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Wind Power Is Just a Lot of Hot Air
Right Side News ^ | August 8, 2008 | Vincent Gioia

Posted on 08/11/2008 6:22:31 AM PDT by kellynla

At first glance, the energy proposals of Texas oilman T. Boone Pickens for wind power and increased gas usage sound good. "We can't drill our way out of this crises"; I happen to disagree with this statement. We still need to drill to make ourselves "independent from foreign oil."

But the real issue is what is behind the clamor to expand wind power in lieu of increasing oil drilling. To understand this you have to read between the lines.

Not only does Pickens' firm, BP capital, have significant investments in natural gas, but last June he announced plans to build the world's largest wind farm in west Texas, capable of producing 4,000 megawatts of electricity.

The federal government subsidizes wind farm operators with a tax credit worth 1.9 cents per kilowatt hour - potentially making for a tidy annual taxpayer gift to Pickens based on his anticipated capacity. But Pickens and wind power investors have a problem: since congress didn't renew the wind subsidy as part of the 2007 energy bill, it will expire at the end of this year unless reauthorized. Government subsidies the most important aspect for wind power usage and expansion; without them, wind can't compete against fossil fuel-generated power.

As pointed out by the Atlanta Journal-Constitution on July 9, "In 1999, 2001 and 2003, when Congress temporarily killed the credits, the number of new turbines dropped dramatically."

President Bush and Senator McCain have both called for renewed offshore oil and gas drilling. With gasoline prices around $4 per gallon, something needs to be done. However why is there opposition to offshore wind development? The Wall Street Journal notes that although there is no formal moratorium against offshore wind power, environmentalist and NIMBY opposition has stalled every sea-based wind project proposed in the U.S. thus far.

(Excerpt) Read more at rightsidenews.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: boonepickens; energy; enviroprofiteering; taxes; tboonepickens; windenergy; windfarms; windpower; youpayforthis
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"If wind energy were a sensible economic investment, it would not need federal and state subsidies already in place or the additional subsidies inherently needed in the wind power expansion directly and inferentially sought after by Pickens."
1 posted on 08/11/2008 6:22:32 AM PDT by kellynla
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To: kellynla

T. Boone is just an old oil salesman.

Now he’s trying to sell wind power.

It doesn’t mean it’s not feasible.

It just means it’s T. Boone Pickens.


2 posted on 08/11/2008 6:29:08 AM PDT by RexBeach ("Americans never quit!" Douglas MacArthur)
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To: kellynla

Blasphemy !!!!


3 posted on 08/11/2008 6:35:58 AM PDT by driftdiver (No More Obama - The corruption hasn’t changed despite all our hopes.)
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To: RexBeach

BTTT


4 posted on 08/11/2008 6:42:13 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: kellynla
T. Bone Pickens is drilling for dough. The tax payers dough.

T. Bone, GE, and Congress will make billions, all from guess who?

5 posted on 08/11/2008 6:42:31 AM PDT by G.Mason (Duty, Honor, Country)
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To: kellynla

....concerning wind power......

why couldn’t every home have a wind mill in their yard to produce their own power????? seems to me that if I were to have a wind mill here, the power it would produce could run my home with ease.....anyone else agree/disagree?


6 posted on 08/11/2008 6:43:35 AM PDT by HarleyLady27 (Rush thread tribal name: Mistress of Chief Gatekeeper.)
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To: kellynla

If wind power were so terrific the aircraft carriers would still be using sails.


7 posted on 08/11/2008 6:47:28 AM PDT by relictele
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To: kellynla
Pickens, and his cohorts Buffet-line and Sore-a$$ have their shorts in place with crude. t-Bone’s windmills may well be smoke n mirrors, like a bluff in poker,
8 posted on 08/11/2008 6:47:35 AM PDT by kcm.org (Conservatives bashing Sen. McCain has Ronald Reagan spinning in his grave!!!)
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To: kellynla

As is always the case with T. Boone, “Follow the Money!”.


