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Relatives of U.S. Men's Volleyball Coach Stabbed in Beijing, 1 Dead
Fox News ^ | August 9, 2008 | Not stated

Posted on 08/09/2008 4:27:25 AM PDT by Islander7

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: appliances; boycott; candy; china; chinesejunk; chineseproducts; communism; electronics; lamps; lenovo; mao; mostfavorednation; murder; olympics; terror; tools; toys
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1 posted on 08/09/2008 4:27:26 AM PDT by Islander7
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To: KylaStarr; Cindy; StillProud2BeFree; nw_arizona_granny; Velveeta; Dolphy; appalachian_dweller; ...

ping


2 posted on 08/09/2008 4:29:36 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Islander7

Oh no. Link is not working, my fault Im sure. Is this the same incident as earlier. “One US Visitor killed, killer commits suicide”


3 posted on 08/09/2008 4:32:52 AM PDT by GoCards
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To: Calpernia

Thanks for the ping Calpernia.

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4 posted on 08/09/2008 4:33:43 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: GoCards

Yes, searched this title with no results.


5 posted on 08/09/2008 4:34:46 AM PDT by Islander7 ("Show me an honest politician and I will show you a case of mistaken identity.")
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To: Islander7

How sad.Prayers for the family.


6 posted on 08/09/2008 4:35:40 AM PDT by fatima
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To: Islander7

NBC saying it appears to be random with no motive....

Ok...the guy attacks Americans in broad daylight in a supposedly secure area and then immediately commits suicide...

Easily dismissed as a random non-politically motivated act. < /sarcasm>


7 posted on 08/09/2008 4:38:14 AM PDT by big'ol_freeper (A vote for third party is a vote for nObama)
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To: Islander7

The Chinese should appreciate Americans. After all, if we weren’t buying so much of their junk, their economy would be a mess.

It would be great if I could go into stores looking for small appliances, lamps, tools, toys, electronics ... all kinds of products.... and actually have a choice - something not made in China.


8 posted on 08/09/2008 4:41:31 AM PDT by pleikumud
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To: GoCards
“killer commits suicide”

ROP????????

9 posted on 08/09/2008 4:43:43 AM PDT by johnny7 ("Duck I says... ")
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To: big'ol_freeper
NBC saying it appears to be random with no motive....

Snort. Gee, who needs the Politburo?

10 posted on 08/09/2008 4:44:10 AM PDT by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: mewzilla

Huh an American is stabbed and killed and the attacker commits suicide, doesn’t sound random to me, sounds like the attacker was the regular islamic nut looking for his 72 grapes in heaven.


11 posted on 08/09/2008 4:50:19 AM PDT by DallasBiff
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To: DallasBiff

Well, I the perp could be your average garden variety wackdoodle. We have people going postal over here. But with all the foreigners running around Beijing at the meoment, what are the odds that the guy gets a couple of Americans to attack?


12 posted on 08/09/2008 4:56:12 AM PDT by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: Islander7

It’s shocking and very sad. Obviously the relatives were proud and delighted of their coach’s accomplishments and were there to share in what was to have been a big moment in his life .. then this.

Why they’d have to have worn any apparel indicating they were part of the US delegation for the perp to have figured out that they were Americans doesn’t make sense ... you can always pick out Americans in any crowd. But I DO think it was the lone act of the perp.

The Chinese government is probably mortified that a violent crime happened during their Olympics. It may choose at another time to wipe out millions of us in a single stroke, but a single violent crime during their moment of internaitonal glory is not what they want.


13 posted on 08/09/2008 5:02:11 AM PDT by EDINVA
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To: mewzilla

Indeed. Since they were relatives of a US volleyball coach, perhaps somebody with a stake in the volleyball competitions.

Paging Jeff Gilooley..


14 posted on 08/09/2008 5:02:45 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (Our troops DESERVE BETTER than Barack Hussein Obama!!)
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To: EDINVA

It may not have been what they wanted, but it’s what they got. Considering the anti-west propaganda that they feed their populace on a regular basis, they shouldn’t be one bit surprised.


15 posted on 08/09/2008 5:05:29 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (Our troops DESERVE BETTER than Barack Hussein Obama!!)
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To: Islander7

Filthy chicoms.


16 posted on 08/09/2008 5:05:41 AM PDT by MARKUSPRIME
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To: MARKUSPRIME

Thats what you get for holding the Olympics in a 3rd world country


17 posted on 08/09/2008 5:08:11 AM PDT by ketelone
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To: johnny7
ROP????

Not in this instance it seems, but there is this..

Chinese Islamic Group Threatens Olympic Transportation Attack

Chinese Army: Islamic Militants Biggest Threat to Olympic Games

18 posted on 08/09/2008 5:09:31 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (Our troops DESERVE BETTER than Barack Hussein Obama!!)
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To: prairiebreeze
Meanwhile, from a few days ago....

China police grenade massacre: a rapid clean-up

19 posted on 08/09/2008 5:10:07 AM PDT by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: ketelone

I won’t watch one bit of it. Normally I’d tune in for certain events, but not this year.


