Posted on 08/11/2008 2:30:37 PM PDT by Zakeet
All 4 John Edward videos that were Produced by Reille Hunter
I dont even know what to think about all of this. You be the judge!
Edwards Webisode 1: Plane Truths
http://www.webcastr.com/videos/politics/edwards-webisode-1-plane-truths.html
John Edwards - Webisode 2
http://www.webcastr.com/videos/politics/john-edwards-missing-webisode.html
Missing Edwards Webisode 3 - Plight of Uganda
http://www.webcastr.com/videos/politics/missing-edwards-webisode-3-plight-of-uganda.html
Missing Edwards Webisode 4 - Plugs
http://www.webcastr.com/videos/politics/missing-edwards-webisode-4-plugs.html
I do hope this is fully investigated. It’s not “just about sex”.
You didn't run for President or Vice President either. So no one else would really care if you did (other than relatives, children, friends, etc.).
keep it a secret for the rest of your life
When it's all over the National Enquirer, there's no keeping it a secret any more. The doofus should have known that as a very public figure, there's no way he was going to get away with keeping it a secret. He put himself in the public eye by running for President, and then by making himself available for the Vice Presidency. He knows that opens up his entire life to scrutiny. He has no one to blame but himself, and no one should feign surprise or disgust that the affair was discovered and publicized. That's the way the world works, and anyone who thinks otherwise is very naive.
Yes, that is correct.
Repercussions from lying under oath in a court of law is considered a hit job?
The “hit job” was lying under oath. His law license was suspended and he had to pay a fine. He was impeached and should have been thrown out of office. It was not about sex.
If you remember correctly, Clinton was in the throes of a civil suit for having sexually harassed Paula Jones, a state employee, while Clinton was Governor. She allegedly was invited to be introduced to Clinton (by a state trooper) in his hotel room in connection with a state conference that was being hosted at a Little Rock hotel. After going to his hotel suite to meet Clinton, he allegedly exposed himself and asked her to perform oral sex on him (the same kind of sexual contact between Clinton & Monica). She claims to have been repulsed and left the room. Later, within the statute of limitations, she instituted the sexual harassment suit against him. Essentially, the allegations were that as a governor, Clinton has sexually harassed a subordinate state employee by exposing himself and soliciting oral sex.
While Jones’ suit for sexual harassment was pending, Clinton received oral sex from Monica. Clinton adamantly denied Jones’ allegations. Jones’ lawyers became aware of his being serviced by Monica and when they deposed Clinton regarding any other government employees with whom he had a sexual relationship, he denied it. Of course, if Clinton had been truthful regarding what had occurred between Monica and him, it would have been persuasive evidence that what Jones alleged Clinton had done to her actually happened. Clinton lied under oath (i.e. committed perjury) not because it was a private matter, but because it was going to save his bacon in a civil suit. Without proof of Monica, it would just be the word of some low-level, “trailer trash” (Carville’s description of Jones) state employee against the President of the US. However, having Monica out in the public would destroy Clinton's credibility and significantly bolster Jones’ claim. After knowing what Clinton did with Monica, do you really doubt that he propositioned Jones for the same kind of sexual contact?
Clinton perjured himself to protect himself from liability and public scorn rather than only trying to keep private his adultery.
Maybe in your world its okay for the President to perjure himself in a civil suit, but it isn't in mine. The integrity of the judicial process was bastardized by his conduct. Jones was entitled to have her case decided based upon the truth, not on Clinton's prevarication.
As far as Edwards in concerned, his conduct is relevant for several reasons. First, a prospective presidential or vice-presidential candidate needs to be properly vetted. Edwards could be subject to blackmail for his adultery. Second, when a public figure holds himself out to the public as a role model for awards such as “father of the year,” his private conduct as a husband and a father is relevant to the public for consideration as whether such public figure possesses the requisite moral character to qualify him to be elected to one of the highest offices in the land or to be appointed to a cabinet position.
I have no desire to air someone's weaknesses for political sport; however, there are legitimate reasons why both Clinton and Edwards conduct were and are relevant.
She's not a cougar because she's older than you. She's only a cougar if she preys on young men. And Edwards is not. I'm guessing they're about the same age; maybe she's a little younger.
Hmmmmm..... guess you aren't up on 19th century political campaigns from 1800 (Jefferson alleged to have slave mistress) to 1828 (pamphlet published describing Andrew Jackson's wife as er, rather indiscreet in her younger years -- supposedly said pamphlet broke her heart and contributed to her early death, or so Andrew Jackson himself believed) to 1884 when Grover Cleveland was alleged to have fathered a child out of wedlock (it was true, and he then owned up to it and still got himself elected). "The derisive phrase "Ma, Ma, where's my Pa?" rose as an unofficial campaign slogan for those who opposed [Cleveland]"(Wikipedia)
Hmmm. My husband of 42 years has never cheated on me, is he completely unique?
Pigeon is really this person’s first name?
Yes, that what escapes some people. It's not "just about sex", it's really not about sex at all. In Clinton's case it was lying under oath to a federal grand jury about a conspiracy to lie under oath about sex in order to avoid a money judgment in a civil suit filed against him by Paula Jones. It doesn't matter whether it's sex, gambling, drugs, or anything else, you lie to a grand jury, you encourage and bribe others to do so, and you are committing a very serious crime. How can that not be clear?
Sorry if you took offense. None was intended. I have encountered a few in the last half-dozen years, one very recently, and this man had no shame whatsoever; the others basically complete incompetents.
With regard to my painting with a tad wider brush than might seem appropriate, please accept my apology.
You may have forgotten your sarcasm tag. First, having sex with another why married is wrong. It violates an oath taken before God and family and friends and each other.
Secondly, this guy is a congenital liar. He lies and lies and lies.
The real biggie here is the fact that laws have probably been broken regarding the payoff and coverup. This cannot be ignored. Liberals believe laws are made for anyone other than themselves.
Okay, he probably didn't. Most men don't cheat on their wives, so no, he's not unique. A lot of men do slip up though and my belief is that most who do would deny it if asked publicly about it.
If you didn't care, why comment? Crawl back into your "I'm the only one that matters" hole and watch the world cave in around you!
Oh, the irony. Oh, the delicious irony! The first Webisode gem costing approximately $25K opens with Edwards speaking into the camera held by his girlfriend and saying: "I have personally come to the conclusion that I actually want the country to see who I am."
... ahhh, not really.
I’m glad I’m not your wife. I wouldn’t trust you at all.
Ironic that with this controversy over Edwards' adultery and lies, bill Clinton will be a main speaker at the convention.
Nope, TK, he never has.
There are some men who believe in fidelity and are faithful.
I am glad I am not your wife. I feel sorry for her. I also assume you won’t believe me, and I don’t really care. I feel sorry for you, too.
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