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More of the Same: My Two Cents on Lawless Law Enforcement
Spare Change | August 8, 2008 | David J. Aland

Posted on 08/09/2008 9:40:03 PM PDT by Natty Bumppo@frontier.net

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To: Natty Bumppo@frontier.net

It is way past time for the State Government to take over the County government completely and investigate every county employee of that county, elected or other then...oh nevermind, the state is Maryland.


21 posted on 08/10/2008 9:06:16 AM PDT by arthurus
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To: berdie

LE doesn’t knock much any more. They smash in and shoot whatever four-leggeds are in the area. Sometimes I think it is dangerous not to have a dog or two on the property when the police come by ‘accident’ to your house. What if they don’t have a dog to shoot? They obviously feel entitled to shoot SOMEone.


22 posted on 08/10/2008 9:13:46 AM PDT by arthurus
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To: Eagles6

There was some question as to the source of the “shrapnel” that hit the combat vests of the two cops. It seems their own gunfire may have accomplished the hits. Considering the level of candor of the officers I don’t think anyone can even say with any certainty that the old lady fired or even had a gun.


23 posted on 08/10/2008 9:18:03 AM PDT by arthurus
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To: Sandreckoner

I would very much like to see your defense of the officers in Maryland and the ones in Atlanta. Surely you know more about it than any of the rest of us.


24 posted on 08/10/2008 9:20:08 AM PDT by arthurus
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To: Diplomat
Before you start blaming liberalism for this, was not Reagan the one who started this b.s. WOD?

The WOD started in the late 1960's.

25 posted on 08/10/2008 9:22:57 AM PDT by supercat
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Thanks, I knew I was wrong in the sense of who “started the federalization” when I made my post. Reagan just talked a big game on this and legislated within the confines of a Democrat congress. Thus spending likely went up a bit over his predecessors, but nothing out of ordinary and not the start of the problem either. supercat 1, Diplomat 0

I pinged Wiki on this and interestingly enough it says Nixon signed the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) into being in 1973. Thus, if true, I'd still argue that we have a non-liberal as the genesis of this problem. Things that make you go hmmm. Though, wait, if the FBI was tasked to enforce these laws before the DEA got them, then, hmmm.

Would not the elimination of the "no knock" warrant go a long way to fixing this problem?

26 posted on 08/10/2008 10:36:47 AM PDT by Diplomat
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Would not the elimination of the "no knock" warrant go a long way to fixing this problem?

What I would like to see would be a recognition of juries' legitimate role in deciding "reasonableness". If twelve ordinary people would conclude that the manner in which a search was conducted in a particular case was not reasonable, the search should be legally regarded as unreasonable and therefore (per Article VI) illegitimate.

Defendants need to be allowed to have juries informed about the background and execution of searches, and told that they should regard as illegitimate any search that was not reasonable, along with any evidence from such a search. If juries were so informed, policemen who wanted to win their cases would have to refrain from SWAT tactics except in cases where a reasonable person would judge them appropriate.

27 posted on 08/10/2008 3:10:41 PM PDT by supercat
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To: SlapHappyPappy
Its gotten to the point that US citizens have more to fear from the drug enforcement squads and DAE types then they have from dopers

It's why I turned against the war on drugs

28 posted on 08/10/2008 6:38:11 PM PDT by Charlespg (Peace= When we trod the ruins of Mecca and Medina under our infidel boots.)
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To: Charlespg

I actually have been anti-WOD for some time, even though I am opposed to drug use, and even when I had a family member involved.

There are just far too many stories of abuse for those of us on the right to pretend it’s just media bias. I truthfully believe the real “law and order” types recognize that a certain segment of law enforcement is just as unlawful as those they are sworn to protect us from.


29 posted on 08/10/2008 7:08:06 PM PDT by SlapHappyPappy
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There are just far too many stories of abuse for those of us on the right to pretend it’s just media bias. I truthfully believe the real “law and order” types recognize that a certain segment of law enforcement is just as unlawful as those they are sworn to protect us from.

I grew up in the era of Adam-12 and CHIP's when the police were considered the good guys.

Now because of the war on drugs and and the lower standards and ever increasing militarization along the no knock warrants.The US is turning into a banana republic where the cops are to be feared and mistrusted.

Unfortunately the only way we can stop this kind of stuff is bypass the government and pass a constitutional amendment outlawing no knock warrants and repealing the drug laws

30 posted on 08/10/2008 9:55:54 PM PDT by Charlespg (Peace= When we trod the ruins of Mecca and Medina under our infidel boots.)
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To: Charlespg
I grew up in the era of Adam-12 and CHIP's when the police were considered the good guys. Now because of the war on drugs and and the lower standards and ever increasing militarization along the Cops and no knock warrants.
The US is turning into a banana republic where the cops are to be feared and mistrusted.

Unfortunately the only way we can stop this kind of stuff is bypass the government and pass a constitutional amendment outlawing no knock warrants and repealing the drug laws

31 posted on 08/10/2008 10:15:50 PM PDT by Charlespg (Peace= When we trod the ruins of Mecca and Medina under our infidel boots.)
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