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Throwing money at HIV has left many men at grave risk (solution: give gay lobby more money)
Canberra Times ^ | August 6, 2008

Posted on 08/11/2008 9:19:13 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts

Throwing money at HIV has left many men at grave risk

August 6, 2008

AS GOVERNMENTS around the world directed billions of dollars at programs that aimed to prevent HIV among general populations, a giant wave of infections moved like a tsunami through communities of gay men in Asia, Africa and Latin America, new figures show.

Men who have sex with men are now nearly 20 times more likely to be infected with HIV than the general population, yet they often receive as little as 1 per cent of global funding...

(Excerpt) Read more at canberratimes.com.au ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: aids; geopolitics; govwatch; grids; hiv; homosexualagenda; homosexuallinks; obama; prolife

If you would like to be added to the RETHINKING AIDS PING LIST drop me a FReepmail.

AIDS is the biggest public health scam in medical history. Like global warming, AIDS is being used to push a powerful leftist political agenda. For over two decades the Public Health Establishment has used your tax dollars and the full power of the federal government to wage a massive propaganda (and intimidation) campaign designed to:

(A) prevent the American public from hearing the scientific evidence that suggests HIV may not cause AIDS
(B) scare the public into thinking "we are all at risk"
(C) coverup the extreme toxicity of AIDS chemotherapy drugs (which are not just used on "fast-track" gays and junkies, but also given to pregnant mothers, infants, and children)
(D)
use this fear to push a leftist social agenda that includes socialized medicine, and the promotion of homosexuality and explicit sex "education" to tender-aged school children
(E)
use their "public health mandate" to bypass the authority of parents and local school boards who object to their social engineering schemes
(F) create a massive federal bureaucracy encouraging the use of addictive drugs, to include prescription heroine
(G) use threats and intimidation to silence dissenting scientists and to keep the press from covering the debate
(H) and finally, to use AIDS as a model to push similar social agendas with respect to future epidemics.

Every single point above can be documented on my profile page.

If you would like to be added to the RETHINKING AIDS PING LIST drop me a FReepmail.


1 posted on 08/11/2008 9:19:13 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts
there is a cure for AIDS in gay men - abstinence.
2 posted on 08/11/2008 9:21:17 AM PDT by tioga
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To: Stentor; Marty; Fractal Trader; metmom; John Valentine; editor-surveyor; Mr Ramsbotham; Chode; ...
 

For more on how AIDS is being used to push the homosexual/sex ed/population control agenda, read this.

3 posted on 08/11/2008 9:22:29 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

advice to high risk groups:

Keep it zipped
Keep your mouth shut
avoid dirty needles
avoid bending over to pick up the soap

Simple. You chance of contracting HIV has just dropped to near zero.


4 posted on 08/11/2008 9:22:41 AM PDT by Vaquero (" an armed society is a polite society" Heinlein "MOLON LABE!" Leonidas of Sparta)
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To: GodGunsGuts

I have said for years — to friends and more than a few radio audiences — that the homosexual community wants the legal right to perform in public acts for which a heterosexual couple would — and should — be arrested for indecency. If you’ve ever seen the images of how the queers in Frisco and New Orleans behave during their periodic “celebrations” of their “deathstyle,” it has already happened there. The next two years will give the Nancy Pelosi crowd a chance to federalize their deathstyle.

I really don’t care HOW they got to where they are — recruited or via genetic predisposition — in their genitalia worship (and that’s what it is), I just don’t want them demonstrating their explicit sexual behavior in front of our kids and grandkids. ADULT homosexuals have the same right as the rest of us to do nearly whatever they wish IN THE BEDROOM, where it belongs.

Why do I call it a “deathstyle?” For over 20 years, my wife was a member of a well-known ladies chorus. One of their first directors was a gifted musician who also happened to be openly homosexual. He died a slow, agonizing death — at age 43 — of AIDS. How “gay” could THAT be? Most homosexuals — many of whom have as many as several hundred unprotected encounters a year — ARE dead at an early age of HIV infections which explains why there are so few OLD homosexuals. And even that “protection” ain’t. With even the condom manufacturers admitting to a 20% failure rate, it’s akin to playing Russian roulette with your willie.

Bill Clinton’s CDC released figures a few years ago reflecting that fully 85% of all AIDS/HIV cases are
1. Active, non-monogamous homosexuals, (the largest subset)
2. Heterosexuals and bisexuals who have had sex with group 1 and
3. IV drug abusers who share needles.
(Kinda gives new meaning to Romans 6:23, doesn’t it?)
The remaining 15% are those who have contracted AIDS via other, non-sexual/non-drug means SUCH AS TRANSFUSIONS OF TAINTED BLOOD (which one homosexual “leader” on the West Coast URGED his fellow homosexuals to CONTINUE to attempt to contaminate in order to involve the straight community in the push to increase federal funding for AIDS research).

What a guy — er — GAY!


