But of course, if you line it up with the 2003 form, you find that it actually reads "Allahfather."
Posted on 08/07/2008 8:42:20 PM PDT by Kevmo
When and How will the Obama Birth Certificate Forgery story break into the MSM? How do we get this out? Will we need to start filing lawsuits in each individual state?
Post your suppositions and activist suggestions here.
http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/certifigate/index?tab=articles
talk to everyone that you know about it.
mention it in the supermarket line so that nosy shoppers can hear!
Have any of these conspiracy theorists released the actual proof they found the images to be forgeries?
Cause so far they are blowing smoke up your arse Kevmo, and so far you are spreading wider asking for more thank you thank you very much, on a conservative news forum no less.
Maybe this is Hillary’s game plan?
Is this a trick question?
I started a parallel thread at Intrade to put a burr under their saddle:
https://bb.intrade.com/intradeForum/posts/list/90/2279.page
Here is legitimate newspaper reporting that Barack holds DUAL CITIZENSHIP:
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Holds both American and Kenyan (since 1963) citizenship.
~snip~
If there was anything to this, PIAPS would have sprung it long ago.
MSM is waiting for Obama to visit Hawaii to update his COLB.
“Hillary, at the convention, with a meat cleaver.” Oh wait, that is the game of Clue. Replace “meat cleaver” with “a gleam in her eye.”
Here, bozo. Just go to this one thread and refute the technical findings and all the conspiracy theorists will go back in their holes.
Obama’s “birth certificate” forged with sister Maya’s original
Tuesday, August 05, 2008 7:20:42 AM · by pissant · 457 replies · 11,541+ views
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2056802/posts
Israeli Insider ^ | 8/5/08 | staff
You mean Team Hildebeast? She probably didn’t find out until it was too late. That’s why this issue is blossoming now, and the PUMA folks are the ones pushing from their end because it would mean Hildebeast still would have a chance to win the nomination.
But of course, if you line it up with the 2003 form, you find that it actually reads "Allahfather."
Yup. The guy gets one week of vacation after 19months of campaigning and heads straight to the epicenter of this controversy. If he’s in town, fewer local detractors will be feel secure in releasing derogatory information.
And are you more of a technical expert than that guy Techdude? If you’re so freeping brilliant and this is so easily refuted, then refute it.
The best idea is for you to write Obama a letter addressing your concern.
If he answers you back; post it here as an update.
The second best idea is to read all the threads on FR regarding this subject; and peruse the may suggestions on the threads.
Pick the suggestion(s) you feel comfortable with and go for it.
sp=many suggestions
This is interesting. I did a search using the following keywords before I posted this article
obama birth certificate forgery “legitimate newspaper”
and then soon after, this thread came to the top of the list. Looks like it could be a good way to track the release of this story.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=obama+birth+certificate+forgery+%22legitimate+newspaper%22
The republicans can’t touch it because McCain was born in Panama, if they attack Obama on this point the blow-back could take out their candidate. (Both out? Hurt me, hurt me!)
Hillary!™ knows. She can’t be seen as the one who knifes Obama as his worshipers would kill her at the poles or literally.
I’m pretty sure she will have a surrogate set up a conservative to release the information.
Timing? Too close to the convention for Barack to do any damage control, if it is on Hillary!™’s schedule. The day after the convention if the Chosen One is a smart conservative.
I don’t believe it will. But if it does, it will be one big joke to the MSM. The people bringing the suits will be made fun of by everyone in the MSM.
Exactly!
There is plenty “to it”. It is a forgery. Pure, simple and without doubt.
“The republicans can’t touch it because McCain was born in Panama, if they attack Obama on this point the blow-back could take out their candidate.”
That is patently false.
I know more than a hundred people born overseas to Army families(mostly in Germany). Being born on a military base is exactly the same as being born on U.S. soil. There is no debate about that, and Obama’s potential situation is only vaguely similar.
But if it does, it will be one big joke to the MSM. The people bringing the suits will be made fun of by everyone in the MSM.
***Look at how they treated Paula Jones for so many years. But we all know she was telling the truth now. I think if this gets out in the MSM, every time they say something about Obama they’ll mention that McCain was born in Panama, as if this particular constitutional requirement is unfair.
