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What Barack Obama defended three times: Live Birth Abortion
Monday, August 11, 2008

Posted on 08/11/2008 1:37:23 PM PDT by

It is well known by Pro-Lifers but not by the general public. The MSM has done everything to keep it that way. We must help get the fact out that Barack Obama strenuously defended the indefensible at least three times.

The procedure is frequently called “Live birth abortion” but it is not really an abortion at all:

“... doctors do not attempt to kill the baby in the uterus. The goal is simply to prematurely deliver a baby who dies during the birth process or soon afterward.” [1]

Obama… “refused as an Illinois state senator to support legislation to protect babies who survived late-term abortions because he did not want to concede — as he explained in a cold-blooded speech on the Illinois Senate floor — that these babies, fully outside their mothers’ wombs, with their hearts beating and lungs heaving, were in fact “persons.” [2]

“On the Illinois Senate floor, Obama was the only senator to speak against the baby-protecting bills.” [2]

Obama fought it for three years as a Illinois state senator, even after it passed 98-0 in the US Senate as the Born Alive Infants Protection Act. [3]

Barack Obama fought it even after NARAL “…released a statement that said, “Consistent with our position last year, NARAL does not oppose passage of the Born Alive Infants Protection Act.” [4]

Barack Obama goes way beyond “choice on abortion”. This is outright murder that he wanted paid for with our tax dollars. Voters must take into account just how radical Obama is when every democrat and even NARAL went against him. Voters must soberly consider where Obama wants to lead this Nation.

Obama has repeatedly proven that he does not respect the life of born children. How can we honestly expect him to respect ours.

Americans must know about his repeatedly horrendous public policy judgments. Perhaps then they will finally realize how wrong for America Barack Obama would be as president.

[1] Live Birth Abortions - Testimony of Jill Stanek

[2] Obama Is the Most Pro-Abortion Candidate Ever

[3] Born Alive Infants Protection Act.

[4] Obama More Pro-Choice Than NARAL - HUMAN EVENTS

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KEYWORDS: 2008; 2008election; abortion; bornalive; democrats; election; electionpresident; elections; infanticide; murder; nobama08; obama; obamarecord; obamatruthfile; prolife
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Potentially very imporant. If Obama is nominated [somehow surviving fake birth cert.], I’ll give this a good read. FRegards ....

21 posted on 08/11/2008 2:39:59 PM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March ("The internet needs a gatekeeper," The Cackling Comeback Witch aka Hillary Rod-ham [Clinton])
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Do as I did this morning, email this to EVERYONE you know. Christians, non-Christians, pro-lifers and pro-choicers alike. Even most Democrats would find this appalling.

22 posted on 08/11/2008 2:48:13 PM PDT by Anti-Hillary (Yo Barry, IF FOR 20 YEARS YOU STAY IN THE PEW, IT'S BECAUSE YOU SHARE THE VIEW!!!!!)
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This says it all:

"Abortion is a cancer that is literally killing America. It is killing our children while it is killing our consciences. It began when we took God out of our decision making and proclaimed that the little beings growing inside of women were "products of conception" and not little girls and little boys."

23 posted on 08/11/2008 3:16:28 PM PDT by Faith
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I know this post may be deleted, but I must say it.... Maybe, Obama is such a putz because he “survived” this God forsaken procedure.

24 posted on 08/11/2008 3:22:35 PM PDT by xc1427 (It's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees...Midnight Oil (Power and the Passion))
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To: TexasCajun

So tell me again why there’s a “pro-life” contingent on FR that refuses to stop Obambi by voting for McCain?

25 posted on 08/11/2008 3:30:16 PM PDT by fightinJAG (Rush was right when he said: "You NEVER win by losing.")
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To: Petronski
This PING's for you!

26 posted on 08/11/2008 3:33:08 PM PDT by (A Catholic Respect Life Curriculum is available FREE at
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To: TexasCajun
Barry can't explain his way out of THIS one.
27 posted on 08/11/2008 3:34:33 PM PDT by (A Catholic Respect Life Curriculum is available FREE at
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To: ExTexasRedhead

Well let’s get started!

