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W.Va. offers licenses for those who fear 'beast'[Drivers License][Mark of the Beast]
AP ^ | 08 Aug 2008 | AP

Posted on 08/11/2008 11:40:28 AM PDT by BGHater

West Virginia started Friday keeping driver's license photos out of a computer database for members of a small religious group who believe digital storage is a "mark of the beast" that evokes biblical prophecy.

State Division of Motor Vehicles Commissioner Joseph Cicchirillo said the group of about 50 or 60 Christians, who are not affiliated with a particular church, contacted the agency two or three years ago to object to their pictures "being on a database that can be exchanged throughout the world or hacked into."

One of the group members is Phil Hudok, who made headlines in 1999 when he was fired as a Randolph County school teacher for refusing to require his students to wear bar-coded identification badges. Hudok was later reinstated after a circuit judge said the school board had made no attempt to accommodate his religious beliefs.

Hudok and other members of his group have said bar codes and digital storage of photos are a way of numbering people, which they liken to a warning in the Bible's book of Revelation about a "mark of the beast" indicating the arrival of the Antichrist.

To accommodate their beliefs, state officials decided to issue driver's licenses to the group members that are exactly like other West Virginia licenses except that the individual photos will be removed from the computer immediately after they are taken by a digital camera.

Instead of being stored digitally, an 8-by-11-inch hard copy of each picture will be printed out and kept in a file. All other information, including birth dates and driving records, will be in the computer system, Cicchirillo said.

Without this accommodation, group members wouldn't get their driver's licenses, which the commissioner said would hamper their ability to get everyday services from insurance coverage to check cashing.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; US: West Virginia
KEYWORDS: 666; beast; christians; drivers; licenses; privacy; prophecy; westvirginia

1 posted on 08/11/2008 11:40:28 AM PDT by BGHater
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To: BGHater

Nut Jobs.


2 posted on 08/11/2008 11:41:59 AM PDT by trumandogz ("He is erratic. He is hotheaded. He loses his temper and it worries me." Sen Cochran on McCain)
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To: BGHater

3 posted on 08/11/2008 11:42:51 AM PDT by Petronski (The God of Life will condemn the Chinese government. Laogai means GULAG.)
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To: BGHater

Believers are being portrayed as nut jobs...tough, we are still growing and believing.


4 posted on 08/11/2008 11:51:12 AM PDT by kcm.org (Conservatives bashing Sen. McCain has Ronald Reagan spinning in his grave!!!)
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To: BGHater

If you want your car to be “passed over” by the destroying angel , you must remove both license plates .


5 posted on 08/11/2008 11:56:14 AM PDT by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it , freedom has a flavor the protected will never know)
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To: trumandogz

Hopefully theses drivers licenses are clearly marked as being invalid as identification for boarding aircraft.


6 posted on 08/11/2008 12:01:40 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Drill Here. Drill Now. Pay Less.)
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To: kcm.org
Believers are being portrayed as nut jobs...tough, we are still growing and believing.

Every reputable survey of religion in America shows that the nonreligious are the fastest growing segment of the American population. Were it not for immigration, that figure would likely be higher.

7 posted on 08/11/2008 12:04:33 PM PDT by Clemenza (No Comment)
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To: kcm.org
How about the believers who do not want their driver's license picture taken without wearing their hijab?
9 posted on 08/11/2008 12:06:57 PM PDT by trumandogz ("He is erratic. He is hotheaded. He loses his temper and it worries me." Sen Cochran on McCain)
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To: Paleo Conservative

I would love to be able to assign the License Plate numbers to these people.


10 posted on 08/11/2008 12:08:25 PM PDT by trumandogz ("He is erratic. He is hotheaded. He loses his temper and it worries me." Sen Cochran on McCain)
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To: F15Eagle

Good teaching


11 posted on 08/11/2008 12:11:28 PM PDT by easternsky
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To: BGHater

NONSENSE
You allow this then you have to start making all sorts of exceptions for the Islamofacists and then any nut bag that belives aliens are tracking them etc.....


