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Where they feel “comfortable to reveal who they are" ( Catholics, Homosexuality O.C. CA)
California Catholic Daily ^ | August 4, 2008 | staff

Posted on 08/10/2008 3:23:23 PM PDT by kellynla

Orange diocese’s “gay” and lesbian spiritual support group seeks to overcome discrimination in the Church

Where are Catholics to go to deepen their understanding of the “gay community”? Where can the “gay community” find spiritual support? According to the July 2008 Orange County Catholic, the newspaper of the Orange diocese, they’ll find such understanding and support in Koinonia, “a community of gay and lesbian people and family and friends of gay and lesbian people” which meets at Orange’s St. Joseph Center, run by the Sisters of St. Joseph of Orange.

A couple, Laura and Tom (not their real names) discovered Koinonia when, over ten years ago, two of their six children, a son and a daughter, told them they were homosexual. The couple remembers their children (the son in his late 20s, the daughter in her early thirties) saying they waited so long to tell them because “we thought you wouldn’t accept us.” For Tom and Laura, there was no question about acceptance; “we know how wonderful they are,” Tom, a Catholic convert, said.

[[holyfamcathorg.jpg]]Tom and Laura then learned about Koinonia. Though they had some “gay friends and acquaintances,” Tom and Laura turned to Koinonia “to hear the stories of other parents and gay people,” said Tom.

Deacon Bill Cobbett who, with his wife Sylvia, were diocesan liaisons to the group for about five years, told the Catholic, “society has moved on from where it once was, but there are still lots of areas where gay people feel discriminated against, and the church is one of them. They feel marginalized because they don’t feel comfortable to reveal who they are.”

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: catholic; catholicism; catholics; homosexualagenda; homosexuality; homsexuals; religiousleft

1 posted on 08/10/2008 3:23:23 PM PDT by kellynla
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To: Salvation; NYer; narses; A.A. Cunningham

ping


2 posted on 08/10/2008 3:23:49 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla
"Where are Catholics to go to deepen their understanding of the 'gay community'?"

Barf.
3 posted on 08/10/2008 3:29:15 PM PDT by Outland (Liberalism is a mental disorder. Socialism is a deep psychosis. Communism is brain cancer.)
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To: kellynla

Who cares? Why does anyone need to understand their sexual lifestyle? It is something they can just as well keep private. No one cares till they are marching in the streets and forcing their way into public schools to corrupt the minds of the young and trying to legislate acceptance of their sexual behavior into law. All they are doing is pushing those who would otherwise leave them alone into active opposition. If they do not stop they will find some day all the tolerance they have won swept away.


4 posted on 08/10/2008 3:35:14 PM PDT by Maelstorm (Russians in Georgia? Wait a sec and let me get my gun.)
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To: kellynla

Gag!


5 posted on 08/10/2008 3:37:48 PM PDT by Atchafalaya
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To: kellynla
Where are Catholics to go to deepen their understanding of the "gay community"?

How about instead, where are Catholics to go to deepen their understanding of the Word of God and the teachings of the Church? There, that's better.

6 posted on 08/10/2008 3:43:16 PM PDT by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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To: kellynla
Where are Catholics to go to deepen their understanding of the “gay community”?

Genesis 19 is pretty much the ideal biblical model for a 'gay community'.

7 posted on 08/10/2008 3:45:07 PM PDT by tbpiper (NObama '08 - Unfit in any color)
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To: Outland

“”Where are Catholics to go to deepen their understanding of the ‘gay community’?”

Barf. “

dangit ! I came in here to say that ! ( well, I was gonna say puke. . .but close enough)


8 posted on 08/10/2008 3:47:55 PM PDT by stompk
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To: Maelstorm

Hopefully sooner rather than later.


9 posted on 08/10/2008 3:49:56 PM PDT by darkangel82 (If you're not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. (Say no to RINOs))
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To: kellynla
Where can the “gay community” find spiritual support?

Hopefully, not in any Christian Church!

10 posted on 08/10/2008 3:52:19 PM PDT by sirchtruth (Vote Conservative Repuplican!!)
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To: kellynla

“Deepen their understanding of the gay community.”

Chuckle....


11 posted on 08/10/2008 3:56:26 PM PDT by Porterville (would you rather live in today's britain or yesterday's CCCP?)
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To: sirchtruth

“Where can the “gay community” find spiritual support?”

they might try Mark, “Repent and believe for the Kingdom of God is near.” Emphasis on “Repent.”


12 posted on 08/10/2008 4:57:17 PM PDT by elpadre (nation)
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To: Maelstorm
Dead On!

Also, attacking, vilifying, and insistence on acceptance for themselves and most of all their behavior, in Churches, where is adamantly forbidden, is doing more than all their other activisms combined! Even the questions they pose in this article are ludicrous! These activists are simply a group of overgrown adolescents who refuse to accept reality. While the rest of us, except liberals, know better. Reality will bite you if you do not face it, sooner or later.

13 posted on 08/10/2008 5:37:21 PM PDT by gidget7 (Duncan Hunter-Valley Forge Republican!)
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To: tbpiper

Terrific response piper!


