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USA: Texas execution violates international law
Amnesty.ORG ^ | 08 August 2008 | Amnesty.ORG

Posted on 08/10/2008 8:13:47 PM PDT by davidosborne

The execution of José Ernesto Medellín Rojas by the state of Texas is a violation of international law, said Amnesty International today. "It undermines the authority of the International Court of Justice (ICJ) which had ruled in favour of a stay of execution."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnestyinternational; icj; immigrantlist; immigration; internationalcourt; spartansixdelta; ussupremecourt; worldcourt
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If you are not familiar with this case ---- I see this as a HUGE VICTORY for State's Rights --- The so-called "INTERNATIONAL COURT OF JUSTICE" has NO enforcement authority over U.S. States !!!

HOOOOO RAH !!!

COMMENTS PLEASE !!

1 posted on 08/10/2008 8:13:47 PM PDT by davidosborne
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To: davidosborne

F*** the International Court.


2 posted on 08/10/2008 8:14:32 PM PDT by South40
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To: politicallyincarrect; /\XABN584; 3D-JOY; 5Madman; <1/1,000,000th%; 11B3; 1Peter2:16; ...

Pass it on for comments -— BIG NEWS — AND STATE RIGHTS VICTORY !! -— WAY TO GO TEXAS !!!


3 posted on 08/10/2008 8:16:15 PM PDT by davidosborne (http://DuncanHunter.meetup.com/1 - GrassRoots Organization(s) to elect Duncan Hunter)
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To: politicallyincarrect; /\XABN584; 3D-JOY; 5Madman; <1/1,000,000th%; 11B3; 1Peter2:16; ...

Pass it on for comments -— BIG NEWS — AND STATE RIGHTS VICTORY !! -— WAY TO GO TEXAS !!!

In a six - three decision (Justices Breyer, Souter and Ginsburg dissenting) the Supreme Court held that even though the ICJ’s Avena decision “constitutes an international law obligation on the part of the United States,” (emphasis in original) the President lacked the requisite authority to compel States to comply with it.


4 posted on 08/10/2008 8:16:30 PM PDT by davidosborne (http://DuncanHunter.meetup.com/1 - GrassRoots Organization(s) to elect Duncan Hunter)
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To: davidosborne

Amnesty International lost all its moral authority some time ago, besides which they are simply wrong in this case.


5 posted on 08/10/2008 8:17:10 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: davidosborne
Don't do the crime if you can't do the time....

The ICJ has NO jurisdiction here, and even if it did, Texas still has the last say....

Too bad, so sad....

NEXT!

6 posted on 08/10/2008 8:17:16 PM PDT by dirtbiker (The most important requirement to be a liberal is a single-digit IQ....)
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To: South40

F*** the International Court.

I second that motion!


7 posted on 08/10/2008 8:17:30 PM PDT by JoanOfArk
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To: South40
F*** the International Court.

Well stated.

8 posted on 08/10/2008 8:17:40 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: davidosborne
My Midnight Basketball Court Team has just ruled the INTERNATIONAL COURT OF JUSTICE null and void.
9 posted on 08/10/2008 8:18:05 PM PDT by Mark (Don't argue with my posts. I typed while under sniper fire..)
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To: South40

my sentiments exactly my FRiend !!


10 posted on 08/10/2008 8:18:11 PM PDT by davidosborne (http://DuncanHunter.meetup.com/1 - GrassRoots Organization(s) to elect Duncan Hunter)
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To: South40

** F*** the International Court. **

Could not have said it better, myself!
NO ARGUMENT HERE


11 posted on 08/10/2008 8:18:27 PM PDT by gwilhelm56 (I'll never vote for a LIBERAL ... even if they Do have an (R) after their name.)
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To: davidosborne

Remember the Supremes split 5-4 on this issue of executing Medellin. We were one liberal justice away from losing our sovereignty.


12 posted on 08/10/2008 8:18:32 PM PDT by Ciexyz
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To: davidosborne

And just who enforces “international law?” A bunch of metrosexual girlymen from Amnesty Int’l? The U.N.? ROTFL! Sorry boys. America is still a sovereign nation.


13 posted on 08/10/2008 8:18:45 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer ("I'm trying to save the planet!" - Nancy Pelosi ..........ROTFLMAO! What a dumbass!)
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To: davidosborne

More hypocrisy from Shamnesty International.


14 posted on 08/10/2008 8:20:07 PM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: dirtbiker
In a six - three decision (Justices Breyer, Souter and Ginsburg dissenting) the Supreme Court held that even though the ICJ's Avena decision "constitutes an international law obligation on the part of the United States," (emphasis in original) the President lacked the requisite authority to compel States to comply with it.

Would THIS DISSENT be grounds for IMPEACHMENT FOR THESE THREE IDIOTS?

