and you’re smart - don’t and you’re fat, ugly, stupid and dirty’... The most ‘cool’ people are kids and afro-american couples (unless it’s men vs women then he gets made fun of too)
I have way too much time on my hands...
THESE comercials have bugged me -’Sex Ed’ during the day...
The first commercials weren’t bad. Grown women looking into the camera and saying ‘WOW - cancer caused by a VIRUS!?” OK... I didn’t know that. Interesting. Then I figured out what they meant. Too many sexual partners and you’ll never know which one ‘slipped’ the bug to you and BAM! You got cancer... hum... Don’t think I’ll have to worry about that...
Then they lost me... FOREVER. Way too young girls in the midst of their barely teen activities saying ‘I’m gonna get the shot so I don’t get cancer when I start having casual sex with the long string of my many, many sex-partners...’
AW!!! Planned Parenthood and don’t tell the ‘stupid parents’ about your abortion(s)! - ‘It’s none of their business!’
OK -they tried to make it better this last go ‘round. ‘Mom’ is so-o-o concerned that she comes into the room where ‘sweet-innocent’ is doing her thing and tells the camera how much she loves her baby and will protect her by ‘getting’ her the shot.
What happened? The powers-to-be find out that it isn’t like getting that ‘all-protected and mighty abortion’ and more like -I don’t know- say getting her ears pierced or taking an asprin? She ‘has’ to have Mom’s permission and signature on the forms... Humerous, if it didn’t make me sick.
Like I said, the commercials lost me and the facts of them cramming this thing down the throats of little girls with-out enough testing just didn’t help...
I have no dillusions about teens having sex. However, your presumption that only the promiscous get STD’s is just as gross a mischaracterization as you claim the teens are falling for with HPV vaccine marketing.
You can be as monogomous as you like, if your partner is not doing the same, you are at risk, and sadly like it or not, folks do cheat, and lie.
This is a hard choice for the moonbats.
Condoms in schools was about advancing the sex positive agenda, not about preventing disease or pregnancy.
It forever shifted the argument of IF teens should be having sex to WHEN.
The proponents of sex positive teaching seek to end all moral judgments over all sexual pairings regardless of sex, age, relation, marital status, number, or species of partner(s). They seek sexual pleasure as a birthright that should be enjoyed by everyone at every age and that, like homosexual desires, are wrong to supress. They oppose abstinence not because “it doesn’t work” (although they will claim that) but because they find it to be an unhealthy supression of sexual desires (and you can find them making that statement). positive.org runs a “just say yes” campaign aimed at teens (with the slogan that there are too many stuffy people telling you to say no).
Some folks just put politics in front of anything. HPV is an insanely common disease, and yes the vaccine doesn’t guard against all, and yes, HPV is not the only way cervical cancers happen.
HPV is a skin disease, that’s it.. when certain forms of it infect the membranes, it can cause warts, and the long term risk of cervical cancer that comes with it. Also, there is belief that the same HPV’s may be behind throat cancers, as folks exposed in the mouth can also be infected.
So if a safe vaccine were out there, that could reduce the chances of my child contracting a disease that could risk her life, and yes cancers are life threatening events, I certainly would consider it. I would not give it to a 9 year old, and I would not look at it as a free pass to be promiscuous.
The problem is is that because HPV is viewed by some as strictly a sexual disease (which in fact it isn’t) they project more taboo on it than reality. its not, its a disease of the skin and its incredibly common... and certain strands if they infect the membranes can lead to warts or cancer.
Did the people taking placebo develop blood clots?
Give it to your son too (if you have one).
There's a better way not to get cervical cancer. It's called monogamy.
The human immune system is already being overloaded with too many vaccines. Mercury, animal viruses and animal DNA are not supposed to be injected directly into the human blood stream. The toxins can make their way into the CNS and the immune system and the body goes haywire. Because people's immunity and genetic vulnerabilities are different, you get different reactions in the test subjects. Who wants to play guinea pig or lab rat for this? The young women who take this should be tracked for MS, infertility, miscarriages, and weird cancers over the next few decades.
The medical mafiosi pushing this on young girls are irresponsible. They simply don't know this is safe. The adverse reactions already logged suggest otherwise.
If you took the experimental Polio vaccine in the 1950s or 1960s, there is a strong chance you were exposed to a cancer-causing monkey virus, spread from the monkey kidneys used to grow the vaccine. Know anyone with MS or a weird cancer in their 40s or 50s? Yeah, look around...
Please take another look at the article. It is spelled correctly in numerous places.
The article mentions that about 9000 adverse reactions have been reported, some of them very serious reactions. Of cours it doesn't mention how many of them were serious, not how many people have been given the drug.
I'm guessing it seems safe to assume that people are far less likely to have an adverse reaction to this drug than to peanuts or shellfish. There are very few substances to which someone doesn't have a serious adverse reaction.
I'm sure the drug doesn't immunize against all versions of the virus that have been linked to cancer. I however, suspect they picked the two that are most common.
What is so notable about this article is how obviously it attempts to skew the facts by leaving out important details.
You would think that on a topic so important as people's children's health that someone that was truly concerned about those children's health would try and present an accurate picture of the risks and benefits of this drug so that the parents can make an informed decision about how best to protect the health of their children.
The author doesn't appear to have that kind of integrity.
I never said you must be promiscuous to get an STD. If that’s what you got out of my post our discussion here is a waste of both of our time.
susie
Good grief. That pig is looking for another jackpot?
You’re right, spell check doesn’t distinguish. There’s no substitute for edumacation.
“She is representing lawyers who are trolling for business. The onus is on HER to prove her statements, some of which are conjectures. As I mentioned, I do have reservations about Gardasil, but Brockovich is just another scam artist.”
Apparently she is not the only person with “conjectures” about Gardasil:
http://www.nypost.com/seven/07062008/news/nationalnews/feds_warning_shot_118716.htm?page=0
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