20 posted on 08/09/2008 5:10:10 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (Our troops DESERVE BETTER than Barack Hussein Obama!!)
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To: mewzilla

Well, there you go. Thanks for the link.


21 posted on 08/09/2008 5:11:35 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (Our troops DESERVE BETTER than Barack Hussein Obama!!)
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To: prairiebreeze

Just checked Foggy Bottom’s website. The State Dept’s got a travel alert up for China...regarding the earthquake a while ago. Nothing up yet on this latest.


22 posted on 08/09/2008 5:15:34 AM PDT by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: Islander7

This is a very sad and horrific incident. Think of how many foreign tourists that have been murdered murdered in NYC.


23 posted on 08/09/2008 5:15:43 AM PDT by kenmcg
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To: ketelone

“Thats what you get for holding the Olympics in a 3rd world country”

Yeh. The 1st world has a good track record:

Remember 1972 in Munich (the murder of the Israeli team)
Remember 1996 in Atlanta (the bombing)


24 posted on 08/09/2008 5:22:18 AM PDT by exhaustguy
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To: kenmcg
This is a very sad and horrific incident. Think of how many foreign tourists that have been murdered murdered in NYC.

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What do you mean?

25 posted on 08/09/2008 5:26:12 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham

I can remember German tourists who rented cars at Miami Airport being stalked and killed a few years ago. Its not germane to China.


26 posted on 08/09/2008 5:41:41 AM PDT by laconic
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To: Islander7

“Something’s just not right about this story” bump...


27 posted on 08/09/2008 5:44:33 AM PDT by LikeLight (http://www.believersguidetolegalissues.com)
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To: laconic
Its not germane to China.

"The g@d@#nd Germans got nuthin' to DO wid it!!!"
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28 posted on 08/09/2008 5:47:10 AM PDT by mkjessup
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To: laconic

And?


29 posted on 08/09/2008 5:54:21 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: prairiebreeze

I followed the Olympics opening thread last night, and the FReepers who’d been to China spoke of how warmly they were greeted and well treated by average Chinese who seem to like Americans, govt propaganda notwithstanding. It could be this guy was just a nut case. Or, it could be he’s a Chinese Muslim, which groups did threaten to create havoc at the Olympics. The story has yet to unfold (if ever it does). I just feel so sorry for the victims, the family and the volleyball team.


30 posted on 08/09/2008 5:56:32 AM PDT by EDINVA
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To: Islander7
and the newest event at the Chinese Olympics, Whack The Americans.

Time to pack the bags and get out.

31 posted on 08/09/2008 5:58:08 AM PDT by tobyhill (fraud -noun;(1)deceit, trickery, sharp practice, or breach of confidence, (2) Obama)
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To: Islander7

This type of violence could occur in any American big city sh** hole.


32 posted on 08/09/2008 5:58:19 AM PDT by verity ("Lord, what fools we mortals be!")
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To: verity
This type of violence could occur in any American big city sh** hole.

True. But the perpetrator wouldn't commit suicide immediately afterwards.


33 posted on 08/09/2008 6:07:07 AM PDT by Ticonderoga34
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To: prairiebreeze

“I won’t watch one bit of it. Normally I’d tune in for certain events, but not this year.”

I watched part of the opener for the sake of my mother, who used to always watch it, God rest her soul. Other than that, I agree with you.

I also think Matt Lauer should be denied entry into the US for his comment that the Chinese will push and possibly surpass the US in medals. Someone should at least plaster his suitcases with “Kill a Commie for Mommie” stickers & give him the T-shirt. No doubt, HE WAS VERY WELL PAID FOR THAT COMMENT.

After an event like this stabbing, why would anyone watch the Olympics? I guess it’s great to think of having to escort Americans under armed security to see any tourist or other site. Why relatives of athletes and coaches would not be escorted is beyond me. They are our enemies after all, even if we pretend they’re not. They are communist chinese.


34 posted on 08/09/2008 6:09:11 AM PDT by combat_boots (She lives! 22 weeks, 9.5 inches. Go, baby, go!)
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To: EDINVA
“The Chinese government is probably mortified...”

Snort. Ooh boy. That was a good one.

Mortification is a form of shame.

Evil has no shame.

The ChiComs only see it as something that needs to be “spun” like our Democrat party when one of their leading contenders for the White House is found in ANOTHER sex-related bald-faced lie.

35 posted on 08/09/2008 6:14:53 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (If Hillary is elected, her legacy will be telling the American people: Better put some ice on that.)
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To: prairiebreeze
I won’t watch one bit of it. Normally I’d tune in for certain events, but not this year.

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I don't plan to watch it either, for the first time ever. I'm disgusted with the whole thing.

36 posted on 08/09/2008 6:15:25 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: pleikumud

There’s always ebay, and http://www.madeinusa.org has other sources you can turn to.

When I need something and everything I see in the local stores is made overseas, I search ebay. They always have something better and often more interesting too. Like if you want an automatic pencil, you can get a bag of Chinese pencils, or you can go on ebay, find an antique silver one made in America, with a 50-year track record of performance, a mysterious inscription, and a stanhope peephole you can look into and see a magnified photo of the National Cathedral. :)

Really.