Justices Breyer, Souter and Ginsburg dissenting

15 posted on 08/10/2008 8:21:07 PM PDT by davidosborne (http://DuncanHunter.meetup.com/1 - GrassRoots Organization(s) to elect Duncan Hunter)
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To: davidosborne
....obliviously, Texas didn't sign that (stupid / illegal) international treaty.....but, the Liberals still wish to cede all legal authority to their International Fiends.
16 posted on 08/10/2008 8:21:22 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (If you aren't "advancing" your arguments,your losing "the battle of Ideas"...libs,hates the facts 8^)
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To: davidosborne

I don’t remember anything about an International Court of Justice in the Constitution. I don’t remember voting for any of the judges. I don’t remember voting for the people who appointed them, either.

Oh, that’s right. NOBODY voted for any of those idiots, not even the citizens of Europe. They just proclaimed themselves our bosses, and told us to bow down to them!

No thanks.


17 posted on 08/10/2008 8:21:30 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: davidosborne; All
"The Court's own by-laws unambiguously specify that the Court has jurisdiction only when parties to a dispute grant it such jurisdiction."

The Case for Ignoring the World Court

18 posted on 08/10/2008 8:21:46 PM PDT by South40
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To: davidosborne
POPULAR SOVERINGTY

(hint: it was what the Civil War was all about)

19 posted on 08/10/2008 8:21:50 PM PDT by LukeL (Yasser Arafat: "I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize")
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To: davidosborne

Amnesty International hasn’t had any credibility for the last twenty to thirty years. The United States has been criticized by it over and over. I’d say it can go straight to hell, but they’ve been operating from there for at least twenty years.


20 posted on 08/10/2008 8:22:14 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (We're a non Soros non lefitst supporting maverick Gang of 2, who won't be voting for McCain.)
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To: davidosborne
The real war we wage is against the dissolution of the nation state in favor of world governance. International courts are just one way to expedite the process.Sorry to be so bold but if we cant convince the freedom loving people of the world why Locke is better than Rousseau or Marx then even our second amendment cant save US. The problem is we are fighting a propaganda machine of the likes nobody has ever imagined and we have very little influence in the formal education of our children. Our lone hope is that people will feel tyranny's grip before it becomes a stranglehold.
21 posted on 08/10/2008 8:22:39 PM PDT by Archon of the East (Universal Executive Power of the Law of Nature)
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To: davidosborne

“It undermines the authority of the International Court of Justice (ICJ) which had ruled in favour of a stay of execution.”

SO WHAT!!


22 posted on 08/10/2008 8:23:17 PM PDT by Old Seadog
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To: davidosborne
President Bush's hands are not exactly "clean" on this one either.... of course he did not take any "action" to enfoce his assertion...

On 28 February 2005, after the ICJ decision but before either referenced Supreme Court decision, President Bush declared

I have determined, pursuant to the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, that the United States will discharge its international obligations under the decision of the International Court of Justice in [Avena], by having State courts give effect to the decision in accordance with general principles of comity in cases filed by the 51 Mexican nationals addressed in that decision.

23 posted on 08/10/2008 8:24:08 PM PDT by davidosborne (http://DuncanHunter.meetup.com/1 - GrassRoots Organization(s) to elect Duncan Hunter)
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To: davidosborne
"It undermines the authority of the International Court of Justice (ICJ)

The ICJ undermines American authority.

24 posted on 08/10/2008 8:24:29 PM PDT by Brett66 (Where government advances, and it advances relentlessly , freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: davidosborne

My 2 cents I sent them:

Texas Justice,

Frankly we don’t give a rats ass what you think,we’re not under international law.


25 posted on 08/10/2008 8:25:09 PM PDT by silentreignofheroes (Old Dogs and Children,and Watermelon Wine.)
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To: South40
“F*** the International Court.”

And the horse they rode in on.

I feel sorry for Amnesty Int’l. I wonder what their stance is on abortion? I saw some great rhetoric there on right to life... I just want to know why criminals have it, and babies don't.

26 posted on 08/10/2008 8:25:09 PM PDT by Old Student (We have a name for the people who think indiscriminate killing is fine. They're called "The Bad Guys)
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To: davidosborne

The International Court of Justice does not have jurisdiction in the US!


27 posted on 08/10/2008 8:25:10 PM PDT by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: davidosborne

International courts have no authority over the US.


28 posted on 08/10/2008 8:25:22 PM PDT by ConservativeMind
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To: davidosborne
So .... I don't give a rats fu**ing ass for the World Court.

The Constitution is supreme ... not the whinny a** liberal socialist commie mantra that pervades Amnesty. org and several others. We live in the United States of America, not the United International World.
29 posted on 08/10/2008 8:25:36 PM PDT by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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To: davidosborne

Yep, Texas executed another one from Honduras [Heliberto Chi] the next night after Medellin who attempted the same approach in his appeal but it was also rejected by the SCOTUS....

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2058290/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2057220/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2057187/posts


30 posted on 08/10/2008 8:27:23 PM PDT by deport ( ----Cue Spooky Music---)
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To: Mark

Hey! It yer gonna name me in a post, ping me wouldja???