12 posted on 08/11/2008 12:16:20 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Got Freedom ? Thank a Veteran...... Want to keep Freedom? Don't vote Obama)
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To: trumandogz
I would love to be able to assign the License Plate numbers to these people.

There are 35,152 combinations of three alphabetical characters followed by 666 or 666 followed by three alphabetical characters.

13 posted on 08/11/2008 12:16:21 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Drill Here. Drill Now. Pay Less.)
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To: kcm.org

Believers are being portrayed as nut jobs...tough, we are still growing and believing.

Believers of what?
Growing? 50 or 60 people out of several billion?
Okay so these kooks don;t have a picture stored after getting a license. What happens when they are arrest for a crime? Go through a traffic control staion where it takes photos? Go through an airport security system or a dozen other daily places and activities?


15 posted on 08/11/2008 12:22:55 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Got Freedom ? Thank a Veteran...... Want to keep Freedom? Don't vote Obama)
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To: BGHater

“fear the Beast”

I thought we were finished with articles about Hillary.......


16 posted on 08/11/2008 12:34:11 PM PDT by Enchante (If oil was botox then Nancy Pelosi would have us drilling everywhere!!! (hat tip, STARWISE))
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To: F15Eagle
....No direct deposit, no utilities or rent paid, no food at the grocery store or the drive-thrue even (after cash is gone).....

Well I guess the screw balls will eventually die of starvation, Now isn't that just sweet.

17 posted on 08/11/2008 12:43:34 PM PDT by ReformedBeckite
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To: BGHater

Under the “equal protection” clauses probably in the VA State (or is it commonwealth) Constitution, VA can not do that for some and not make it available to all. And that’s what makes it interesting to me.

Some years ago we discovered that Quakers in Indiana are exempt from applying for marriage licenses. Quakers (actually, Society of Friends)are specifically named in the law. An Indiana Circuit Court judge told me in the Clerk’s office one day that that would actually mean ANYONE could cite that law, and because of the “equal protection” clause in the IN State Con., ANYONE who states a religious objection would be exempt.


18 posted on 08/11/2008 12:45:14 PM PDT by John Leland 1789
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To: Clemenza; kcm.org
Every reputable survey of religion in America shows that the nonreligious are the fastest growing segment of the American population.

I have no doubt that this is true and that the numbers of unbelievers will continue to grow.

Matthew 7:13 " "Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it."

20 posted on 08/11/2008 12:51:58 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall cause you to vote against the Democrats.)
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To: kcm.org
Believers are being portrayed as nut jobs...tough, we are still growing and believing.

What that a drivers license is the mark of the beast?,thats crazyness worthy of islam

21 posted on 08/11/2008 12:52:13 PM PDT by Charlespg (Peace= When we trod the ruins of Mecca and Medina under our infidel boots.)
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To: SECURE AMERICA
NONSENSE You allow this then you have to start making all sorts of exceptions

I would agree. I'd be curious as to where in the bible these folks get the idea that digital storage of pictures is the mark of the beast.

22 posted on 08/11/2008 12:55:12 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall cause you to vote against the Democrats.)
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To: F15Eagle

“But when it does come all the mocking will cease. God’s Word will come to pass; you can take that to the bank. We just don’t know exactly when.”


That is correct.


24 posted on 08/11/2008 12:56:46 PM PDT by John Leland 1789
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To: Wyzo; 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
668

The Neighbor of The Beast.

You should ping him if you are gonna talk about him...

25 posted on 08/11/2008 1:00:52 PM PDT by LearnsFromMistakes (No longer welcome in my own 'happy place'.)
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To: BGHater

Sheesh! Every retrobate and tinfoil-hatted bobo in WV is going to scream equal protection and demand their photos be removed as well. I can’t believe they are doing it so that these wierdos can cash their checks. I don’t know of too many reputable places that will cash checks without a photo ID, or are these people going to be allowed to claim civil rights violations? Another example of the Tyranny of the Minority and how unbridled political correctness is destroying us bit by bit. Next thing they’ll ban the use of the phrase “common sense” as it will hurt the feelings of those who don’t have it, like those involved in this stupidity.


