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Reporters found Edwards' affair tough to prove
MSNBC ^ | 9:04 p.m. ET Aug. 8, 2008 | The Associated Press

Posted on 08/08/2008 7:57:28 PM PDT by jerod

AP's approach: 'Better to get it right even if we couldn't get it first'

WASHINGTON - Reporters don't like being beaten on a major political story, especially by a supermarket tabloid. And being beaten up over not reporting one is even less appealing.

But a sexual affair can have just two people who know the truth. Without witnesses, documents, photographs or some form of irrefutable evidence pointing to the truth, news organizations will not endanger their own integrity.

That made it difficult to prove — and to print — the rumors that John Edwards had cheated on his seriously ill wife while running for president. Reporters were left to poke around the edges of a potentially career-ending scandal in search of an opening.

"It's not like they didn't know it was there," said Mark Feldstein, a former investigative reporter who teaches journalism at George Washington University.

"Proof is the biggest issue," Feldstein said. "The National Enquirer is not well-regarded as a news source by the news media."....

(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.msn.com ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008electionbias; americanpravda; ap; apbias; caseofthemissingd; coverup; cyapolicy; democratscandals; dnctalkingpoints; doublestandard; edwards; edwards2008; howtostealanelection; liberalmedia; nationalguardmemos; obama2008; propagandawingofdnc; riellehunter; spinandbs; spinspin; stalinisttactics; yelllowjournalism; zogbyism
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Right... and if Edwards were a Republican they would've printed it immediately.
1 posted on 08/08/2008 7:57:29 PM PDT by jerod
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To: jerod
Without witnesses, documents, photographs or some form of irrefutable evidence pointing to the truth, news organizations will not endanger their own integrity.

OMG! LOL ROFL and all the rest...
Did they actually write that with a straight face.

2 posted on 08/08/2008 8:00:55 PM PDT by chaos_5 (Nancy "Mad Cow" Pelosi, call the House back into session!)
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To: jerod
Without witnesses, documents, photographs or some form of irrefutable evidence pointing to the truth, news organizations will not endanger their own integrity.

Integrity?!?!?! HAHAHAHAHAHA!!

As if they'd never fake documents....

3 posted on 08/08/2008 8:01:18 PM PDT by LibFreeOrDie
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To: jerod

And that’s why the MSM didn’t report those rumors about John McCain either ... oh, wait


4 posted on 08/08/2008 8:02:16 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (College kid: "Do you have a minute for Obama?" NVA: "Not now or ever.")
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To: jerod

If this hadn’t been all over the internet, they never would have said anything.


5 posted on 08/08/2008 8:03:05 PM PDT by nuconvert (Obama - Preferred by 4 out of 5 Dictators & Terrorists)
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To: jerod

Yep. like they were so careful with the McCain affair claim in the NYTimes.


6 posted on 08/08/2008 8:03:15 PM PDT by JLS
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To: jerod

But it was really easy for them to try to disprove the story.

One has to be brain dead, i.e. a democrat, to not see the political bias of the media.


7 posted on 08/08/2008 8:03:25 PM PDT by kenth (Just think, .000001783% of the population is screwing it all up for the rest of us.)
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To: jerod

right.

this is just playing to their peers and themselves.

self justification. we’re so honest, we have so much integrity.../s


8 posted on 08/08/2008 8:03:50 PM PDT by ken21 (people die and you never hear from them again.)
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To: jerod

Like proof from Kinkos?


9 posted on 08/08/2008 8:05:13 PM PDT by Loyal Buckeye
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To: jerod
National Enquire didnt have any problem tracing phone records.

Lets just see if they will do the foot work on the new information NE is following.

The money trail, 3 million digs for the woman and the guy who is claiming to be the father also admitting to receiving large sums of money.

10 posted on 08/08/2008 8:05:52 PM PDT by mware (F-R-E-E. That spells free. freerepublic.com baby)
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To: jerod

BS, All they have to do is ask the perp in person and film the answer(s).


11 posted on 08/08/2008 8:07:27 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Huma for co-president! (it ain't over 'til it's over))
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To: LibFreeOrDie

“Without witnesses, documents, photographs or some form of irrefutable evidence pointing to the truth, news organizations will not endanger their own integrity.”