14 posted on 08/10/2008 5:38:12 PM PDT by gidget7 (Duncan Hunter-Valley Forge Republican!)
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To: sirchtruth

Homosexual acts are acts of grave depravity, and are contrary to natural law. Under no circumstances can they be approved. However, many men and women do not choose their homosexual condition; for most of them it is a trial. Unjust discrimination must be avoided. These people are called to fulfill God’s will in their lives and, if they are Christians, to unite to the sacrifice of the Lord’s Cross the difficulties they may encounter from their condition. Basically they are called to chastity.


15 posted on 08/10/2008 5:44:42 PM PDT by olezip
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To: kellynla
If a person claims to be 'gay' or not, as long as they're celibate, what's the difference? Who cares? No one.

The "problem" arises when a 'gay' person decides to "act out" that 'gayness.'

An example of a similar "problem" occurs when a 'heterosexual' woman decides to act out her desire for sexual pleasure by dressing in skimpy clothing (usually red) and standing on a street corner with a 'come hither' look in her eyes.

So now, where are Catholics to go to deepen their understanding of the “promiscuous heterosexual (prostitute) community”? Where can the “promiscuous heterosexual (prostitute) community” find spiritual support?

Looks ridiculous when you state it that way, doesn't it? It's the PROMISCUITY of the heterosexual or the homosexual that causes the problem. Celibacy and Abstinence. The only two ways that work.

And you don't need any special kind of community if you're celibate and abstinent.

16 posted on 08/10/2008 6:37:17 PM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (I'm voting for J.S.McCain because he is a U.S. Citizen!)
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To: olezip

Have you ever fornicated? Yes or no.


17 posted on 08/10/2008 7:48:04 PM PDT by Misterioso
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To: Misterioso
Have you ever fornicated?

We ALL are sinners of one kind or another. The difference is in being proud of and demanding that others celebrate that sin, as opposed to recognizing it as a sin and trying to overcome it.

What's next, a "Catholic" support group promoting "understanding" and acceptance of adultery?

18 posted on 08/10/2008 8:25:58 PM PDT by informavoracious (Drill Here, Drill Now!)
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To: kellynla
Official opinion of the Catholic Church:

 
enter the Table of Contents of the Catechism of the Catholic Church here
URL: http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/para/2357.htm
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Modified: 2004-10-08 17:06:04
Title: CCC Search Result - Paragraph # 2357
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Body: 7 Homosexuality refers to relations between men or between women who experience an exclusive or predominant sexual attraction toward persons of the same sex. It has taken a great variety of forms through the centuries and in different cultures. Its psychological genesis remains largely unexplained. Basing itself on Sacred Scripture, which presents homosexual acts as acts of grave depravity, tradition has always declared that "homosexual acts are intrinsically disordered." They are contrary to the natural law. They close the sexual act to the gift of life. They do not proceed from a genuine affective and sexual complementarity. Under no circumstances can they be approved

19 posted on 08/10/2008 8:34:46 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: informavoracious

Was that a Yes?


20 posted on 08/10/2008 9:13:30 PM PDT by Misterioso
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To: olezip
However, many men and women do not choose their homosexual condition; for most of them it is a trial.

Let me make sure I understand this statement before I lambaste the living daylights out of it because of what I think you're saying.

Are you saying homosexuals are born with it, or it's in their genes? Homosexuals don't chose their "condition, it chooses them?

21 posted on 08/11/2008 4:54:27 AM PDT by sirchtruth (Vote Conservative Repuplican!!)
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To: sirchtruth
Are you saying homosexuals are born with it, or it's in their genes? Homosexuals don't chose their "condition, it chooses them?

If you review the evidence for and against the "gene" issue, you will find that it is inconclusive. To me, saying that homosexuals do not choose their condition, is being polite, is giving them the benefit of the doubt. Because if they choose their condition, then they are choosing to sin. Christians have free will and thus can choose to, or choose not to, sin. We also have free will to rationalize our actions, "the devil made me do it!" for example.

We also have free will to ask for forgiveness, and to try to sin no more. We can do this over and over again, depending upon the strength of our will, and the how sincere we are in our quest for repentance.

22 posted on 08/11/2008 5:35:57 AM PDT by olezip
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To: olezip
If you review the evidence for and against the "gene" issue, you will find that it is inconclusive.

Right, which means it's not fact. Giving gays the benefit of the doubt on the issue is deceiving them! So you're saying lie about their condition, so you can be polite?

Homosexuals chose depravity. Sugarcoating it by let them think homosexuality is a "condition" when it's not is not polite, it's deception. Are you under the impression that BJ's aren't really sex either as Bill Clinton and his cohorts tried to say?

Do you see the convolution in your theory? I do consider your post to be highly intellegent and informed, but you can not put sinful issues in a box and wrap them up pretty and present them as whole. The issue does not change just because you conceed selfish theory.

The most important aspect of this issue is truth, you must deliver it and hope some will be wise enough to grasp it.

23 posted on 08/11/2008 3:45:04 PM PDT by sirchtruth (Vote Conservative Repuplican!!)
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