31 posted on 08/10/2008 8:27:45 PM PDT by null and void (Barack Obama - International Man of Mystery...)
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To: LiteKeeper

tell that to 4 of our U.S. SUPREMES !!


32 posted on 08/10/2008 8:28:02 PM PDT by davidosborne (http://DuncanHunter.meetup.com/1 - GrassRoots Organization(s) to elect Duncan Hunter)
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To: Old Student
I just want to know why criminals have it, and babies don't.

That's the question liberals just can't answer. They oppose the DP for the few sadistic muderers we put to death but they'll fight tooth & nail to defend their "right" to kill the innocent unborn.

Liberalism truely is a disease.

33 posted on 08/10/2008 8:28:22 PM PDT by South40
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To: davidosborne

I think President Bush was just stating that the law was being followed.

He already had a Texas ‘execution’ issue back when he was Governor.

He acted consistently in both cases.


34 posted on 08/10/2008 8:29:19 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: davidosborne

We started our own country a couple hundred years ago. We don’t have to answer to any self-proclaimed International Courts.


35 posted on 08/10/2008 8:30:11 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: davidosborne

World court pisses on victims, surprised?


36 posted on 08/10/2008 8:30:13 PM PDT by Waco
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To: null and void

Oh you are right, I was wrong. So SOOOOORY. But in my defense, read my tag line.


37 posted on 08/10/2008 8:30:57 PM PDT by Mark (Don't argue with my posts. I typed while under sniper fire..)
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To: davidosborne

Okay. Dig Medellín up and throw him back in his cell if that will make Amnesty International happy.


38 posted on 08/10/2008 8:31:14 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: davidosborne

I only care about American law. Anything else and I hope nukes drop.


39 posted on 08/10/2008 8:31:17 PM PDT by Porterville (would you rather live in today's britain or yesterday's CCCP?)
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To: UCANSEE2

you might be right... I have read some articles that suggest the execution was in defiance of a “request” by President Bush.. who admitedly stated that he has no authority to compel the State to comply his request... I could not find a good source for that statement though... anyone know anything about that “request” ??


40 posted on 08/10/2008 8:32:53 PM PDT by davidosborne (http://DuncanHunter.meetup.com/1 - GrassRoots Organization(s) to elect Duncan Hunter)
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To: davidosborne

SHAMNASTY IRRATIONAL, please go to Georgia and tell the Russians they’re violating International Law.

I will wait here for you.


41 posted on 08/10/2008 8:33:50 PM PDT by Alouette (Vicious Babushka)
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To: davidosborne

I advise illegall alien killers and rapists to stay at home. This SOB has been tried and found guilty in a state of the USA. Hell, Oklahoma or Rhode Island can’t say anything. I’ll be damned if across the pond gets any time on the matter.


42 posted on 08/10/2008 8:34:06 PM PDT by eyedigress
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To: Mark
*grumble* *grumble* *grumble*

*sigh*

Okay.

THIS time...

43 posted on 08/10/2008 8:34:36 PM PDT by null and void (Barack Obama - International Man of Mystery...)
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To: davidosborne

Amnesty international is wrong.

First the world court ruled on the basis of a treaty that the US Congress never ratified that would have given Mexican illegals additional rights over Americans in the form of a “miranda” type right that would have freed these criminals and murderers because they were not told that they could talk to their consulate.


44 posted on 08/10/2008 8:34:43 PM PDT by usmcobra (I sing Karaoke the way it was meant to be sung, drunk, badly and in Japanese)
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To: davidosborne

Justice was done...


45 posted on 08/10/2008 8:35:31 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: davidosborne
The execution of José Ernesto Medellín Rojas by the state of Texas is a violation of international law, said Amnesty International today.

there is no higher law than the constitution of the United States, which enumerates State's rights in matters involving execution. What are they going to do, send in "international troops"?

46 posted on 08/10/2008 8:35:35 PM PDT by meyer (...by any means necessary.)
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To: DoughtyOne; davidosborne; Cicero
"If you kill somebody in Texas, we kill you back!

"We even put-in an express-lane for you really-dirty bastards!"

credits to Tater-salad --- Ron White ................. FRegards

47 posted on 08/10/2008 8:36:12 PM PDT by gonzo ("Shall Not Be Infringed" - use it now! While you still can ... FRegards)
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To: Alouette

LOL


48 posted on 08/10/2008 8:36:49 PM PDT by davidosborne (http://DuncanHunter.meetup.com/1 - GrassRoots Organization(s) to elect Duncan Hunter)
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To: Tennessee Nana

:)


49 posted on 08/10/2008 8:38:06 PM PDT by davidosborne (http://DuncanHunter.meetup.com/1 - GrassRoots Organization(s) to elect Duncan Hunter)
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To: davidosborne
Just what are Amnesty International and the International Court of Justice saying about what the Russians are doing in Georgia. If they are keeping silent then they have no moral authority.
50 posted on 08/10/2008 8:38:54 PM PDT by fella (.He that followeth after vain persons shall have poverty enough." Pv.28:19')
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