I’d like to know what ‘news organizations’ this statement is referring to. ABC, CNN, CBS, PBS, MSNBC, NBC, the NYT, the LAT, AP, Reuters, Time, Newsweek, etc. have not endangered their integrity; they prostituted it.


12 posted on 08/08/2008 8:08:39 PM PDT by Spok (Whatever you say about McCain, it must be admitted that he's no B. Hussein Obama.)
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To: jerod

Please..someone make the list of repubs in the last 20 years that have been assaulted by the drive-by media. Some were guilty, some were innocent. ALL were hounded and accused by the msm.


13 posted on 08/08/2008 8:09:49 PM PDT by mirkwood
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To: jerod

PMSNBC and the MSMs:

“Spin spin spin spin
Spin spin spin spin
Wonderful Spin, Mahvelous Spin...”


14 posted on 08/08/2008 8:10:43 PM PDT by DGHoodini (Nor shall my sword sleep in my hand)
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To: jerod
That made it difficult to prove — and to print — the rumors that John Edwards had cheated on his seriously ill wife while running for president. Reporters were left to poke around the edges of a potentially career-ending scandal in search of an opening.

Who was feeding this story to the press to start with? Who put the woman up in hotels? John McCain wouldn't consider Edwards for a VP slot - and the "press" refused to look at a rape charge against Clinton - much worse than a one night stand. So who pushed this story? Who whispered rumors and passed out the hints? And why?

15 posted on 08/08/2008 8:11:07 PM PDT by GOPJ (What someone thinks is going to happen is not news. After it happens it is news. - Sowell)
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To: jerod

Balderdash!!!!

With Republicans it’s the seriousness of the charge!


16 posted on 08/08/2008 8:13:21 PM PDT by roses of sharon (SAVE YOUR GAS RECIEPTS, SEND TO PELOSI!)
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To: jerod
AP's approach: 'Better to get it right even if we couldn't get it first'

Yeah, sure you turd polishers. Your buddies at the New York Times certainly ran the flimsy McCain affair with Vicki Iseman story.

17 posted on 08/08/2008 8:13:40 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: jerod
Right... and if Edwards were a Republican they would've printed it immediately.

BINGO!!

18 posted on 08/08/2008 8:14:40 PM PDT by sionnsar (Impeach Obama |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: jerod
"Integrity" from the MSM:


19 posted on 08/08/2008 8:14:40 PM PDT by LibFreeOrDie
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To: jerod

The MSM of today waits for press releases - that is their idea of investigating a story.


20 posted on 08/08/2008 8:15:52 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself.)
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To: chaos_5
"news organizations will not endanger their own integrity."
OMG! LOL ROFL and all the rest... Did they actually write that with a straight face.

That they did, and that's how they think, just ask Dan Rather!

21 posted on 08/08/2008 8:17:44 PM PDT by sionnsar (Impeach Obama |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: jerod
Without witnesses, documents, photographs or some form of irrefutable evidence pointing to the truth, news organizations will not endanger their own integrity.

Nice camouflage Associated Propagandists. ROFLMAO! Their and your integrity as already been established. LOL!

22 posted on 08/08/2008 8:18:20 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: jerod
Without witnesses, documents, photographs or some form of irrefutable evidence pointing to the truth, news organizations will not endanger their own integrity.

Nice camouflage Associated Propagandists. ROFLMAO! Their and your integrity as already been established. LOL!

23 posted on 08/08/2008 8:18:35 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: GOPJ

This might answer “who” and “why”:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2058861/posts?page=28#28


24 posted on 08/08/2008 8:18:59 PM PDT by LibFreeOrDie
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To: jerod

this is CYA BS because the internet had the story sliced and diced FOR TWO WEEKS AT LEAST.

This is reporters trying to save their jobs and cover their incompetence.


25 posted on 08/08/2008 8:20:07 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: sionnsar

If Edwards were a Republican, the mistress would have already been interviewed on the Today show...perhaps the baby too...