I don’t care if he is a natural born citizen or not. It is his official campaign site that distributed an illegal forgery. He needs to resign from the Senate.
Good topic Kevmo.
Why would the MSM break this story. It is against their agenda.
Fair enough — but that doesn’t mean there isn’t a genuine birth certificate waiting to be sprung just in time to embarrass anyone claiming he isn’t an American.
***But a forgery is still a forgery. That’s what’s up on the stopthesmears website right now. And what’s the point of forging a real one, anyways? To play some ridiculous political game?
McCain’s being born in Panama is completely irrelevant, since both of his parents were U.S. citizens at the time. Any person born to two U.S. citizens, regardless of the place of birth, is a full, total, natural-born U.S. citizen. Period. That’s the law.
The “bimbo eruptions” of 1992 were calculated to divert attention from then candidate Clinton's more substantive failings. By sidetracking the discussion into a discussion of infidelity, he avoided scrutiny on other matters — such as his inexperience, corruption and anti-American proclivities.
Note that it says Colón, PANAMA.
Facts are stubborn things.
I know more than a hundred people born overseas to Army families(mostly in Germany).
***And the military would fall solidly behind McCain on this item. It’s a win-win for the republicans to break this story, I don’t see why it isn’t happening right now.
Totally wrong. Both of McCain's parents were US citizens at the time of his birth, which makes him a natural born citizen under the laws then and now. Obama's claim to natural born citizenship has not been proven and this forged COLB makes it even more dubious.
BirthGate would have been a better choice.
I am hoping this is a “Dan Rather” moment and the MSM has to choke.
I don’t think it is a matter of the republicans not wanting to touch it, but a matter of them not having the balls to touch it. There will be hell to pay to anyone that tries to take the media’s messiah.
He has collected Millions of dollars in campaign funds and the only proof he has shown of his eligibility is a poor forgery.
It is fraud on a scale unimaginable by our founding fathers.
TechDude showed that certain pixel deviations "fit" with certain proposed texts. I've seen nothing to show that such apparent fits could not happen by coincidence. Further, TechDude's blog doesn't show non-marked magnified versions of the areas where he is drawing his inferences so as to make clear why he is drawing them, nor does he do a good job of explaining what enhancements were performed on the image prior to analysis.
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Oh, wait...I mean, he’s Obama’s father...that was from March 1961.
The “bimbo eruptions” of 1992 were calculated to divert attention from then candidate Clinton’s more substantive failings.
***That’s not the impression I got at the time. The media was doing their best to play them down, even when there was a recording of Clinton telling Gennifer Flowers to “lie, just lie”, even under oath (sound familiar?). The MSM carries water for whichever democrat has the best chance and we all know it. Look how they’re even carrying water for Edwards right now on his love-child story, probably because he has a chance at being VP — but mostly just because he’s a dem.
Actually. No, it isn't.
There is no debate about that,
Actually. Yes, there is.
Last election cycle Sen. Claire McCaskill was sufficiently worried about this very point that she introduced a bill to declare McCain qualified.
Why do you suppose she went through all that unsuccessful effort to shore up a position you think is glaringly obvious?
Because it wasn't at all clear.
It still isn't.
The bill never passed as a law, only as a "sense of the senate"
Nope.
It’s the “sense of the senate” as if the senate has a lick of sense.
I cannot refute the fact that "Techdude" has made unsupported claims.
Perhaps if the files and instructions on replicating the "Maya Effect" on the FtS version were posted, then I'd have something to confirm or disprove. Until then, burden of proof is on the conspiracy crowd.
BTW, if you care to notice, I was the guy pointing out the marks of the seal while the conspiracy crowd here was crying that there was no seal. I showed how it could be identified by the naked eye right in the location that the edge detection methods showed it.
But am I going to waste my time while no credible report is available to confirm? Nope.
Actually, it’s the fact that he’s not using matching funds that helps protect him.
Unlike Obama, there is no question that McCain is a citizen.
There is plenty of question as to whether the is constitutionally qualified.
When the Founding Fathers wrote the Constitution, they were consciously trying to avoid jus sanguinis as Britain used this very doctrine to assert that anyone born anywhere of British parents is a British subject, and could therefore legally be pressed into the service of the Crown.
Just exactly how many generations of foreign born American ancestor blood do you think your decedents would owe to this this country?
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