5 posted on 08/11/2008 9:30:45 AM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: GodGunsGuts; All

Heard a report recently about how governments are using AIDS outreach programs in their countries to arrest and harrass prostitutes, gays, and other high risk populations. Specific example, outside a program for prostitutes, they were getting arrested as they left. This is really dumb, as many men who use these services also end up infecting their innocent wives and children.


6 posted on 08/11/2008 9:30:54 AM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: GodGunsGuts

“Throwing money at HIV has left many men at grave risk...”

Agreed.

The incredibly asymmetrical ratio of money per death spent on near wholly PREVENTABLE AIDS versus much more widespread diseases like cancer and heart disease, has undoubtedly left many of us heterosexual men at risk.

Thanks, fag fascists.


7 posted on 08/11/2008 9:34:53 AM PDT by EyeGuy
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To: Vaquero

Exactly.

I mean, how much could those signs that say PITA [pe-— in the a—] with the red slash thru it cost?


8 posted on 08/11/2008 9:36:01 AM PDT by Adder (typical bitter white person)
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To: GodGunsGuts

So the Media Mediocrities are beginning to admit that AIDS is for gays and we rubes and prudes in “flyover country” were right all along?


9 posted on 08/11/2008 9:39:03 AM PDT by flowerplough (Barack Obama will require you to work. He is going to demand that you shed your cynicism. -Michelle)
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To: Vaquero

“Simple. Your chance of contracting HIV has just dropped to near zero.”

Ah, but those things eliminate one of the strongest tools in the sodomite’s seduction arsenal: the promise of virtually unlimited promiscuity. The teen-age boy’s dream, and, until AIDS, the sodomite’s reality.

As we have seen, many sodomites will risk death rather than give up the Shangri La of anonymous unprotected sex with multiple partners. That might seem surprising, but we must reflect that this behavior is the signature symptom of the underlying problem: same-sex attraction disorder.

They’re not going to practice abstinence, or even restrict themselves to a few partners. They’re going to continue insisting on unlimited promiscuity, and demanding money from us to enable it.


10 posted on 08/11/2008 9:39:11 AM PDT by dsc
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To: flowerplough

==So the Media Mediocrities are beginning to admit that AIDS is for gays and we rubes and prudes in “flyover country” were right all along?

...and that you need to send the gay lobby much, much more of your tax money so they can continue to kill themselves while at the same time teaching your children about the gay lifestyle in school.


11 posted on 08/11/2008 9:41:13 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: dsc
They’re not going to practice abstinence, or even restrict themselves to a few partners. They’re going to continue insisting on unlimited promiscuity...

then let them die

12 posted on 08/11/2008 9:41:35 AM PDT by Vaquero (" an armed society is a polite society" Heinlein "MOLON LABE!" Leonidas of Sparta)
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To: Dick Bachert

“ADULT homosexuals have the same right as the rest of us to do nearly whatever they wish IN THE BEDROOM, where it belongs.”

That’s a moral judgment, and my judgment leads me to the opposite conclusion.


13 posted on 08/11/2008 9:42:39 AM PDT by dsc
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To: GodGunsGuts

See tagline


14 posted on 08/11/2008 9:45:42 AM PDT by devistate one four (H I V Homophobia Is Vindicated)
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To: Vaquero

“then let them die”

Hang on, I’m trying to think of an objection to that.

Hmph.

Okay, same-sex attraction disorder is precipitated by the trauma of a pre-adult seduction or molestation. The desire to practice sodomy is a symptom of SSAD, and it is partially our fault that the person has developed this mental disorder, because we failed to protect him in childhood and/or adolescence.

We have an absolute duty to protect the young from men who suffer from SSAD. We have a duty to prevent these pre-adult PITA situations. When we fail, and a young man develops SSAD, we have a duty to provide him treatment: this disorder is treatable and often curable.

We also have a duty to prevent this disorder from being presented to the young as a good thing.


15 posted on 08/11/2008 9:52:15 AM PDT by dsc
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To: dsc

You sound like a socialist.

what do you mean OUR fault Kimosabe.

we have a duty to catch, hog tie and castrate pedophiles. That is our duty. We are prevented from doing this.


16 posted on 08/11/2008 10:03:59 AM PDT by Vaquero (" an armed society is a polite society" Heinlein "MOLON LABE!" Leonidas of Sparta)
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To: GodGunsGuts
When I think about how many of my tax dollars will ultimately be taken away from me to combat this disease I'm sorry the US government ever invented AIDS in the first place.

< /jeremiahwright>

17 posted on 08/11/2008 10:09:34 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Vaquero

“You sound like a socialist.”

Not every imputation of responsibility is socialist.

“what do you mean OUR fault Kimosabe.”

I really didn’t do anything effective to oppose the sodomite activist agenda that has led to the excesses we see today. Did you?