28 posted on 08/11/2008 3:35:41 PM PDT by (A Catholic Respect Life Curriculum is available FREE at
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To: gathersnomoss
“Live birth abortions have nothing to do with Liberal voter turnout. It does not show up on their give-a-sh*t scale.”

Quite true. But it does with much of the middle undecideds who make elections.

29 posted on 08/11/2008 3:39:04 PM PDT by (A Catholic Respect Life Curriculum is available FREE at
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

OK Art. But please forward ASAP!

30 posted on 08/11/2008 3:42:04 PM PDT by (A Catholic Respect Life Curriculum is available FREE at
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Thanks Marvin!

This book exposes Obama on a range of Marxist Leftist positions. If people would read it they would reject him.

The Obama Nation: Leftist Politics and the Cult of Personality

31 posted on 08/11/2008 3:50:18 PM PDT by (A Catholic Respect Life Curriculum is available FREE at
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Thanks for ping.....Obama, a true leader for the Culture of Death.

32 posted on 08/11/2008 4:01:52 PM PDT by Gerish (Feed your faith and your doubts will starve to death.)
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To: xc1427
Obama is a putz because he was indoctrinated into Marxist Leftist putzism. He bought it, and he has made it his own, and he wants to force it on the rest if us.

Obama is The Marxist Messiah and Mayor of Putzville.

33 posted on 08/11/2008 4:05:16 PM PDT by (A Catholic Respect Life Curriculum is available FREE at
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To: reagan_fanatic

“To me, there’s not much difference between what Hitler did and what’s occurring today.”

Another smart man wrote a similar point:

In Memory and Identity: Conversations Between Millenniums Pope John Paul calls abortion a “legal extermination” and compares its institution with the German laws, which declared the Jews non-persons and allowed them to be murdered by the state. He wrote, “It was a legally elected parliament which allowed for the election of Hitler in Germany in the 1930s.”

John Paul wrote that abortion and legalized genocide are both the result of people usurping the “law of God” in the name of democracy. “We have to question the legal regulations that have been decided in the parliaments of present-day democracies.”

“The most direct association which comes to mind is the abortion laws. Parliaments which create and promulgate such laws must be aware that they are transgressing their powers and remain in open conflict with the law of God and the law of nature.”

In 2003, Rabbi Yehuda Levin wrote about a poster he saw in New York city that declared, “STOP The Silent Holocaust — 2,000,000 children destroyed by abortion in Israel.” The poster is part of a campaign sponsored by a Jewish/Israeli group, EFRAT-C.R.I.B, dedicated to stopping abortion in Israel. Source:

34 posted on 08/11/2008 4:13:19 PM PDT by (A Catholic Respect Life Curriculum is available FREE at
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“The greatest evil is not done in those sordid dens of evil that Dickens loved to paint but is conceived and ordered (moved, seconded, carried, and minuted) in clear, carpeted, warmed, well-lighted offices, by quiet men with white collars and cut fingernails and smooth-shaven cheeks who do not need toraise their voices.”
--C. S. Lewis

35 posted on 08/11/2008 4:19:26 PM PDT by (A Catholic Respect Life Curriculum is available FREE at
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Please tell me I misread the name of the hospital these two nurses worked at.

36 posted on 08/11/2008 4:31:03 PM PDT by EDINVA
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Disgusting, huh. There’s more:

Obama’s relevant interview: Lies on lies

Posted: July 09, 2008

A CNN reporter interviewing me a couple weeks ago about Barack Obama’s opposition as state senator to the Illinois Born Alive Infants Protection Act groaned more than once that this topic was “complicated.”

She was referring to Obama’s various explanations through the years for blocking Born Alive and lately his outright denial that obstructing legislation declaring live aborted babies legal persons had anything to do with endorsing their death.

I finally emailed her, “It is clear: Obama strongly opposed legislation to protect abortion survivors. This is horrible, so of course he will try to make it ‘complicated,’ but it is not.”

Obama has recently been ratcheting up the obfuscations, which I’ll get to momentarily.

