Skip to comments.This day in History: Atomic bomb dropped on Nagasaki (Happy Nagasaki Day!)
Posted on 08/09/2008 3:50:28 AM PDT by abb
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I guess it depends on what your definition of non-combatant is. Two of the dead were my wife's aunt and cousin. Rice farmers from the countryside who picked the wrong day to go the big city.
I’m alive, that counts!
Thank you nit, and thanks for the card too.
Also known as, "Want some more, just come on back Day".
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Too many people are trying to brow beat the US over dropping atomic bombs on WWII Japan.
Let them bear witness to our happy day of victory and our pride of the fantastic military achievement.
Let them have no doubt it was the correct thing to do, and we would do it again too.
The alternative would send a wrong historical signal that could lead to a miscalculation on whether we would hesitate to use such weapons again, or we seed doubt in our own minds and in some future war fail to take the necessary action of using such weapons, which could lead to destruction and enslavement.
Speaking historically, it was common for victories to be announced to the public on both sides of the war, which would cause celebration among the people for such great victories. Just because we score the greatest hits, this should be no different. You can bet your bippy that if the shoe was on the other foot they would be celebrating it and we would have lost and most definitely would not be enjoying the modern fruitful lives that the Japanese enjoy today.
I think most people would call them innocent, non-combatants.
"I feel like a fugitive from th' law of averages."
1) End the war and save American lives
2) Give a signal to the Russians. Back OFF!( few people know about that one).
As to the candle light vigils, I can understand the Japanese mourning the loss of so , so many, and the necessity of that because of kanagara. Few people understand Obon in the West.
But the Western ding bat cling ons give me the creeps.I call them hearse chasers.
Necessity in war is always redefined by History, in every civilization without exception.
And now we may have to eventually do the same again in the ME. Makes one shudder to think that the Iranians have the same approach to nuclear weapons as many who posted here, necessitating eventual usage by the West.They are as crazy as the Imperial Japanese Spirit Movement mavins of WWII.Too bad we could not have bottled the Nagasaki stench and made an aerosol spray that they could sniff as a virtual reminder of the true context of what had to be done.A decision that one would not want to wish on anyone.
There is no "Happy Nagasaki Day" for anyone.
How anyone could celebrate VJ Day (August 15th) is PERFECTLY understandable, for one celebrates the surrender of an opponent. However, there is no "celebration" of Pearl Harbour, or Nanking, or Hiroshima, or Dresden or Firebombed Tokyo, and it cannot be justified for any reason--due to the well documented deaths of a significant number of innocents, some horrific, painful deaths--these acts do not mark the highest points in the human history of mankind but of tragedies that ended none too soon.
One wonders why FReeper inheritors of Nobless Oblige can't get it.
I believe they are afraid, for whatever reason. Fear does strange things to judgement.
I cringe to think that a kanagara person read this thread.
At least some of us have taken those words in issue, as genuine human beings of noble heritage.
But you know what? Too many like the idea of it as an end in itself, as if it were some kind of entertaining video game.
There is no Happy Dresden Day, No Happy Hiroshima Day, and No Happy Nagasaki Day.
People need to have there noses held up against a 3 day old gut spread, road kill, for a few hours.
There is no pleasure in killing, especially the kind that we had to do to save our men. Anyone who thinks so is more than a few cards short of a deck.
Those that have know what we speak of.
We celebrate victories (August 15, 1945, November 11, 1918, July 20, 1969, July 4, 1776, etc), or great creative or explorative human accomplishments, we don't celebrate people loudly wailing and screaming in pain with the skin coming off of their backs just to expose their bare rib-cages. We can remember, we can recall, but how can we wish someone a "Happy Day" in that context?
I am glad there are some Freepers with class and Christian upbringing.
This is something people in Hiroshima still suffer with, even 63 years later. Up in Tokyo, it is mostly horrific memories, but not radiation (cancers, keloids, birth defects, etc).
Nagasaki had and probably does have one of the largest concentrations of
CHRISTIANS in all of Japan. That IS a fact.
The only reason I had a clue about this (before the birth of the
Internet and FR) was a friend that moved to Japan to be a missionary.
When I heard the Islamics braying like jack@$$es about Dubya using
the term “Crusade”, I said they must be ignorant that when given the
choice...we nuked the center of Christianity in Japan.
To some degree because Henry Stimson decided to strike Kyoto from
the target list because he admired it (he honeymooned there decades earlier).
And partly because of the fickle finger of fate sending clouds
over an earlier target.
I heard a guy in Kokura once half joke, "they got it instead of us, all due to the weather."
I am glad there are some Freepers with class and Christian upbringing. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Me too, and I am Shingon Buddhist! LOL.
My wife's maiden name was Bock. Very interesting.
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