9 posted on 08/11/2008 6:48:44 AM PDT by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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To: kellynla

ole T-Bone is trying to use whatever credibility he has (funny how oilmen are fiends when they are republicans, but saints when esposing left wing ideas?) to focus attention upon what is nothing more than his own financial agenda.

he’s self serving, and no better then a used car salesman.


10 posted on 08/11/2008 6:49:37 AM PDT by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: RexBeach

I actually believe T. Boone. I think he has financially positioned himself to where the plan will work. The goal to use natural gas to replace our oil usage in autos could be workable.


11 posted on 08/11/2008 6:50:54 AM PDT by cornfedcowboy
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To: HarleyLady27

Wind power just doesn’t work everywhere...just as solar doesn’t work everywhere...I know in Southern Cali, the breeze at my house wouldn’t fill a balloon. LOL
Now, solar is another issue, and my next house will have a solar roof!

For the TRILLIONS of taxpayer dollars that Pickens wants for transmission lines to produce at best 2% of our energy needs, NUCLEAR is a heck of a lot better energy source!


12 posted on 08/11/2008 6:51:11 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: HarleyLady27

Sometimes the wind doesn’t blow. Just a thought since you will have to pay for backup of some sort.


13 posted on 08/11/2008 6:51:18 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot ((Hallmarks of Liberalism: Ingratitude and Envy))
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To: cornfedcowboy

Pickens is just trying to get govenment funding(our tax dollars) for transmission lines and the cost is HUGE especially for the miniscule R.O.I.
We’re talking TRILLIONS for, at best, 2% of our energy needs.


14 posted on 08/11/2008 6:54:40 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla
In addition to wind, solar, nuclear, has anyone seen anything on "wave farms"? Here is a quick overview posting from Wiki

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wave_power

The basic idea of course is that the waves will always be there and can be used to power turbines. Apparently hurricanes are not an issue because the turbines are just below the surface. I've no idea if they are a danger to dolphins.

15 posted on 08/11/2008 6:54:52 AM PDT by SoftballMominVA
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To: HarleyLady27

“why couldn’t every home have a wind mill in their yard to produce their own power?’

Seems to me you can’t allow that. That number of windmills would obviously have an effect on the weather patterns and cause an drastic escalation of global warming.

:)


16 posted on 08/11/2008 6:55:56 AM PDT by driftdiver (No More Obama - The corruption hasn’t changed despite all our hopes.)
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To: HarleyLady27

Does the wind blow 24 hours a day every day? If not, you need a backup source of power. Some systems are combining wind with solar as the backup, but these arrays are still more costly than just hooking up to the electric grid. Personally I’d love to be off the grid with wind and solar but it’s just not economically feasible yet.


17 posted on 08/11/2008 6:56:11 AM PDT by Argus (Obama: All turban and no goats.)
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To: kellynla

1.9 cents per kWh is $19 per MWh, times 4000 MW capacity is $76,000 per hour if there’s enough wind to get to capacity.


18 posted on 08/11/2008 6:56:35 AM PDT by Steely Tom (Without the second, the rest are just politicians' BS.)
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To: HarleyLady27
...why couldn’t every home have a wind mill in their yard to produce their own power?????

But they're ugly, and they chop up the poor little birdies... < /greenie whacko >

19 posted on 08/11/2008 6:57:52 AM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: Neoliberalnot

Picken’s has got big investments in natural gas. Natural gas turbines are the flexible backup for wind turbines. Every wind turbine needs to be backed up by a flexible power source since they aren’t there when you need them the most..hot summer days.
We need to replace the natural gas power generation with nuclear. It runs all the time.
Picken’s wants to make sure that he gets his subsidies extended and then help with the extra transmission lines.
Then the utilities don’t care about the cost of wind power..they will just roll it into their rate base and you will pay. Plus pay for the subsidies. It is all about money nothing else.


20 posted on 08/11/2008 6:59:06 AM PDT by Oldexpat (Drill Here, Drill There..we must drill everywhere.)
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