Before that, a reader last week recommended I give pro-lifers uncomplicated talking points on Obama and Born Alive. Here they are:

The federal Born Alive Infants Protection Act passed unanimously in the U.S. Senate and overwhelmingly in the U.S. House. Sens. Kennedy and Boxer even spoke in support on the Senate floor. NARAL expressed neutrality.

Obama actively opposed nearly identical legislation in Illinois, the sole state senator to speak against Illinois’ Born Alive two years in a row.

In 2003, Obama single-handedly stopped identical legislation to the federal Born Alive Act from being introduced in the Illinois Senate as chairman of the committee vetting the bill.

That legislation finally passed in 2005 – the year after Obama left the Illinois Senate – refuting his claim it was unnecessary.

Overarching talking point:

Barack Obama is so radically pro-abortion he supports infanticide, as evidenced by his active opposition to the Illinois Born Alive Infants Protection Act. This makes him further left than any U.S. senator and even NARAL.

Stick to those points while for sport observing Obama recycle lies.

For instance, Obama may have set a new record in a July 1 Relevant magazine interview, rattling four excuses in one soundbite, all previously outlined in my January 2008 column, “Obama’s 10 reasons for supporting infanticide” – Nos. 1, 6, 7 and 10!

The other e-mail rumor that’s been floating around is that somehow I’m unwilling to see doctors offer life-saving care to children who were born as a result of an induced abortion. That’s just false. There was a bill that came up in Illinois that was called the “Born Alive” bill that purported to require life-saving treatment to such infants. And I did vote against that bill. The reason was that there was already a law in place in Illinois that stated you always have to supply life-saving treatment to any infant under any circumstances, and this bill actually was designed to overturn Roe v. Wade, so I didn’t think it was going to pass constitutional muster

Ever since that time, e-mails have been sent out suggesting that, somehow, I would be in favor of letting an infant die in a hospital because of this particular vote. That’s not a fair characterization, and that’s not an honest characterization. It defies common sense to think that a hospital wouldn’t provide life-saving treatment to an infant that was alive and had a chance of survival.

Even cursory thought on Obama’s statement would raise a fast red flag in an unstarstruck mind: If Born Alive were already codified in Illinois law, why did the Illinois General Assembly pass Born Alive into law the year after Obama left the state Senate?

What pants-on-fire Obama did was purposefully misrepresent Born Alive, using its name to describe the contents of another bill, as well as purposefully misrepresent Illinois abortion law.

Born Alive simply defined when personhood begins for the purpose of Illinois law. The World Health Organization created this definition in 1950, and the United Nations adopted it in 1955. Born Alive “required” nothing and was certainly not designed to overturn Roe, unless the UN and WHO divined 20+ years into the future while calculating for six degrees of separation.

Obama told Relevant it “defies common sense” that a hospital would let potentially viable babies die.

Why? If a hospital is purposefully inducing preterm labor for the express purpose of killing babies before or during delivery, it defies common sense to ignore the hospital’s clear conflict of interest if those babies survive.

A person not getting that is either stupid or on the take. And Obama’s not stupid.

Jill Stanek fought to stop “live-birth abortion” after witnessing one as a registered nurse at Christ Hospital in Oak Lawn, Ill. In 2002, President Bush asked Jill to attend his signing of the Born Alive Infants Protection Act. In January 2003, World Magazine named Jill one of the 30 most prominent pro-life leaders of the past 30 years. To learn more, visit Jill’s blog, Pro-life Pulse.

37 posted on 08/11/2008 4:54:17 PM PDT by (A Catholic Respect Life Curriculum is available FREE at
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One of my favorite CS Lewis quotes!

38 posted on 08/11/2008 5:33:14 PM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Global warming is to Revelations as the theory of evolution is to Genesis.)
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To: All

Bump for life, and please consider using your e-mail list to let as many people as possible know just how antilife Obama is.

39 posted on 08/11/2008 7:11:57 PM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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No Catholic can vote for Obama with a clear conscience!

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40 posted on 08/11/2008 8:22:55 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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