27 posted on 08/11/2008 1:08:01 PM PDT by Dionysius (Jingoism is no vice.)
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To: Paleo Conservative

ALL driver’s licenses are invalid identification for boarding aircraft.

There are too many corrupt employees within the DMV selling legitimate IDs knowingly to people of middle easter origin who are ILLEGALLY in this country. Some cases have been prosecuted in Illinois and Tennessee.

The cards are compromised. We should be using passports. We were already checking driver’s licenses for domestic flights in 2001. Fat lot of good it did us.


28 posted on 08/11/2008 1:26:06 PM PDT by weegee (Hi there.)
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To: MEGoody
It has to do in part with the synching code that resembles the bar coding for 6. I think it is the first, middle, and end bar code sequence.


29 posted on 08/11/2008 1:28:05 PM PDT by weegee (Hi there.)
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To: BGHater; trumandogz
object to their pictures "being on a database that can be exchanged throughout the world or hacked into."

Given the rather low competency of the average govt employee, they may have a point.

30 posted on 08/11/2008 1:29:07 PM PDT by ikka
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To: F15Eagle
I know you and I would have many disagreements on scripture, but here's my take on the "mark of the beast".

If you are a Christian the Holy Spirit lives within you, you are owned by God. You have the mark of the Holy Spirit, Satan can not do anything about it, he can never mark you as one of his. The mark of the beast is an allegorical(I think that's the term) Figure of speech that readers of that century would of understand, and the number thing they would of understood too since they had meanings for certain numbers back then.

Masters of slaves would mark their slaves on their forehead or hand, What God was and is trying to say through John is that those that are a slaves of Satan or are sons of Satan will have (figuratively speaking) the mark of the beast, Satan. Satan can not mark those that are owned by God because God has sealed us.

What goods does it do to live by physical bread alone, you will still die eventually, but if you live by the living bread which only Jesus can give you, you will never die.

As far as any further arguing or discussion about what the Mark of the beast is, I'm not going to do it, it's not worth the time and effort.

31 posted on 08/11/2008 1:29:41 PM PDT by ReformedBeckite
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To: F15Eagle

Electronic currency is not safe either. Too much compromising of security by theives who hack databases stealing the access to 25,000 accounts at a time. From anywhere in the world.

If you use an ATM or have a bank card you are at risk. The mere act of HAVING an electronic account puts you at risk. And someone can even open a credit card account in your name and put your credit history at risk.

The government shrugs their shoulders and encourages millions more to steal identities to provide cheap labor pools for certain lobbying industries.


32 posted on 08/11/2008 1:30:46 PM PDT by weegee (Hi there.)
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To: weegee
It has to do in part with the synching code that resembles the bar coding for 6.

I don't know enough about digital storage of photos to know whether it is like bar coding or not. Nevertheless, it isn't putting the mark on their forehead or hand, so it would not seem to apply.

34 posted on 08/11/2008 1:41:44 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall cause you to vote against the Democrats.)
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To: ReformedBeckite
mark of the beast is an allegorical

Just wondering what other parts of the Bible you have decided are allegorical. Jesus' miracles? The virgin birth? Commandments not to murder or fornicate?

38 posted on 08/11/2008 1:56:23 PM PDT by mngran2
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To: F15Eagle

Hackers have hit the ATM databases for the machines you find in gas stations. They collect both pin and card number.

Any remote transaction requires the pin.

And falsified identification can still get a card to someone other than you.

The whole issue of forgery has been passed from government enforcement (against fake paper money) to the shoulders of the individual (who must now dispute the theft and say “it wasn’t me”).


39 posted on 08/11/2008 1:59:04 PM PDT by weegee (Hi there.)
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To: ReformedBeckite

Good gracious. The people in FR sound like the people in DU. Calling Bible believers nut jobs and kooks. Sad.