26 posted on 08/08/2008 8:20:33 PM PDT by Rational Thought
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To: chaos_5
'their own integrity'? . . .irrefutable evidence?. . .and yes with a straight face to boot. But then Liberals are totally practiced. Didn't Clinton - our first Black President preach monagamy and/or 'one partner' so as to reduce Aids numbers crisis in Africa?
27 posted on 08/08/2008 8:23:17 PM PDT by cricket (Damn Political Correctness; before it damns us all. . .)
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To: jerod

‘Better to get it right even if we couldn’t get it first’

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!

This AP, Right??
OBVIOUSLY that rule only applies to DEMOCRATS, because that certainly hasn’t been the case with REPUBLICANS....


28 posted on 08/08/2008 8:24:09 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Beware Of False Prophets/ME-ssiahs Selling Hopium....)
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To: jerod
EDWARDS IN CURLERS

"Readers of the popular if trashy weekly — perhaps some who only glance at the headlines at the checkout counter — joined the political enemies of the handsome Democrat in asking why other news media were not carrying the story."
29 posted on 08/08/2008 8:24:21 PM PDT by JACKRUSSELL
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To: jerod

I’d like to see a poll of nothing but Democrats, asking if they believed the media didn’t report this story only because it was too difficult to prove.

Just to get a base number of how many Americans I can write off automatically astotally clueless and beyond hope.


30 posted on 08/08/2008 8:28:01 PM PDT by airborne (Happy 21st birthday, Sidney Crosby!!!)
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To: jerod

Bullcrap. Republican Senator Larry Craig.

The real story is that they didn’t want to investigate it. They didn’t want to have to deal with it. They didn’t want to take down a prominent, beautiful democrat woman.


31 posted on 08/08/2008 8:30:13 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: jerod

Richard Jewell
The Duke Lacross “rapists”
The National Guard memos (AP was the news agency that forced CBS’ hand, CBS almost lost their “scoop”)
McCain’s “affair”

I call BULLSTALIN.


32 posted on 08/08/2008 8:30:42 PM PDT by weegee (Hi there.)
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To: jerod

“Right... and if Edwards were a Republican they would’ve printed it immediately.”

Of course they would’ve, in a heartbeat!!! Interesting also that the Enquirer is becoming a leader in breaking real stories, for at least the second time recently. Although the “news media” disparages them - with all the past mega-lawsuits they’ve had, I think they’re (now) actually more responsible and trustworthy than most of the MSM when it comes to facts. I saw an interview earlier with one of their spokesmen who said they’d been researching the Edwards story for many, many months. None of the other networks had the cajones to barely mention it, much less follow up.


33 posted on 08/08/2008 8:32:03 PM PDT by llandres (I'd rather be alive and bankrupt than dead and solvent)
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To: jerod
If this had happened to a Republican, it would have been first page news as soon as it was found out. TV people would have been on it weeks ago. I was smart enough to quit watching network news 25 years ago. Hardly ever read the newspapers unless I have time to kill. lol
34 posted on 08/08/2008 8:32:34 PM PDT by MamaB (Heb.13:2)
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To: jerod

What about “the seriousness of the charge”?


35 posted on 08/08/2008 8:34:56 PM PDT by The Worthless Miracle (Where's Michele??)
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To: jerod
"Without witnesses, documents, photographs or some form of irrefutable evidence pointing to the truth, news organizations will not endanger their own integrity."

HAHAHAHA! What a load of B.S. It's never stopped MSM before.

What's worse, despite witness, doccuments, photographs and other irrefutable evidence pointing to a truth, MSM WILL NOT PRINT a story that harms their political position.

36 posted on 08/08/2008 8:35:59 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: jerod

AP’s approach: ‘Better to get it right even if we couldn’t get it first’

Oh really, is that why Dan Rather couldn’t wait to publish a memo without verifying its authenticity?


37 posted on 08/08/2008 8:39:24 PM PDT by Truthsearcher
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To: airborne
I’d like to see a poll of nothing but Democrats, asking if they believed the media didn’t report this story only because it was too difficult to prove. Just to get a base number of how many Americans I can write off automatically as totally clueless and beyond hope.

That WOULD be an informative poll.

How come they never do polls like that? Oh well. *sigh*

I think that poll, if done, would reveal that only a minority believe it, which is part of the reason I think Democrats are going to elect McCain.