18 posted on 08/11/2008 10:12:49 AM PDT by dsc
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To: dsc
I really didn’t do anything effective to oppose the sodomite activist agenda that has led to the excesses we see today. Did you?

If you do anything to oppose sodomite activism your 1st amendment rights are forthrightly suspended in favor of political correctness. Kind of like the whole hate crime BS thing where you can try someone twice for the same crime without that whole messy double jeopardy thing. This will not be solved in the current ‘polite society’ paradigm. Eventually enough of us will have to stick together and take back the country.

19 posted on 08/11/2008 10:20:02 AM PDT by Vaquero (" an armed society is a polite society" Heinlein "MOLON LABE!" Leonidas of Sparta)
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To: GodGunsGuts
As I have said for the last 15 years here, this is a leftist scam. Always has been. I don't even bother posting info anymore. HIV is a ubiquitous, harmless rerovirus. The HIV "test" is not a test of active, live antigenic virus but rather a silly antibody test merely indicating that one had a previous contact with the retrovirus, a contact that was overcome by your normal immune system and may have been even years or decades before.

Total baloney and the biggest waste of public money's ever thrown away by the gov't.

20 posted on 08/11/2008 10:20:07 AM PDT by Doc Savage ("Are you saying Jesus can't hit a curve ball? - Harris to Cerrano - Major League)
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To: GodGunsGuts
In most concentrated epidemics we shouldn't be spending too much money on the general population, who are at low risk.

"Globally, we have been a bit slow to realise that."

It was recognized early on. It was a deliberate choice to make the straights think they were at risk to increase funding for AIDS research.

OK, now the AIDS money is going to straights so they come clean (sorta). But, IT WAS NOT A MISTAKE THE WAY IT WAS PRESENTED, IT WAS A LIE

21 posted on 08/11/2008 10:24:59 AM PDT by chesley ( Ya can't make chick'n dumplin's outta chick'n feathers!!)
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To: dsc

The libertarian in me agrees with most of what you say.

BUT — and you just knew that was coming, right? — just as with measles, chicken pox, cholera, TB, etc. — society has a right to protect itself from infectious diseases by means of quarantines and other methods. As a boy, I was quarantined for a week with the measles so that I couldn’t infect others.

When morons like that idiot in SF URGES his gay pals to INTENTIONALLY CONTAMINATE the NATIONAL BLOOD SUPPLY, as the grandfather of 6 currently normal, healthy kids, I could take him out behind the barn and kill him myself without even thinking twice about it.

The spread of HIV will NOT be halted until those folks who carry it are, at the least, QUARANTINED.

And, on that general subject, the U.S. is now experiencing a surge in many diseases once either eradicated or under control HERE. Many of these outbreaks have been traced back to immigrants — mostly the ILLEGAL variety — who, thanks to our Bush, Clinton, Bush WIDE OPEN BORDERS have brought those microbes back here from their former homes.

And if you wonder why our healthcare system is virtually bankrupt or most of the rest of NATIVE BORN citizens cannot afford private healthcare, visit your local community hospital ER.


22 posted on 08/11/2008 10:27:35 AM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: Vaquero

“This will not be solved in the current ‘polite society’ paradigm.”

Maybe we should have acted much sooner.


23 posted on 08/11/2008 10:27:51 AM PDT by dsc
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To: Dick Bachert

The conservative in me agrees with all of what you say.


24 posted on 08/11/2008 10:29:00 AM PDT by dsc
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To: devistate one four

Nice...although, we may have a slight disagreement over what causes AIDS. See my profile page for more.

All the best—GGG


25 posted on 08/11/2008 11:01:40 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: Doc Savage

Are you on my Rethinking AIDS ping list. If not, we could really use someone like you in the threads. Hope you will at least think about it. See my profile page for more.

All the best—GGG


26 posted on 08/11/2008 11:02:40 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: Doc Savage

Are you on my Rethinking AIDS ping list. If not, we could really use someone like you in the threads. Hope you will at least think about it. See my profile page for more.

All the best—GGG


27 posted on 08/11/2008 11:02:40 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: chesley

See my profile page. If you agree that what I have posted there should be investigated, please consider joining the Rethinking AIDS ping list. All the best—GGG


28 posted on 08/11/2008 11:04:31 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: dsc

I agree. They do not seem to think like normal folks do.

I am no shrink but there seems to be something very wrong in their thought processes: its not that they have a “female brain” or any of that.
300, 400, 500 partners is a regular occurance. [Yes, they point to Wilt Chamberlin’s boast of 1,000 women but that is notable as the wild exception to a normal heterosexual relationship.]
It almost like a homsexual nymphomania.

Whatever it is, it ain’t right OR within normal parameters.


29 posted on 08/11/2008 12:02:48 PM PDT by Adder (typical bitter white person)
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To: Morgana
then a pyre...
31 posted on 08/11/2008 6:52:19 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - CTHULHU/NYARLATHOTEP'08 = Nothing LESS!!!)
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