41 posted on 08/11/2008 2:48:40 PM PDT by beckysueb (Drill here! Drill now!)
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To: MEGoody

Its not exactly TMOtB but it is a way of tracking people and they believe they will be rounded up and forced to take the actual mark. I think the article gets this fact mixed up.


42 posted on 08/11/2008 2:51:50 PM PDT by beckysueb (Drill here! Drill now!)
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To: weegee
The left end synching code (Left Guard Bar) is 00000000000101. The center code is 01010. The Right Guard bar is 1010000000.

The UPC code for a 6 in the left half of the UPC is 0101111 and in the right half is 1010000 (the bit polarity is flipped.) code

Notice the 6's on the left half (white,black,white,black,black,black,black) do not resemble the guard codes.

666

In your graphic the "typical six" is black,white,black,white,white,white,white. The white spaces between the black lines are just as important and canot be dropped or else it isn't a 6. Notice, the left guard is followed by 3 whites (first three digits of code 0 - left side) the center is followed by 3 blacks (first 3 digits of code 0 - right side) and the right guard is followed by a white quiet zone at least 7 wide as part of the standard.

However, the only single decimal digit that will visually resemble the 101 and 01010 guard codes (white,black,white,black,white) is a six on the right hand side. I still think it's quite a stretch to say the synching codes are sixes since they aren't even considered numbers unless they are 7 bits wide and have correct polarity.

43 posted on 08/11/2008 3:23:48 PM PDT by HundredDollars
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To: LearnsFromMistakes; Wyzo

>> You should ping him if you are gonna talk about him...

>>> My sincerest apologies. I had no idea the Neighbor of The Beast was a Freeper.

You have no idea what you’ve been missing! ;)
(And it’s “her.”)

660 Approximate number of the Beast

DCLXVI Roman numeral of the Beast

666.0000 Number of the High Precision Beast

0.666 Number of the Millibeast

/ 666 Beast Common Denominator

(-666) ^ (1/2) Imaginary number of the Beast

6.66 e3 Floating point Beast

1010011010 Binary of the Beast

6, uh... what was that number again? Number of the Blonde Beast

1-666 Area code of the Beast

00666 Zip code of the Beast

666mph The speed limit of the Beast

$665.95 Retail price of the Beast

$699.25 Price of the Beast plus 5% state sales tax

$769.95 Price of the Beast with all accessories and replacement soul

$656.66 Walmart price of the Beast

$646.66 Next week’s Walmart price of the Beast

Phillips 666 Gasoline of the Beast

Route 666 Highway of the Beast

666 F Oven temperature for roast Beast

666k Retirement plan of the Beast

666 mg Recommended Minimum Daily Requirement of Beast

6.66 % 5 year CD interest rate at First Beast of Hell National Bank, $666 minimum deposit.

$666/hr Beast’s lawyer’s billing rate

Lotus 6-6-6 Spreadsheet of the Beast

Word 6.66 Word Processor of the Beast

i66686 CPU of the Beast

666i BMW of the Beast

DSM-666 (revised) Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of the Beast

668 Neighbor of the Beast


44 posted on 08/11/2008 4:42:21 PM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (My spiritual advisor is a lawyer.)
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To: trumandogz

Bait-taker.


45 posted on 08/11/2008 5:24:58 PM PDT by Mmmike
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To: F15Eagle
The computers aren't safe. These are prop boxes. Read up. Your financial data isn't secure.

And how many times have you read about some fool with a laptop who loses it or has it stolen putting tens of thousands of social security numbers at risk.

You put too much trust in the system. There are corrupt figures in government, in corporations, and incompetent figures in both places too (which provide hackers with easy targets).

46 posted on 08/12/2008 9:09:48 AM PDT by weegee (Hi there.)
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To: F15Eagle

“These areN’T prop boxes.”


47 posted on 08/12/2008 9:10:15 AM PDT by weegee (Hi there.)
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