The only thing really interesting will be to see if Hillary switches parties back to the party of her youth (Republican, IIRC) in order to run as McCain's VP. I wouldn't put it past the brazen critter, and wouldn't put it past her getting away with it, the way the political constellations are now. Anything can happen, yipes.

Then it would be really interesting to see who Republicans would vote for.

38 posted on 08/08/2008 8:52:05 PM PDT by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent)
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To: jerod
B S !!!
39 posted on 08/08/2008 8:56:02 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: jerod
"...But a sexual affair can have just two people who know the truth. Without witnesses, documents, photographs or some form of irrefutable evidence pointing to the truth, news organizations will not endanger their own integrity unless it is a conservative or Republican, then no real proof is needed..."

Corrected portion in bold.

The transparency of these mediots is truly astounding. They must really get a rush when they throw their credibility in the crapper on a daily basis.

40 posted on 08/08/2008 8:57:42 PM PDT by smedley64 (UHbUHmUH- The incoherent candidate.)
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To: jerod
The NYTs didn't have a problem insinuating, on their front page, that John McCain was having an affair with a lobbyist that proved to be a lie.
41 posted on 08/08/2008 8:59:11 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: jerod
BS. They didn't do it because of alleged lack of proof. They've done hit pieces on Republican candidates for far less. The MSM just won't owe up to journalistic malpractice before the American people.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

42 posted on 08/08/2008 9:01:25 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: chaos_5
Suuure. And Dan Rather's airing of the forged National Guard documents in an obvious effort to discredit Bush was a product of through fact-checking and meticulous reporting! The MSM/Drivebyers are full of themselves.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

43 posted on 08/08/2008 9:04:20 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: JACKRUSSELL

That picture is an insult to women who wear rollers everywhere.


44 posted on 08/08/2008 9:05:33 PM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: jerod
Amazing that given when this 'hit the fan' - the second time around; that John seems to think he can still fool the public - with help from his friends, of course - his story that this 'mistake' ended what. . .two years ago? LOL; given the circumstances as to how Enquier made their definitive case against Edwards; about two weeks ago. Depends on the meaning of 'over' I guess. . .

Meantime, did he not say he had recently grown narcissistic'? lol/ we know his narcissism has been unplugged for years! (have only to think of his 'Breck moment' per hair-combing event' caught on camera; and nothing 'recent' about that display of 'self-indulgence'. (Depends on the meaning of 'recent'. ..)

Do hope they investigate just 'who' is paying the now, 'Mother'; and from where it comes from (Campaign finance or Edward's has secret bank account?). How is all this reported per 'income tax'? We need more 'light' here; hope someone has a bright one.

Meantime, 'thanks National Enquier'. . .(sickening listening to Libs call this a 'tragedy'. Scooter Libby was a tragedy; Edwards sowed. . .and now he reaps; at least I hope he does.)

And did he have to say per these relevations of his private life; that he has now been 'beaten up and stripped bare'? /gag for sure/ Did he mean to share such personal details here? Strange choice of words, for sure. . ./double gag/

45 posted on 08/08/2008 9:07:19 PM PDT by cricket (Damn Political Correctness; before it damns us all. . .)
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To: CaptainK
You can say one thing about the Breck Girl: he hasn't done anything any Democrat before him didn't do!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

46 posted on 08/08/2008 9:07:25 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: jerod
Let the MSM rationalizations begin!

They can spare us the BS. The Pressholes were dragged kicking and screaming to this party.

47 posted on 08/08/2008 9:07:39 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (Been here before)
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To: jerod

Jokes R Us


48 posted on 08/08/2008 9:10:58 PM PDT by Ben Chad
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To: jerod

Tell us some more fairy tales.


49 posted on 08/08/2008 9:15:28 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: jerod
What a crock. The Vicki Iseman affair fabrication got propelled into the frontpage spotlight by every MSM agency - their "evidence" was bovine fart dust.

Edwards would have never confessed to the affair if the online community was not around. The internet is the best thing that ever happened for news - the paradigm of MSM control over the spread of information has ended.


50 posted on 08/08/2008 9:18:41 PM PDT by M203M4 (True Universal Suffrage: Pets of dead illegal-immigrant felons voting Democrat (twice))
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