37 posted on 08/09/2008 6:22:51 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (My spiritual advisor is a lawyer.)
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To: trisham

I’m not watching either and I normally love the Summer Olympics—diving, swimming, gymnastics, track & field.


38 posted on 08/09/2008 6:34:52 AM PDT by KansasGirl ( b/c Obama is just creepy.)
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To: KansasGirl

Me, too. What a mistake was made this time around.


39 posted on 08/09/2008 6:39:14 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Islander7

RIP.


40 posted on 08/09/2008 7:19:53 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: big'ol_freeper
NBC saying it appears to be random with no motive....

Can't believe how much sucking up to the Communists NBC did last night during the opening ceremonies.

41 posted on 08/09/2008 7:24:59 AM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

well, I beg to differ ... in the Asian world there’s a concept called “face,” as in ‘saving face’ that is critically important. It has to do with image/perception and honor, as it is defined within that culture.

For a solitary Chinese citizen to have violently killed at least one American tourist, related to an Olympic participant no less, would be seen as a loss of face. It shows their control was inadequate. Lose “face” and it’s hari-kari time. Someone in the security area of the Chinese government will pay.

There is no comparable ‘face: ir shame factor, ever. under any circumstances, among Dems.


42 posted on 08/09/2008 8:18:17 AM PDT by EDINVA
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To: EDINVA
You give the ChiComs far more credit and respect than they have earned.

They are evil scumbag and don't give a damn about human rights or human life.

All they care about is power. Power over their people now. Power over the Pacific rim in the near future. Power over America after that.

All they care about is making themselves look rightful rulers. If they can't pull that off, then they'll happily settle for the people living in terror. That's it.

43 posted on 08/09/2008 8:20:55 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (If Hillary is elected, her legacy will be telling the American people: Better put some ice on that.)
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To: Islander7

Minnesota man killed in Beijing........

http://www.startribune.com/26470189.html?elr=KArksLckD8EQDUoaEyqyP4O:DW3ckUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aULPQL7PQLanchO7DiUs


44 posted on 08/09/2008 8:39:39 AM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Fight Crime. Shoot Back.)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

The discussion wasn’t about China’s abyssmal human rights record or even their present form of government. We have no disagreement there. You questioned my comment that the ChiComs would be ‘mortified’ at the violent murder of an American tourist. I would argue that, yes, they would be and are mortified. They may be evil, but they are proud, and see themselves as a superior form of human - well, except for those freedom-seeking rabble rousers.

Violence against visitors in any form was the last thing they wanted during the Games. If you caught Fox’s early Friday am story, as the Opening Ceremony took place, there were no people or non-official cars even allowed on the street in the entire city of Beijing.

Hosting these Olympics is absolutely huge to them in a way it wouldn’t be to a free nation. They are trying to gain the respect of the world. They are trying to show the world (and receiving a LOT of help from NBC, I might add) that communism can work.

Seeking respect as a civil society under communist control is totally different from their human rights abuses, their wish to dominate the world, etc. They want the world’s respect in spite of all that. So, a violent street crime (such as occurs daily in most major cities) is a cause of extreme shame within their culture.


45 posted on 08/09/2008 8:53:34 AM PDT by EDINVA
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To: big'ol_freeper
Boston.com says Beijing locals are being told not to tell the press what happened. They locals say they know what this was about but can't say.
46 posted on 08/09/2008 9:12:19 AM PDT by gitmo (From now on, ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which I will not put.)
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To: zert_28

Perhaps it was not suicide. ;-)


47 posted on 08/09/2008 10:26:15 AM PDT by verity ("Lord, what fools we mortals be!")
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To: EDINVA
Our disagreement is in ascribing the “Western” notion of ‘mortification’ and ‘shame’ to communists. I am arguing that they do not share in those emotions, as they considered the Western notion of romantic love as something false and invented until only a century ago.

Think of Stalin. That animal had no sense of shame. Yes, he may have worried somewhat over the effect of some of his actions (starving the Ukrainians), but at the end of the day, he didn't care about their lives.

As I said, communists are sociopaths and their communistic beliefs trump their national and inherited pride. They want worldly power now. They don't care what the world thinks if they gun down a thousand students demand the freedom of speech. They don't care about the life of one ‘capitalist pig American.’ They only care about how to spin it to do damage control.

So, unless you think that the ChiComs (the government leadership) have endearing qualities, which I do not, then we really have no disagreement. I'm not talking about the Chinese people. Only the ChiComs.

48 posted on 08/09/2008 10:44:53 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (If Hillary is elected, her legacy will be telling the American people: Better put some ice on that.)
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To: trisham; KansasGirl

It’s the Olympic Committee insinuating a moral equivalency between all forms of government that galls me most in their decision to award these games to Beijing. Just like the UN.

(I like both of your taglines, btw)


49 posted on 08/09/2008 2:55:21 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (Our troops DESERVE BETTER than Barack Hussein Obama!!)
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To: prairiebreeze
Thanks! And I agree with you about the Olympic Committee.
50 posted on 08/09/2008 3:04:00 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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